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Former Mexican president says wall not the answer
Journalstar.com ^ | 11-11-2008 | Don Walton

Posted on 11/12/2008 8:38:42 AM PST by stan_sipple

Former Mexican President Vicente Fox called Tuesday for increased trade and drug enforcement cooperation rather than a wall that separates neighbors.

“Building a wall is not the answer to our problems,” Fox told about 2,000 Nebraskans during a speech at the Orpheum Theater.

“Instead of building walls, we should be building bridges of understanding and cooperation, and education exchange, and technology exchange, and friendship.

“We are neighbors,” he said, “and we have been friends for a long, long time.”

Trade represents “wealth creation and job creation,” Fox said.

Not only in the United States, he said, but in Mexico, where trade can create opportunities for Mexicans in their own country and reduce the income disparity that sometimes lures them away.

“We must keep open our economies and our markets,” Fox said.

And that, he said, translates into continued support for NAFTA, the trade agreement that connects Mexico, Canada and the United States.

The United States and Mexico need to “work together” to battle illegal drug trafficking that is spreading violence in Mexico and misery across America, he said.

Mexico is “a transit country,” Fox said, caught between the largest drug-producing countries to its south and “the largest drug consumer in the world” on its north.

In a salute to Mexicans who have immigrated to the United States legally, Fox made the case for all those who “go after a dream, cross mountains to find a better life, seek to reach the unreachable.”

“To those who are here with your permission, they are my heroes,” he said.

“They are people with dignity, loyal to this great nation. To them, my regards and my admiration.”

The wall now under construction at the U.S.-Mexican border to stem illegal immigration is “being constructed by Mexicans, by the way,” Fox noted with a wry smile.

Fox was in Nebraska on Tuesday to sign a working agreement between Centro Fox, his presidential library and research center, and Gallup, headquartered in Omaha.

The Orpheum event was co-hosted by the Greater Omaha Chamber of Commerce and the Latino Center of the Midlands.

Following his speech, Fox attended a private reception with Omaha business executives and community leaders.

With NAFTA having been targeted during the U.S. presidential campaign, Fox stressed the importance of the trade agreement for America.

Mexico imports $200 billion in goods from the United States every year, he said, and that equates into “lots of jobs” in America.

“We buy cars, computers, telephones, tires, washing machines,” he said.

“We buy meat from Nebraska.

“We buy services from Gallup.”

Fox said this year’s U.S. presidential election was “inspiring and motivating for young democracies all over the world.”

The United States demonstrated that its democracy is “so young, so fresh, so dynamic, so exciting,” he said.

The election brings “the same hope for the future (to) the rest of the world” that was expressed during the campaign, Fox said.

“And now the man has to sit in the chair,” he said, not mentioning President-elect Barack Obama by name.

Asked what he would have done differently when he sat in the chair as Mexico’s president from 2000 to 2006 if he could do it over again, Fox dismissed such a thought as “wishful thinking.”

But, he said, if he had the power and the time, he would “hope to have every single kid in a school, every family with food on the table and every person with an opportunity for a job.”


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Government; US: Nebraska
KEYWORDS: aliens; buildthefence; illegalaliens; immigrantlist; immigration; mexibraska; mexico; reconquista; shutupfox; vicentefox

1 posted on 11/12/2008 8:38:42 AM PST by stan_sipple
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To: stan_sipple

Good fences make good neighbors.

Friends don’t overstay their welcome. Don’t barge in uninvited. Don’t campaign to overthrow your house rules. And don’t milk your system.


2 posted on 11/12/2008 8:40:53 AM PST by DannyTN
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To: stan_sipple

Now refresh my memory, but how does the Mexican government treat illegals from Guatamalla?


3 posted on 11/12/2008 8:41:15 AM PST by NavVet ( If you don't defend Conservatism in the Primaries, you won't have it to defend in November)
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To: stan_sipple
“We are neighbors,” he said, “and we have been friends for a long, long time.”

That's fine.
The wall will have gates.

