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Catholic Church drops ACORN funding
UPI.com ^ | :Nov. 13, 2008

Posted on 11/13/2008 7:17:11 AM PST by AmericanMade1776

The Roman Catholic Church has halted contributions to the community organizing group ACORN because of questionable voting incidents, a church official says.

The Catholic Campaign for Human Development cited, among other things, complaints over ACORN's registration drives in the Nov. 4 election, CNN reported.

"We simply had too many questions and concerns to permit further CCHD funding of ACORN groups," Roger Morin, the auxiliary bishop of New Orleans and campaign chairman, told the U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops meeting in Baltimore, Md.

(Excerpt) Read more at upi.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: acorn; catholic
Has anyone from Acorn been arrested yet? Is voter fraud just okayh with law enforcement? If so, does that mean we can all vote as often as we want, if we find the loop holes, in the next election, because no one is arrested. I think you would get more time in jail or a bigger fine if you jaywalked, or dropped trash on main street.
1 posted on 11/13/2008 7:17:11 AM PST by AmericanMade1776
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To: AmericanMade1776

ACORN can do without the Catholic church’s money since they are getting a nice chunk from the bailout funds.


2 posted on 11/13/2008 7:19:28 AM PST by a real Sheila (Obama's presidency will cause Americans to have FOND memories of G.W. Bush.)
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To: AmericanMade1776

Good news!

OT: I just heard on Fox at about 10 a.m. that George Soros is being investigated in the hedge fund role of the financial meltdown!


3 posted on 11/13/2008 7:19:29 AM PST by sageb1 (Justice is for lawyers. Liberty is for We,The People.)
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To: sageb1

The investigation will be terminated by executive order on 21 Jan 09.


4 posted on 11/13/2008 7:21:40 AM PST by 17th Miss Regt
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To: sageb1
Soros and Falcone to face Congress.
5 posted on 11/13/2008 7:22:33 AM PST by sono (What happens when the Kool Aid wears off?)
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To: a real Sheila

I am pissed that perhaps my tithing funded this criminal enterprise.


6 posted on 11/13/2008 7:22:33 AM PST by guido911 (Islamic terrorists are members of the "ROP", the "religion of pu*&ies")
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To: AmericanMade1776

ACORN was founded and is run by a domestic terrorist! Why was the Church funding them to start with?


7 posted on 11/13/2008 7:24:39 AM PST by ColdWater
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To: sageb1

Thank you sage... for that information, as I quit watching any TV News... I sure hope George Soros goes down.

But seriously has anyone been arrested for Voter fraud? On either side.. Republican or Democrat? Are Voter laws just a bunch of hooey?


8 posted on 11/13/2008 7:24:39 AM PST by AmericanMade1776 ( Obama Happens! Not my Fault!)
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To: AmericanMade1776
The people at the Roman Catholic church seem to be a little slow on the uptake: abusive priests, not denying the Sacrament to those who support abortion; telling their parishioners that it is inconsistent for them to be Catholic and support those who promote abortion; ......
9 posted on 11/13/2008 7:25:22 AM PST by BilLies
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To: ColdWater
ColdWater wrote: ACORN was founded and is run by a domestic terrorist! Why was the Church funding them to start with?

I dunno, but good question.

10 posted on 11/13/2008 7:25:35 AM PST by AmericanMade1776 ( Obama Happens! Not my Fault!)
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To: BilLies
BilLies wrote: The people at the Roman Catholic church seem to be a little slow on the uptake: abusive priests, not denying the Sacrament to those who support abortion; telling their parishioners that it is inconsistent for them to be Catholic and support those who promote abortion; ......

What a bunch of pansies we all are, we don't stand up for what we believe in anymore.

11 posted on 11/13/2008 7:27:34 AM PST by AmericanMade1776 ( Obama Happens! Not my Fault!)
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To: AmericanMade1776
A day late. Why investigate where the money is spent AFTER it supports illegal activities? Who is watching the Purse strings here? Would a closer look find the church is supporting abortion, homosexual marriage, or diminishing the church in the world?

The truth be know, I'll bet the money is going to other satanic, anti God, anti US, orginizations.

12 posted on 11/13/2008 7:28:04 AM PST by chuckles
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To: sono

Thanks.


13 posted on 11/13/2008 7:29:40 AM PST by sageb1 (Justice is for lawyers. Liberty is for We,The People.)
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To: chuckles
DON'T BE FOOLED!!! They are only announcing this now because the election is fresh in everyones memory as is ACORNS illegal activities and the second collection on Sunday Nov 23rd for this group is approaching

Please donate to the Little Sisters of the Poor instead on Nov 23rd.

14 posted on 11/13/2008 7:32:19 AM PST by icwhatudo
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To: AmericanMade1776

Well, this is good news!


