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Posted on 11/19/2008 12:01:49 AM PST by blueplum
Berg issues three challenges in ad on page 5:
1) Was Barack Obama born in Kenya? 2) Is he really a citizen of Indonesia? 3) Does the Constitution still matter?
http://www.obamacrimes.com/index.php/news/65-full-page-ad-in-washington-times-weekly-november-17-2008
Here’s the full-page Philip Berg ad:
http://www.obamacrimes.com/attachments/065_Obama%20Crimes%20Ad%20-%20Wash%20Times%2020081117.pdf
Article link:
out of curiosity, what is the readership of The Washington Times? In other words, does an ad in this effective?
Nice concise ad. We will see if Obama responds.
Makes it more difficult for other media to ignore.
“That’s what Philip J. Berg has asked the United States Supreme Court to verify. The Supreme Court has asked for a response from Senator Barack Obama along with the Democratic National Committee and Federal Elections Commission. And they have until December 1st to respond.”
Is this true? The Supreme Court has asked for a Dec 1 response?
With other words, that would be a sentence! =)
No. The Washington Times is like the Fox News of national papers, except that it has the circulation of National Review.
The only people who will see this already agree with it. The 65 million people who voted for Obama don't want to hear about this even if he isn't a nat born citizen.
In answer to the ad, NO! the Constitution does not matter to the majority of those who voted in 2008.
No. Justice Souter has already kicked Berg's case out once.
with all due respect, it’s my understanding that the Wash Times is extremely suspect with other media types because of who owns it. I don’t see the paper as a joke but the Wash times is looked upon as a joke of a paper by many others. I highly doubt this will stir any other papers to join the cause for confirmation of Obama’s citizenship. The major lame scream media will do nothing to hurt Obama. They will not let him fail and if he does, they will cover for him.
As I have written before the FIX IS IN.
So do you know what the ad is referring to ? Thanks.
I believe he denied the motion to delay the election, but obama or DNC still have to respond by Dec 1.
The Washington Times is a daily broadsheet newspaper published in Washington, D.C., the capital of the United States. It was founded in 1982 by Unification Church founder Sun Myung Moon. The Times is known for its conservative stance on political and social issues. As of March 31, 2007, it had an average daily circulation of 102,351,[2] about one-seventh that of its chief competitor in Washington, The Washington Post.
Obama is so lawyer’d up, I doubt he’ll have to respond. Teflon Presidents rarely do.
| No. 08-570 | ||||
| Title: |
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| Docketed: | October 31, 2008 | |||
| Lower Ct: | United States Court of Appeals for the Third Circuit |
| Case Nos.: | (08-4340) |
| Rule 11 |
| ~~~Date~~~ | ~~~~~~~Proceedings and Orders~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ |
| Oct 30 2008 | Petition for a writ of certiorari before judgment filed. (Response due December 1, 2008) |
| Oct 31 2008 | Application (08A391) for an injunction pending disposition of the petition for a writ of certiorari, submitted to Justice Souter. |
| Nov 3 2008 | Supplemental brief of applicant Philip J. Berg filed. |
| Nov 3 2008 | Application (08A391) denied by Justice Souter. |
| ~~Name~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ | ~~~~~~~Address~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ | ~~Phone~~~ |
| Attorneys for Petitioner: | ||
| Philip J. Berg | 555 Andorra Glen Court, Suite 12 | (610) 825-3134 |
| Lafayette Hill, PA 09867 | ||
| Party name: Philip J. Berg | ||
| Attorneys for Respondents: | ||
| Gregory G. Garre | Solicitor General | (202) 514-2217 |
| United States Department of Justice | ||
| 950 Pennsylvania Avenue, N.W. | ||
| Washington, DC 20530-0001 | ||
| Party name: Federal Election Commission, et al. | ||
My guess is that this ad will be read by a few thousand people who already know all about this.
Preaching to the choir, while satisfying, doesn't convert many people.
