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'Why Believe in a God? Just be Good' Ads Set to Run Next Week On D.C. Buses
Fox News ^ | 11/11/2008 | Fox News/AP

Posted on 11/11/2008 6:05:05 PM PST by Gordon Greene

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To: elkfersupper
Actually, that is a good question.

Yeah right, And when you need medical help just go to the Atheist Hospital, or if you need food and shelter just turn to the Atheist Charities...

they do so much good in the world....

181 posted on 11/12/2008 7:10:22 PM PST by Wil H (No Accomplishments, No Experience, No Resume, No Records, No References, Nobama..)
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To: elkfersupper
Do you have an answer?
I surely do not. You?

Atheist have a problem with morality in general and 'goodness' in this particular case. In the first case, there is no amount of reasoning that they can do to lead them to conclued that should not be amoral. Pragmatism, yes, but reasoning no.

As far as being 'good', how does one know what 'good' is? Atheist have no fixed, i.e. absolute, standard by which to judge their actions. Everything becomes relative and 'good' loses its meaning.

So, to answer the question; 'Why Believe in a God? Just be Good', I would say "Because without God, there is no 'good'."

182 posted on 11/13/2008 4:18:15 PM PST by tbpiper (Now irate and tireless, but mostly irate.)
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To: Wil H
when you need medical help just go to the Atheist Hospital, or if you need food and shelter just turn to the Atheist Charities...

In such circumstances, I think I would like the concentration to be on saving my body rather than on saving my soul.

183 posted on 11/13/2008 6:41:19 PM PST by elkfersupper
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To: tbpiper
"Because without God, there is no 'good'."

Which of the thousands of gods perceived by man since man had perception and the hundreds of gods worshipped by man today would that be?

184 posted on 11/13/2008 6:46:32 PM PST by elkfersupper
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To: Gordon Greene
Just be good for goodness' sake,

"Why do you call me good?" Jesus answered. "No one is good-except God alone."

When someone asks you to be "good". They are asking the impossible from you. You can do some good. You can even do a lot of good. But you can not BE good.

You are only human. And humans by their very nature are flawed.

185 posted on 11/13/2008 6:49:38 PM PST by Harmless Teddy Bear (Faith Manages)
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To: Harmless Teddy Bear

“You are only human. And humans by their very nature are flawed.”

Uh-huh... but to some folks truth is ever elusive. They live under the pretense we are all born sinless and are only corrupted by the world, when the Word is clear we are born in sin.


186 posted on 11/13/2008 7:34:10 PM PST by Gordon Greene (www.fracturedrepublic.com - Me... I'm ignorant but I do know this; God is our only hope!)
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To: elkfersupper; Wil H

“Mark 8:36 (New International Version)

36What good is it for a man to gain the whole world, yet forfeit his soul?

You only live twice and the second time is forever!


187 posted on 11/13/2008 7:40:48 PM PST by Gordon Greene (www.fracturedrepublic.com - Me... I'm ignorant but I do know this; God is our only hope!)
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To: Gordon Greene
Interesting.

I look forward to conversing with someone who has lived twice.

188 posted on 11/13/2008 7:55:04 PM PST by elkfersupper
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To: tbpiper
As far as being 'good', how does one know what 'good' is? Atheist have no fixed, i.e. absolute, standard by which to judge their actions. Everything becomes relative and 'good' loses its meaning.

I think atheists wanting to be "good" end up practicing statolatry, which is why Obama speaks to them:

In the end, then, what is called for is nothing more, and nothing less, than what all the world’s great religions demand – that we do unto others as we would have them do unto us. Let us be our brother’s keeper, Scripture tells us. Let us be our sister’s keeper. Let us find that common stake we all have in one another, and let our politics reflect that spirit as well.

189 posted on 11/13/2008 8:47:33 PM PST by dan1123 (If you want to find a person's true religion, ask them what makes them a "good person".)
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To: elkfersupper

Doesn’t sound like we’ll be very accesible to one another from the looks of it. Reckon we’ll just have to chat here (unless, of course you change your mind... I won’t)


190 posted on 11/13/2008 9:13:33 PM PST by Gordon Greene (www.fracturedrepublic.com - Me... I'm ignorant but I do know this; God is our only hope!)
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To: elkfersupper
Which of ...gods worshipped by man today would that be?

The only one that matters, the creator of the universe, the author of salvation, the great 'I Am'.

191 posted on 11/14/2008 4:39:12 AM PST by tbpiper (Now irate and tireless, but mostly irate.)
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To: Gordon Greene
They live under the pretense we are all born sinless and are only corrupted by the world, when the Word is clear we are born in sin.

It hurts our ego. We want to be the hero of our own story.

But I have found out that things go much more smoothly when I set ego aside and admit that at all times and in all things I need His help and guidance.

192 posted on 11/14/2008 4:10:02 PM PST by Harmless Teddy Bear (Faith Manages)
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To: Harmless Teddy Bear

“But I have found out that things go much more smoothly when I set ego aside and admit that at all times and in all things I need His help and guidance.”

Great admonition!

It’s the only way it can work out. We’re only useful in the grand scheme of things if we’re squashed and remolded in the image of our Creator.


193 posted on 11/14/2008 4:48:24 PM PST by Gordon Greene (www.fracturedrepublic.com - Me... I'm ignorant but I do know this; God is our only hope!)
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To: tbpiper
The only one that matters, the creator of the universe, the author of salvation, the great 'I Am'.

Googled "I Am"

Apparently God also manufactures pet food.


194 posted on 11/14/2008 7:19:11 PM PST by elkfersupper
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To: elkfersupper
You like to play... here's one for you I kicked out this evening...

195 posted on 11/14/2008 8:58:20 PM PST by Gordon Greene (www.fracturedrepublic.com - Me... I'm ignorant but I do know this; God is our only hope!)
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To: Gordon Greene

You are trying to change the subject, like all good propagandists.


196 posted on 11/15/2008 6:54:26 PM PST by elkfersupper
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To: elkfersupper

Just when I was thinking you were a good guy... I don’t care if you agree with me or not. That’s the difference in us... I tried to have conversation with you about what you wanted to talk about (religion) and you wouldn’t respond.

Your comments have been your own personal propaganda machine in this entire thread.

I was actually just trying to brighten your day a bit. But, alas...

Happy fishing, man. Hope you get another bite.


197 posted on 11/15/2008 7:02:27 PM PST by Gordon Greene (www.fracturedrepublic.com - Me... I'm ignorant but I do know this; God is our only hope!)
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To: Gordon Greene

Retreat is an honorable action.


198 posted on 11/15/2008 7:04:57 PM PST by elkfersupper
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To: elkfersupper

Give me a heads-up if you’d like to spar on the subject.

Retreat is not an option...


199 posted on 11/15/2008 7:08:27 PM PST by Gordon Greene (www.fracturedrepublic.com - Me... I'm ignorant but I do know this; God is our only hope!)
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