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Most affluent voters key to Obama sweep
The Politicio ^ | November 11, 2008 | Mark Penn

Posted on 11/11/2008 8:13:34 PM PST by Clintonfatigued

Barack Obama promised he would lower taxes for 95 percent of Americans and presumably raise them for the 5 percent who benefited most under President Bush’s tax policies. But, remarkably, the most affluent 5 percent supported Obama and that was perhaps the key to his victory last week.

(Excerpt) Read more at politico.com ...


TOPICS: Editorial; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: bho2008; millionaires; wealth

1 posted on 11/11/2008 8:13:34 PM PST by Clintonfatigued
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To: kesg; fieldmarshaldj; AuH2ORepublican; Kuksool; Norman Bates; LdSentinal; ExTexasRedhead; ...

We’ve discussed this before, but here’s an article about the topic specifically. It’s the most startling aspect of this election. At the same time, IMHO, this is the most fickle and unreliable portion of the electorate who supported Obama. They could easily bail out on him if he messes up.


2 posted on 11/11/2008 8:15:51 PM PST by Clintonfatigued (If Islam conquers the world, the Earth will be at peace because the human race will be killed off.)
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To: Clintonfatigued

Well..duh.....INCOME is taxed.....NOT wealth...and the wealthy have accountants, attorneys, etc...to help them AVOID taxes.....this is a no brainer....but it still pisses me off!


3 posted on 11/11/2008 8:16:13 PM PST by goodnesswins (CONSERVATIVES....saving America's A** whether you like it or not!)
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To: Clintonfatigued

Most flatulent voters key to Obama sweep


4 posted on 11/11/2008 8:17:51 PM PST by Roscoe Karns
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To: Clintonfatigued
I already read that the "key" was:

1. The "yoot" vote.

2. The Kollege Kiddie vote

3. The Hispanic vote

4. The "young" evangelical vote

5. The "Black" vote

6. The "intellectual" and "academia" vote

7. The Catholic vote

So which is it?

5 posted on 11/11/2008 8:19:17 PM PST by FlingWingFlyer (I voted for McCain/Palin so I can look my grandchildren in the eyes when I tell them I'm sorry.)
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To: Clintonfatigued

rush discussed this today.

does away with the myth that the democrats are the working people, or for the working people, meaning blue collar.

union parasites are not lower class.


6 posted on 11/11/2008 8:19:25 PM PST by ken21 (people die and you never hear from them again.)
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To: Clintonfatigued

why do people trust these exit poll data like its a bible?

have you ever seen a exit poll area ?
I have and the location is full of young kids and old people and alot of the welfare crowd.
Busy and productive people do not have time to fill out a 30 minute poll after waiting to vote.
How do know people just did not lie ?
How many Repub stopped versus Dems ??
This exit polls are bunk !


7 posted on 11/11/2008 8:21:25 PM PST by ncalburt (Read all about)
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To: Clintonfatigued

Now the O plans to nationalize the auto industry, soon it will be the airlines and healthcare... soon the so-called wealthy who voted for him are going to be much less enamored with him.


8 posted on 11/11/2008 8:21:40 PM PST by Arizona Carolyn
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To: Clintonfatigued

Proof that money makes you stupid? As if Hollywood weren’t enough proof of that.


9 posted on 11/11/2008 8:22:49 PM PST by RockinRight (Now it's my turn to have a psychotic, uncontrollable hatred for the President.)
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To: FlingWingFlyer

The yoot and kollege kiddie overlap.

The Hispanic vote heavily overlaps the Catholic vote. White Catholics voted for McCain.

Blacks increased their share of the electorate from 12% in 2004 (voting 87-13 for Kerry) to 15% this year (voting 95-5 for Obama).

Intellectual & academia partially overlap the wealthy vote.

All of those came together. But, more than anything else, Bush’s unpopularity and the collapse of the financial markets is what formed Obama’s coalition.


10 posted on 11/11/2008 8:23:13 PM PST by Clintonfatigued (If Islam conquers the world, the Earth will be at peace because the human race will be killed off.)
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To: Clintonfatigued

There’s no ‘IF’ about it. Either he does the exact opposite of his campaign rhetoric, or he will completely destroy the lives of many of these people. It’s really just that simple.


11 posted on 11/11/2008 8:23:35 PM PST by perfect_rovian_storm (RNC:NEWT OR NOT ONE DAMN DIME!)
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To: Clintonfatigued

Just in case he’s taking orders—I want a piece of Oprah’s pie; or Chris Matthew’s pie; or the Kerry-Heinz pie...