We’d best get used to Obama’s deceit. Once a Chicago politician....
But lots has changed in newspaper circulation since 2007! I know plenty of DCers who have canceled the Post and take the Times.
Nice Ad — concise and to the point!!!
Of course the Constitution doesn’t matter to Hussein.
If he takes the oath of office, he should immediately be brought up on perjury charges.
course, if the BC lists Frank Marshall Davis as the father, then Obama suffers nothing but minor embarrassmnet.
O responded already. He said these court cases by citizens are garbage.
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“Does the Constitution still matter?” That’s the acid test, At least half the voters couldn’t care less.
Back when I was a kid (long time ago, I'll admit!) I spent a year in Washington, and I always thought the "other paper", the Evening/Sunday Star, was head and shoulders above the Post.
But the Post caters to a different clientele, so what appeals to normal people wouldn't turn the trick for the Post's subscriber list.
Too bad. I'm hoping the Times stays around, and is healthy enough, until we can get the Palin administration in 4 years hence!
CA....
bttt
What about by Keyes?
Leo was on Prarie Radio and Lan’s show last night. Super guy. Gary Creep doing the Keyes case was on Prarie after Leo. Leo gave Gary suggestions on how to improve their case and to get it to the CA Supreme Court ASAP.
It seems Gary’s group needs money to improve their effort. Leo is not wealthy and he is doing it out of his pocket.
We need to call all the conservative radio talk show hosts to get Leo and Gary on their shows.
btt
“When Barack Obama Jr. was born on Aug. 4,1961, in Honolulu, Kenya was a British colony, still part of the United Kingdom’s dwindling empire. As a Kenyan native, Barack Obama Sr. was a British subject whose citizenship status was governed by The British Nationality Act of 1948. That same act governed the status of Obama Sr.‘s children.
“Since Sen. Obama has neither renounced his U.S. citizenship nor sworn an oath of allegiance to Kenya, his Kenyan citizenship automatically expired on Aug. 4,1982.” That is a direct admission Barack Obama was a British citizen “at birth”.
“My law suit argues that since Obama had dual citizenship “at birth” and therefore split loyalties “at birth”, he is not a “natural born citizen” of the United States. A “natural born citizen” would have no other jurisdiction over him “at birth” other than that of the United States. The Framers chose the words “natural born” and those words cannot be ignored. The status referred to in Article 2, Section 1, “natural born citizen”, pertains to the status of the person’s citizenship “at birth”.
His argument reminds me of the Missing 13th Amendment: Titles of Nobility -- which was supposedly adopted as an amendment to the Constitution in 1819 but then abandoned after the Civil War. It was drawn up to prevent those with divided loyalties/ties/etc to any foreign power [aimed mainly at Great Britain at the time] from any position in the United States Government and the penalty was forfeiture of citizenship.
Here it is:
Berg’s gotta get louder and louder and louder. This thing’s not goin’ away. He should dare Obama to sue him for libel.
More noise on this every day. Will be interesting to see how much longer the MSM can continue to ignore.
bttt
“His argument reminds me of the Missing 13th Amendment: Titles of Nobility — which was supposedly adopted as an amendment to the Constitution in 1819 but then abandoned after the Civil War. It was drawn up to prevent those with divided loyalties/ties/etc to any foreign power [aimed mainly at Great Britain at the time] from any position in the United States Government and the penalty was forfeiture of citizenship.
33 posted on Wednesday, November 19, 2008 10:24:30 AM by Uncle Chip (TRUTH : Ignore it. Deride it. Allegorize it. Interpret it. But you can’t ESCAPE it.) “
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I really didn’t expect anything I post would please everyone in every way—after all, lookit how many are perfectly happy w/hussein, a marxist, and enough to vote for it anyway—I post for those silent ones bright enough to think for themselves and who care little to attract the attention they might get for constantly having their mouths in motion.
You remember that Keyes ran against the skunk in Chicago after the msm outed the opponent who was winning in the polls. Got those sealed divorce papers released.