4 posted on 11/12/2008 8:41:56 AM PST by grobdriver (Let the embeds check the bodies!)
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To: stan_sipple
The wall now under construction at the U.S.-Mexican border to stem illegal immigration is “being constructed by Mexicans, by the way,” Fox noted with a wry smile.

GOOD. Now, let's make them pay for it, too...

5 posted on 11/12/2008 8:42:32 AM PST by LongElegantLegs (Deplore the profligate scattering of corpses!)
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To: stan_sipple
Yeah, I think our plan to bankrupt our nation and turn it into a 3rd world socialist economy ought to stem the tide of that pesky illegal immigration problem quite nicely...

Now why didn't I think of that...

6 posted on 11/12/2008 8:42:34 AM PST by El Cid (Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house...)
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To: stan_sipple

Ever been to Mexico?? Except for a couple of resorts, it’s a big sewer but has lotsa assets...with a lazy, do nothing government.


7 posted on 11/12/2008 8:42:41 AM PST by Sacajaweau (I'm planting corn...Have to feed my car...)
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To: stan_sipple
“Instead of building walls, we should be building bridges of understanding and cooperation, and education exchange, and technology exchange, and friendship.

We tried that and it isn't working.

8 posted on 11/12/2008 8:42:46 AM PST by McLynnan
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To: stan_sipple
Friends knock on the front door and wait to be invited in.

Really good friends might be allowed to come back and check if I'm grilling something if I don't answer.

No one gets to climb through my window, raid my refrigerator and sleep in my bed.

9 posted on 11/12/2008 8:45:45 AM PST by KarlInOhio (11/4: The revolutionary socialists beat the Fabian ones. Where can we find a capitalist party?)
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To: All

No ? How about a wall with automated machine guns hooked up to the internet ?


10 posted on 11/12/2008 8:45:45 AM PST by farlander (Try not to wear milk bone underwear - it's a dog eat dog financial world)
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To: stan_sipple

Oh, you mean the wall that we’re not building?


11 posted on 11/12/2008 8:47:31 AM PST by Jagman (Don't tax me, bro!)
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To: DannyTN

When the former president of Mexico say a fence isn’t the answer...you know that it is the answer.


13 posted on 11/12/2008 8:49:25 AM PST by Ouderkirk (I believe that criminals, like communists, are on their best behavior when they are afraid.)
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To: TADSLOS

Please don’t post pictures like this


14 posted on 11/12/2008 8:49:42 AM PST by Scythian
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To: stan_sipple
“We are neighbors,” he said, “and we have been friends for a long, long time.”

I don't know, Vincente. If my neighbor was constantly coming into my house, stealing my food, getting drunk and stepping on my kids, I don't think he'd be someone I'd call a friend.

It's a two way street, amigo.

Owl_Eagle

“When the stock market crashed,
Franklin Roosevelt got on the television
and didn’t just talk about
the princes of greed, he said,
‘Look, here’s what happened.’"
-Slow Joe Biden

15 posted on 11/12/2008 8:52:47 AM PST by South Hawthorne (In Memory of my Dear Friend Henry Lee II)
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To: Sacajaweau

...it’s a big sewer but has lotsa assets...with a lazy, do nothing government.

And an encrusted caste system that rivals that of India. If you are one of the handful of original Spanish families, whose ancestors pillaged the Indian cultures of Mexico in the 17th century, you are rich and successful. If you are a member one of the vast majority of indigenous native cultures, you are in the peon class. That’s the class the ruling elite wants the US taxpayer to provide every service for. “We breed. You feed.” should be the official motto of Mexico.


16 posted on 11/12/2008 8:53:47 AM PST by kittymyrib
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To: Scythian; TADSLOS
Yes ... we must not face reality. If you can't see it, it didn't happen.


Can't we all just get along?

17 posted on 11/12/2008 8:55:22 AM PST by G.Mason
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To: stan_sipple
Not only in the United States, he said, but in Mexico, where trade can create opportunities for Mexicans in their own country and reduce the income disparity that sometimes lures them away.
Former Mexican President Vicente Fox..."Physician, Heal thy self"...Why don't you return your "Customary Bribes" from Pamex (sp?)/ Solve your own country's systemic (+90 years) corruption ....
18 posted on 11/12/2008 8:55:54 AM PST by skinkinthegrass (just b/c you're paranoid, doesn't mean "they" aren't out to get you.. :^)
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To: skinkinthegrass

I guess the word jurisdiction has no meaning to this fellow. It does to me.