12 posted on 11/11/2008 8:24:01 PM PST by madison10
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To: Clintonfatigued
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13 posted on 11/11/2008 8:24:10 PM PST by Dick Bachert
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To: FlingWingFlyer

young evangelicals, eh
sounds like the “emergent ‘church’”


14 posted on 11/11/2008 8:24:16 PM PST by thesetruths
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To: Clintonfatigued; taraytarah

ACORN and idiots....enough said


15 posted on 11/11/2008 8:25:18 PM PST by kingattax (99 % of liberals give the rest a bad name)
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To: FlingWingFlyer
I already read that the "key" was:

Those are all sub-sets of the Stupid demographic. It's OK, the culling they've called down on themselves will bring forth schadenfreude of unparalleled magnitude.
16 posted on 11/11/2008 8:26:07 PM PST by aWolverine
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To: Clintonfatigued

Well, what’s more important, keeping taxes lower or keeping potential competition down by controlling and dividing working class families?


17 posted on 11/11/2008 8:26:34 PM PST by familyop (cbt. engr. (cbt), NG, '89-'96, Duncan Hunter or no-vote, http://falconparty.com/)
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To: Clintonfatigued

The key to the sweep of The One (piss be upon him) is the fact that The Sheep are liberals, and now they are the majority.


18 posted on 11/11/2008 8:29:36 PM PST by Old Sarge (For the first time in my life, I am ashamed to be an American)
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To: goodnesswins

The article forgot to mention the most affluent overseas illegal contributors was the key factor.


19 posted on 11/11/2008 8:30:18 PM PST by this is my country
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To: Clintonfatigued
They could easily bail out on him if he messes up.

With all due respect but..so? Morning after regrets mean nothing to him and his ilk. They've got a guaranteed berth for four years. Just keep the MSM happy and the devil take the rest. You know, like the emperors of Roman and the Praetorian guards.

20 posted on 11/11/2008 8:30:34 PM PST by yankeedame ("Oh, I can take it but I'd much rather dish it out.")
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To: RockinRight
"Proof that money makes you stupid? As if Hollywood weren’t enough proof of that."

Everyone should have an opportunity to work directly for them in order to know firsthand. The realization can be rather shocking. ;-)


21 posted on 11/11/2008 8:30:38 PM PST by familyop (cbt. engr. (cbt), NG, '89-'96, Duncan Hunter or no-vote, http://falconparty.com/)
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To: RockinRight

In some ways, it’s a bit like working in a canine mental ward.


22 posted on 11/11/2008 8:32:00 PM PST by familyop (cbt. engr. (cbt), NG, '89-'96, Duncan Hunter or no-vote, http://falconparty.com/)
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To: FlingWingFlyer

My brother in the windy city of Chicago has always told me “you vote for a Democrat to live like a Republican”. Is that a familiar phrase to anyone?


23 posted on 11/11/2008 8:32:21 PM PST by janee (janee)
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To: janee

AFL-CIO would agree with that.


24 posted on 11/11/2008 8:40:24 PM PST by Ciexyz
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To: janee
"you vote for a Democrat to live like a Republican"

Yes, I've heard that BS before coming from old line 'Rat politicians, but it's a ridiculous line that means zilch in the real world - unless the person being addressed is going to get a cushy government job for his vote. Otherwise, big-time tax and spend Dems like "Osama" Obama are not very good for the general economy.

25 posted on 11/11/2008 8:42:11 PM PST by justiceseeker93
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To: Clintonfatigued

You get what you pay for, now your gonna pay.


26 posted on 11/11/2008 8:45:00 PM PST by TheEaglehasLanded
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To: janee

In Chicago it’s a little more basic. If you want to live you vote Democrat and when you die you will your vote to the party.


27 posted on 11/11/2008 8:47:02 PM PST by TheEaglehasLanded
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To: Clintonfatigued

“They could easily bail out on him if he messes up.”

Their income levels and means of avoiding, deferring taxes and altering their income sources to avoid them altogether insure that no matter what Obama is saying to the sheeple, they will not be hurt by his policies anyway - and, besides, they got to make their greed-guilty conscience feel better.

SHOULD they feel guilty, no, unless they really are a thief.


28 posted on 11/11/2008 8:49:45 PM PST by Wuli
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To: Clintonfatigued

Conservatives must do something about academia.

All they teach now is Socialism, hate America, and and white guilt.


30 posted on 11/11/2008 9:12:16 PM PST by dervish (in God I trust)
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To: padre35

What do you need us to explain to you now?


31 posted on 11/11/2008 9:29:10 PM PST by Toddsterpatriot (Do you remember when blue was a feeling, gray was a word and one was a number...)
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To: dervish

And conservatives must also do something about: the ongoing and worsening political bias in the MSM, the ongoing and worsening “dumbing down” of people, and the ongoing and worsening of political correctness, and all of these things are happening worldwide.