15 posted on 11/13/2008 7:32:44 AM PST by Salvation ( †With God all things are possible.†)
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To: AmericanMade1776
Join the Bishops in fighting FOCA! (See highlights in list.)

Pray for LIFE!

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16 posted on 11/13/2008 7:34:10 AM PST by Salvation ( †With God all things are possible.†)
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To: BilLies
Church leadership has been significantly crippled since the 60's when the gays and Marxists began to infiltrate. It has long been time to cull the herd.

I would say, however, that the Church is trending conservative. Hopefully that means we'll see more decisive action.

17 posted on 11/13/2008 7:34:24 AM PST by GOP_Party_Animal
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To: AmericanMade1776

Did’t take you Catholic bashers long to hop onto this thread, did it!


18 posted on 11/13/2008 7:37:58 AM PST by notaliberal
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To: sageb1
"OT: I just heard on Fox at about 10 a.m. that George Soros is being investigated in the hedge fund role of the financial meltdown!"

Now that is good news! I bet Soros was one of the oil speculators who drove the price of oil sky high until he saw that it gave the Republicans a rallying cry, then all of a sudden oil drops to $60 bucks a barrel????

19 posted on 11/13/2008 7:38:42 AM PST by avacado
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To: ColdWater

Also our tax money.


20 posted on 11/13/2008 7:40:02 AM PST by Piquaboy (22 year veteran of the Army, Air Force and Navy, Pray for all our military .)
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To: AmericanMade1776

ACORN had a lot of fronts, and money didn’t go to ACORN directly, but to something with a name like “Neighborhood Health Alliance” or some such innocuous thing. However, the lefties in the CCHD knew perfectly well where it was going. The bishops are finally asking some questions, but nobody questioned these leftists for way too long.


21 posted on 11/13/2008 7:42:37 AM PST by livius
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To: notaliberal
notaliberal wrote: Did’t take you Catholic bashers long to hop onto this thread, did it!

Steady boy! Even Catholics can be critiqued. I wouldn't call it bashing. Such sensitivity over the realities of what is going on within your church is kind of alarming. I wouldn't say that just for the Catholic Church , but for any denomination. Trust me , I have seen bad things done in churches and covered up, because well it is too sensitive to discuss or for the public to know about.

22 posted on 11/13/2008 7:42:48 AM PST by AmericanMade1776 ( Obama Happens! Not my Fault!)
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To: Piquaboy
Also our tax money.

And the next time you sign a mortgage, check and see that $490 line item added to it and ask why?

23 posted on 11/13/2008 7:51:24 AM PST by ColdWater
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To: sono

...like Waxman’s gonna go hard on Soros,,,,right


24 posted on 11/13/2008 7:56:23 AM PST by ErnBatavia (Cuba got "Change"...in 1959)
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To: notaliberal
Did’t take you Catholic bashers long to hop onto this thread, did it!

The Catholics voted in the majority for Obama.

25 posted on 11/13/2008 7:56:36 AM PST by ColdWater
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To: notaliberal

When the truth is presented, why is that bashing? Isn’t that simply pointing out the real character of the organization?


26 posted on 11/13/2008 7:57:02 AM PST by Dutchboy88
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To: guido911

Contact you bishop and tell him to not send the CCHD collection to the USCCB and instead keep in in your own diocese to serve the poor.


27 posted on 11/13/2008 7:57:55 AM PST by veritas2002
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To: ColdWater

Contact you bishop and tell him not to send the CCHD collection to the USCCB and instead keep in in your own diocese to serve the poor.


28 posted on 11/13/2008 7:58:50 AM PST by veritas2002
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To: guido911

Me too. I had no idea!


29 posted on 11/13/2008 8:00:13 AM PST by stevio (Crunchy Con - God, guns, guts, and organically grown crunchy nuts.)
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To: stevio

What do you know, the Catholic church has finally woken up, I never understood all those Catholic Democrats, I’ll refrain from saying more and let this end on a positive note. Good for the Catholics ...


30 posted on 11/13/2008 8:01:38 AM PST by Scythian
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To: AmericanMade1776

Too little-—too late.

The Catholics knew about ACORN’s problems for years. It was only because ACORN was finally put in the public spotlight that they stopped funding.


31 posted on 11/13/2008 8:03:08 AM PST by Presbyterian Reporter
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To: AmericanMade1776

If you take a public stand against your pastor or Archbishop, you are critisized, shunned and mocked!

Criticism is never accepted and contempt is always manifested by the Hierachy.

the priest and bishops are always right!


32 posted on 11/13/2008 8:03:40 AM PST by ethics
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To: icwhatudo

I have stopped putting money in the collection basket on Sundays ever since the pedophile priests scandals broke. I also have never given to the CHD. There are many questionable organizations that may be included in this collection.