19 posted on 11/12/2008 8:57:05 AM PST by Wally_Kalbacken
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To: stan_sipple

“We are neighbors,” he said, “and we have been friends for a long, long time.”

&&&
No, Vinnie, you are not our friend. Friends don’t neglect their own children’s health and welfare and then help their children sneak into someone else’s house to steal what they need.


20 posted on 11/12/2008 8:58:13 AM PST by Bigg Red (Palin in 2012!)
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To: stan_sipple
...So why don't you "do the same" on your southern border...Senor (Former Mexican) President Vicente Fox.
21 posted on 11/12/2008 8:59:21 AM PST by skinkinthegrass (just b/c you're paranoid, doesn't mean "they" aren't out to get you.. :^)
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To: stan_sipple
Former Mexican president says wall not the answer

It's a start. The answer will require minefields and bunkers, in addition to a wall.

22 posted on 11/12/2008 9:03:30 AM PST by cayuga (A 9mm is a .45 set to Stun. NRA-Life)
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To: grobdriver

We have dozens of ports of entry — gates if you will — through which people can enter legally. Anyone who comes in to our country at any location other than a port of entry is in violation of the law, and that includes U.S. citizens.


23 posted on 11/12/2008 9:16:02 AM PST by 3AngelaD (They screwed up their own countries so bad they had to leave, and now they're here screwing up ours.)
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To: Sacajaweau
Ever been to Mexico?? Except for a couple of resorts, it’s a big sewer but has lotsa assets...with a lazy, do nothing government.

Yes, I have been to Mexico several times. You are right, lots of natural resources and assets. The Mexicans I know here in the U.S. are, for the most part, hard working and family oriented. You hit the nail on the head when you pointed out its a big sewer because of the corrupt government there. That is, unfortunately, why I think a big fence can only impede the flow of humanity and not prevent it. When things are bad enough in one country, people will find a way to get to another country where things are good. 90 miles of shark-infested, stormy waters have not prevented Cubans from making the journey here. The flow will only stop when things in Mexico improve. 99% of the items sold in Wal-Mart are made half the world away in China. You would think Mexico, having abundant cheap labor and minimal transportation costs, would have filled that demand. Instead, the communists in China are better capitalists than the plutocracy that is Mexico. Fox and his group are in it for their personal power and wealth.

24 posted on 11/12/2008 9:16:08 AM PST by Armando Guerra
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To: stan_sipple
“Building a wall is not the answer to our problems,”

Sure it is, Vinnie. You've already shown your country is so lame and corrupt that you won't do anything to stem the tide of Mexican citizens running hard and fast away from your country.

25 posted on 11/12/2008 9:21:07 AM PST by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall cause you to vote against the Democrats.)
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To: stan_sipple

“Building a wall is not the answer to our problems.”

He’s right. Building a wall is the answer to America’s problem.

And building a wall will force Mexico to take care of its own problems, and not to just export them to the US.

Mexico’s problem is that it goes to dinner with the US, who is having a salad, and Mexico orders the steak. Then it wants to split the check.


26 posted on 11/12/2008 9:39:33 AM PST by yefragetuwrabrumuy
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To: 1_Inch_Group; 2sheep; 2Trievers; 3AngelaD; 3pools; 3rdcanyon; 4Freedom; 4ourprogeny; 7.62 x 51mm; ..

ping


27 posted on 11/12/2008 9:54:59 AM PST by gubamyster
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To: stan_sipple

He’s right, we should be putting up machine gun towers and planting mine fields from the Pacific to the Gulf, anything that moves dies!


28 posted on 11/12/2008 10:07:48 AM PST by dalereed
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To: stan_sipple
Oh good, Vicki the Fox is babbling again.

Must be worried that the wall will work, and prevent his criminal armies from operating with impunity inside the U.S.