32 posted on 11/11/2008 9:37:44 PM PST by johnthebaptistmoore (There's nothing good to say about leftists in complete control of everything important.)
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To: johnthebaptistmoore

The MSM is terrible. But at least we have an alternative media. Also I believe the corruption of the MSM is also an outgrowth of higher education.


33 posted on 11/11/2008 10:00:16 PM PST by dervish (in God I trust)
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To: dervish

The Fairness Doctrine is the beginning of the end of the alternative media. A serious civil war is really what will be needed to turn things around for all non-leftists, or conservatives and all other non-leftists will be successfully suppressed for a very long time, if not forever.


34 posted on 11/11/2008 10:17:54 PM PST by johnthebaptistmoore (There's nothing good to say about leftists in complete control of everything important.)
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To: Toddsterpatriot

Oh, there he is.

so do tell, where has my log running idea of Free Trade creating Democrats fall down?

Exit polls show the winners voting Obamao, and indeed, the High Scholl educated less then 50k voters going for Obamao.

My theory has been proven correct, Free Trade does nothing besides mint rich Democrats, and switch Blue Collar Republicans to the Democrat column.

Does Friedman have a chart for that phenom?


35 posted on 11/11/2008 10:19:05 PM PST by padre35 (Sarah Palin is the one we've been waiting for..Rom 10.10..)
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To: ken21; Clintonfatigued

36 posted on 11/11/2008 10:22:33 PM PST by uglybiker (1f u c4n r34d th1s u r34lly n33d 2 g3t l41d)
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To: padre35
so do tell, where has my log running idea of Free Trade creating Democrats fall down?

If only CAFTA hadn't passed, McCain would have won. LOL!

Exit polls show the winners voting Obamao, and indeed, the High Scholl [sic] educated less then 50k voters going for Obamao.

It's true, there are dumb rich people and dumb poor people out there. I blame NAFTA for the sad state of our public schools.

37 posted on 11/11/2008 10:23:57 PM PST by Toddsterpatriot (Do you remember when blue was a feeling, gray was a word and one was a number...)
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To: Clintonfatigued

This isn’t hard to understand if you analyze the tax payment profile and background like from http://www.taxpolicycenter.org/numbers/displayatab.cfm?DocID=1818

While there are about 148.5 million taxpayers, there are about 42 million between the $100,000 and $250,000 income levels. Obama promised these voters a tax cut.

In contrast, there are only 6 million taxpayers that earn over $250,000! What’s more interesting is that the average effective income tax rate is essentially level at 18.3% and 18.0% for earners above $601,000 and $2.9 million income respectively!


40 posted on 11/11/2008 10:43:03 PM PST by dickmc
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To: Clintonfatigued

Just a smoke screen to turn the attention from the millions upon millions of foreign donations.

Don’t be misled.


41 posted on 11/11/2008 10:46:59 PM PST by Carley (Vote McCain/Palin.....Change babies can live with.)
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To: ken21

More Democrats in Congress are “rich” by a larger margin than Repubs. Figure that.


42 posted on 11/11/2008 11:04:56 PM PST by pankot
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To: Clintonfatigued

btt


43 posted on 11/12/2008 12:33:11 AM PST by Cacique (quos Deus vult perdere, prius dementat ( Islamia Delenda Est ))
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To: Clintonfatigued

Certainly I was taken aback with that portion of the exit poll showing McCain losing the 250 grand and above crowd. I remember Bush dominating this voting bloc in 2004 by 2 to 1. IMO it’s more of a symptom rather than the cause of McCain’s failed bid for the WH.


44 posted on 11/12/2008 3:26:10 AM PST by Nemes1s
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To: pankot

true.

many like rahm emanuel came to congress with very little,

but are now millionaires. why?

fanny mae, freddy mac and countrywide provided money to them, and advice.


45 posted on 11/12/2008 6:03:14 AM PST by ken21 (people die and you never hear from them again.)
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To: Clintonfatigued

B...but I thought the Dems were the party of the poor and working class...


46 posted on 11/12/2008 8:41:41 AM PST by Inwoodian
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To: Nemes1s; Clintonfatigued

Did Bush really win ‘rich’ voters 2-1?


47 posted on 11/12/2008 11:01:33 AM PST by Impy (RED=COMMUNIST, NOT REPUBLICAN)
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To: Impy

Yep by the exit polls Bush won by 63 to 35 in the $200,000 and above bracket. It’s actually 1.8 to 1 but it’s close enough to 2 so I rounded up a bit.


48 posted on 11/13/2008 5:05:54 AM PST by Nemes1s
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To: Nemes1s

Wow, that is quite the turnaround then.


49 posted on 11/13/2008 10:06:31 AM PST by Impy (RED=COMMUNIST, NOT REPUBLICAN)
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