Skip to comments.Heresies and Other Truths (Kathleen Parker attacks GOP evangelicals)
Posted on 11/19/2008 7:45:33 AM PST by EveningStar
As Republicans sort out the reasons for their defeat, they likely will overlook or dismiss the gorilla in the pulpit.
Three little letters, great big problem: G-O-D.
I'm bathing in holy water as I type.
To be more specific, the evangelical, right-wing, oogedy-boogedy branch of the GOP is what ails the erstwhile conservative party and will continue to afflict and marginalize its constituents if reckoning doesn't soon cometh.
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I agree 100%. But we know that there are far too many who love to categorize within the Right. They seem to live for it.
>>>>>HAHAHAHAHA!!!! Wrong. Arnie IS the exact copy of what the RINOs think a Republican should be.<<<<<
You addressed a question to me about “Arnie”.
I presume you mean Schwarzanegger (sp?), about whom I know nothing and could not possibly care any less. Not even a minor blip on my radar screen.
That’s why I said “irrelevant”.
No, sorry, I'm not an atheist so I'm a little unsure what you've been talking about.
Is that the best you can do?
>>>>>>Why dont you start that party?<<<<<<
We used to have that party and it was called “the GOP.”
Atheists are inherently dishonest.
>>>>>Without a moral foundation, fiscal conservatives WILL lose their way. Count on it.<<<<<<<
By the way, do you think that “a moral foundation” comes only, exclusively, and specifically from Protestant Christianity?
It’s important that you spell that out.
>>>>Atheists are inherently dishonest.<<<<<
Yes, yes, of course.
You already said that in post #100.
>>>>Without a belief in God, and Heaven and Hell, there is no reason whatsoever to be conservative or anything else virtuous. <<<<<<<
I could not care less about your personal religious beliefs or your religious morals.
My concern is about enshrining Protestant Christian sectarian beliefs in U.S. law, or even leaving that impression. That’s bordering on theocracy and it’s what the Taliban do.
Most importantly the Religionist impulse presents conservatism and the GOP as offshoots of Protestant Christianity. Every time I have this discussion those are exactly the arguments I hear, the same as yours.
We have done just fine as a nation with the Declaration, the Constitution, and other words from our Founders. Yes, they may have been divinely inspired, that’s quite another discussion.
But note well that those works are entirely about secular governance mixed with a profound revulsion of aristocracy and theocracy.
Why? Because you know what is best and others don’t?
Biblical Christianity is the only guide.
If it is in the Bible, that is good enough guide for me. Is it good enough guide for you? Anything else is man made.
>>>>Biblical Christianity is the only guide.<<<<<<
Biblical Christianity is the only guide to American government?
That’s an interesting concept.
And it is stupifyingly wrong about the Founders and American history, not to mention the entirety of Western civilization.
I’m surprised you’d say something so ridiculous in a public forum. But I suppose you’re proud about it.
RINOs have had defacto control over the Republican party for the last few election cycles. All this public sniping indicates RINOs really don't want to do the hard work of developing some sort of consensus with religious conservatives - or, for that matter, fiscal conservatives like myself. I guess the “Big Tent” doesn't include us unless we abandon our core principles - which personally I have no interest in doing - so why even talk about us at all?
I suggest she and her cohorts’ time would be better spent getting off their collective butts and getting that new base.
Will be interesting to see what groups, if any, they pry away from the Democrats. Time to get out the popcorn.
If you don’t understand that this country was founded on Biblical Christian principles, that just neatly explains the problem.
It is you who have made a fool of yourself on a public form. The Left has successfully indoctrinated you into the school of never knowing the foundation of real freedom.
There are plenty more of you out there. This nation will be enslaved because people like you will reject reality.
Mrs Parker: What percentage of folks in US believe in God? What percentage go to church?
>>>>If you dont understand that this country was founded on Biblical Christian principles, that just neatly explains the problem.<<<<<<
This is such a stupid assertion that you have to be trolling.
Typical name calling.
No wonder that the Republican party is losing.
I said the assertion was stupid.
That’s not “name calling”.
Kathleen Parker is best ignored. She never has had much interesting to say, but now that she is in “martyr mode”, she has even less.
Why do you even bother reading her, much less posting her?
I’ve been reading Ms. Parker for a few years now and have long detected a fondness for government bureaucracy and a very subtle dislike for the grassroots of the Republican party.
However, in the last couple of months she’s really shred her mask and revealed herself to be an anti-Christian bigot and an open hater of your everyday sort of person.
Her articles are full of mockery, but there is no real intellectual nuance, so she should refrain from her self-adulation.
This is such a stupid assertion that you have to be trolling.
And so just what does this mean...
"We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights,..."
Biblical Christianity. Sigh. But you know what the Declaration of Independence says. It just isn't important to you.
“We used to have that party and it was called “the GOP.””
That isn’t an answer to what I asked. It’s not even true, but it’s still not an answer.
I think you wouldn’t start that party because it would fail. You want to call it the fiscal conservative party, but it would really be the secular humanist conservative party.
You’re not ranting about conservative Evangelicals ‘fiscal’ beliefs you’re ranting against their religious beliefs. Maybe they don’t like your political atheism? Maybe ‘you’ should have to get out of the tent? And KP?