This is all just a thug intimidation game. See if you can sucker the gringos into dropping resistance to the takeover.

Lucky for him he has an even better buddy in the White House now. OTraitor will probably come out and say how evil the wall is, and how we must embrace our brethern to the south....and let them kill us, because you know, it's all our fault.

Henry Paulson told us so this morning.

29 posted on 11/12/2008 10:16:48 AM PST by Regulator (Welcome to Zimbabwe)
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To: dalereed

I wish more people felt that way.


30 posted on 11/12/2008 10:35:24 AM PST by TexasRepublic (Comrade, can you spare a slice of bread?)
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To: dalereed

why build a fence when claymores can do the job?


31 posted on 11/12/2008 10:41:02 AM PST by stan_sipple
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To: stan_sipple; Guenevere; mugsaway; CSM; calcowgirl; RightSideNews; Grimmy; BradyLS; DeLaVerdad; ...

Presidente ping!

If you want on, or off this S. Texas/Mexico ping list, please FReepMail me.


32 posted on 11/12/2008 10:44:56 AM PST by SwinneySwitch (ObamaNation - beyond your expectations.)
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To: stan_sipple

To keep out those who can’t read.


33 posted on 11/12/2008 10:51:38 AM PST by B4Ranch (("In politics, nothing happens by accident. If it happens, you can bet it was planned that way." FDR)
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To: Scythian

Better steel yourself to it. You’ll be seeing more and it’s coming el Norte.


34 posted on 11/12/2008 11:18:51 AM PST by TADSLOS (McCain Courted Socialism and Brought Us Marxism Instead)
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To: DannyTN

Like he’ll have to worry about walls with Hussein in the White House. The only wall Americans are likely to see will be the one hastily built around 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue when the Messiah overturns-or ignores-the 2nd amendment.


35 posted on 11/12/2008 12:39:15 PM PST by Oldpuppymax (AGENDA OF THE LEFT EXPOSED)
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To: Oldpuppymax

It wouldn’t surprise me to see Obama block the Mexicans and open the floodgates to Africa and/or Indonesia.


36 posted on 11/12/2008 12:40:43 PM PST by DannyTN
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To: stan_sipple

“The United States demonstrated that its democracy is “so young, so fresh, so dynamic, so exciting,” he said.”

It appears, too many of your countrymen have spoiled the pie.


37 posted on 11/12/2008 12:58:23 PM PST by wolfcreek (I see miles and miles of Texas....let's keep it that way.)
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To: SwinneySwitch

PUT ME ON!~


38 posted on 11/12/2008 1:12:44 PM PST by stan_sipple
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To: stan_sipple
Former Mexican president says wall not the answer

Well, its not the answer if it NEVER GETS BUILT.

Give it a chance.

39 posted on 11/12/2008 3:22:29 PM PST by Paul Ross (Ronald Reagan-1987:"We are always willing to be trade partners but never trade patsies.")
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To: stan_sipple
The wall now under construction at the U.S.-Mexican border to stem illegal immigration is “being constructed by Mexicans, by the way,” Fox noted with a wry smile.

More evidence of Bush foreign corruption.

40 posted on 11/12/2008 3:23:43 PM PST by Paul Ross (Ronald Reagan-1987:"We are always willing to be trade partners but never trade patsies.")
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To: LongElegantLegs
GOOD. Now, let's make them pay for it, too...

Did you see where it was being made with CHINESE steel?

RINO Bush is sure acting like a traitor.

41 posted on 11/12/2008 3:27:04 PM PST by Paul Ross (Ronald Reagan-1987:"We are always willing to be trade partners but never trade patsies.")
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To: stan_sipple
“Instead of building walls, we should be building bridges of understanding...

OK understand this, The United States is not the welfare department for Mexico.

42 posted on 11/12/2008 3:33:24 PM PST by RJL
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To: stan_sipple

The wall is an important part of the solution. Of course, we also need deportation especially of those who have broken the laws for many years. Yes, we can deport. Eisenhower did it.


43 posted on 11/13/2008 11:19:49 AM PST by Dante3
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