33 posted on 11/13/2008 8:04:58 AM PST by murron (Proud Marine Mom)
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To: AmericanMade1776

What’s the rush?


34 posted on 11/13/2008 8:12:41 AM PST by informavoracious
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To: sageb1

Drudge should make that a headline on his website.

George Soros being investigated for financial meltdown!!!!


35 posted on 11/13/2008 8:28:45 AM PST by BlueAngel
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To: AmericanMade1776

Voter fraud is okay if it’s conducted by democrats.


36 posted on 11/13/2008 8:30:47 AM PST by TAdams8591 (Senator McCain come out and support Governor Palin!!!!!)
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To: AmericanMade1776
One would have thought ACORN's links to abortionists would have precluded this to begin with.

Though better late than never....

37 posted on 11/13/2008 8:30:49 AM PST by onedoug
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To: Scythian

“I never understood all those Catholic Democrats”

I remember that when I was little and JFK was running, there were so many Catholics in our town who voted democrat. The connection was that they were laborers for Ford and the unions demanded that they vote democrat. And they did! God forbid that they should think for themselves and vote conscience in the booth. What the unions decreed, they did robotically.


38 posted on 11/13/2008 8:38:01 AM PST by MayflowerMadam ("...a hyphenated American is not an American at all." T. Roosevelt)
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To: AmericanMade1776
I am sure if funding ever becomes a problem the steps will be as follows.

Start new NPO.
Get more funding.
Go on with business as usual.
Rinse, lather, repeat.

We need to also watch the group of people behind these types of organizations.
39 posted on 11/13/2008 8:40:46 AM PST by LuxMaker (The Constitution is a mere thing of wax in the hands of the judiciary, Thomas J 1819)
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To: Scythian

We have a bunch of leftists in our Church. They go under the guise of “The Faith Justice Group” and probably know, if not support this stuff. Our priest is a holy and conservative man, if he wasn’t, we’d be out of there. I’m a Christian first, Catholic second.


40 posted on 11/13/2008 8:46:32 AM PST by stevio (Crunchy Con - God, guns, guts, and organically grown crunchy nuts.)
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To: guido911

ACORNS connection to CHD has been reported by FR many times. I stopped tithing years ago. You can send money to organizations that actually help people (orphanages for example) and you can volunteer at the local parish level. I give money locally only to those collections that don’t fall under Parish Share. Parish Share is a pot of money for the Bishops to do anything (lobby for illegal aliens, Catholic school for non-Catholics, ACORN etc.)


41 posted on 11/13/2008 8:46:36 AM PST by Varda
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To: AmericanMade1776

Hmmm, I wonder how many other private groups donate to ACORN?


42 posted on 11/13/2008 8:55:04 AM PST by Free Vulcan (No prisoners. No mercy. 2010 awaits.....)
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To: AmericanMade1776

Of course, it’s not “the Catholic Church,” but the American bishops, who have been funding ACORN.

The real problem is the Campaign for Human Development. It is the HARD HARD LEFT within the liberal fascist bureaucracy the bishops created in Washington to support Woodrow Wilson’s war and military draft (in defiance of Pope Benedict XV) in 1917, the National Catholic War Conference—now known as the United States Conference of Catholic Bishops.

There have been previous scandals with CCHD’s exclusive support of hard left organizations, pro-abortion politicians, etc. CCHD exists, in large part, to nullify anything “pro-life” the bishops might be accomplishing.


43 posted on 11/13/2008 9:23:30 AM PST by Arthur McGowan
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To: Varda

Thanks for the advice.


44 posted on 11/13/2008 9:36:21 AM PST by guido911 (Islamic terrorists are members of the "ROP", the "religion of pu*&ies")
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To: guido911

Fortunately, CCHD is funded by a special collection, on one Sunday of the year, so you haven’t been contributing to it unawares. The collection is not taken up in my diocese.


45 posted on 11/13/2008 9:39:45 AM PST by Arthur McGowan
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To: AmericanMade1776

The Dirctor of the Campaign for Human Development (CCHD) at the USCCB (a lay person) was once a Democrat activist in the Minnesota Democrat Farm Labor party and a Hubert Humphrey protege. He has long supported ACORN through his control of the CCHD and disbursement of its grants. These grants were over a $ 1 million this year and $7 million over the last 10 years.

He knew all about ACORN’s involvement in helping liberal Democrat causes and probably kept most of that from the naive bishops, who thought all the money was going to help the poor.

He was in violation of the law, disrespectful of Catholic Church procedures for non-involvement in political campaigns, and dishonest in the misappropriation of Catholics’ contributions intended for the poor but channeled into his personal political agenda.


46 posted on 11/13/2008 5:21:29 PM PST by oldbill
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