Frankly, my opinion of the whole America hating crowd is not printable.
Wrong. Souter merely denied the request for an injunction; the case still awaits response from the Obama camp. No ruling has been made as to the validity of the claim itself.
What a complete waste of time and money and message.
Like Ms. Palin said, we rock-solid conservatives will find it very hard to win back public trust by trying to be “Negative Party” or “Conspiracy Party”.
What does this lawsuit and political-hit-job achieve? Fox ran this day in day out and still Mr. O won a landslide.
Cant we just get the message: People dont care about conspiracies or negativities. They want solutions to their everyday problems.
I firmly believe that its such tactics that will make it harder for us to regain the political dice.
Instead of re-grouping with a solid agenda, here we are being conspiracy theorists, negative laden and fear mongering.
I for one think there is a holistic message of purpose and solid credentials in the conservative principles. And I dont mean the Bush, McCain or Dole ones. I mean the true conservative Buckley principles.
We were foolish to have allowed our party to put forth candidates who dont gell with our message and principles. For 20 years, we have put candidates on the ballot who are “conservative light” and who dont stand for nothing:
- Bush 1 in 1988 and 1992
- Dole 1 in 1996
- Bush 2 in 2000 and 2004
- McCain in 2008
And we have got blamed for all the past 20 years of excesses that the “Conservative Light” candidates made.
Such “conservative light” candidates relied on Atwater or Rovian or Hannity tactics to win our primaries and represent our messages. And we are paying for having fallen for that trick within our very own party.
The problems of our party are not the RATS or the country. The problems is within the party. We have different versions of Conservative Light facing in and out. Its time to stack the deck, roll the dice and let the chips fall where they may.
If 2010 comes around and we are still promoting such campaigns like Berg’s and Keyes (who knew O from Chicago), we shall perform even much worser.
At the rate things are going, looks like some of us are going to seat out the next election.
If it was discovered Obama is not eligible to be President (if in fact that is true) what is the legal recourse if this is discovered under the following circumstances:
1. It is discovered before the electoral college meets in December.
2. It is discovered after they meet and elect Obama as President but before inaguration.
3. It is discovered after he is sworn in as president.
Whom would become President? Biden? Pelosi, the horror of that thought boggles the mind. McCain?
I would suspect we would be in uncharted constitutional waters.
At first I thought the Birth Certificate issue was a Red Herring put out by the Obama camp to set up the conservatives as crazies and then prove it by producing a legitimate BC showing him as being born in Hawaii. He did not do this and still resists producing the BC showing him as being born in Hawaii. There is nothing for him to gain politically at this time in not producing a legitimate BC showing his birth in Hawaii. SOMETHING IS NOT RIGHT!
The logic of Oscams Razor "one should not increase, beyond what is necessary, the number of entities required to explain anything" would indicate he is not eligible to be President of the United States
I’m sorry — was it something I said err wrote???
Greeley's Electors were then freed to vote for whomever they chose, and they did exactly that. If Obama's Electors were freed, because it was established in STATE courts that he was ineligible to run for President, they would probably coalesce around Hillary Clinton and elect her as President.
Biden would still be Vice President because he is qualified for that office, and was on the ballot for that office. See Amendment Twelve. Pelosi would have nothing to do with it, because there would be both a President and a Vice President.
Dammit,folks. Read the Constitution. Crack open a history book. These are only "uncharted waters" for those who ignore both the Constitution and our history -- like most members of the MSM. Don't descend to that level.
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You are correct about our Fore Fathers giving us a masterfull document on which to build a nation. Our troubles as a great nation occur when we ignore and violate this document at the judicial, legislative and executive levels.
As Franklin said, “A Republic if you can keep it!”
it’s a bit late i think though, should have been make an issue before the election.
Here’s a question for you.
If he skates through to Jan 20 can he pardon himself from this so he can continue to act as POTUS?
Anything is possible when you’re the new messiah.
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