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GOP congressman: 'It is not your money'
World Net Daily ^ | By Joe Kovacs

Posted on 11/19/2008 6:17:04 PM PST by Desron13

Cavuto asked Knollenberg: "When the housing industry CEOs come to you and say, 'You know, [if] we go under and all the ancillary businesses – the dishwasher manufacturers, the washer-and-dryer manufacturers, the Lowe's and the Home Depots that vastly depend on our being alive and vibrant – if we go under, there's hell to pay. And then the textile manufacturer comes to you and says, 'If we go down, there's hell to pay.' And on and on and on we go. Where do you draw the line with our money?"

"It is not your money," said Knollenberg.

Cavuto screamed back, "It is! It is taxpayers money!"

Knollenberg claimed dealers are not selling cars right now because "there's no credit to get."

He explained, "If we could just remove that problem, and this is what we're trying to do, then we'd be in the position to sell cars."

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government; News/Current Events; US: Michigan
KEYWORDS: 110th; bailout; cavuto; congressman; economy; federalspending; gop; government; knollenberg; pork; porkulus; taxes
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Blood started shooting from my eyes when I saw this. The sheer arrogance is simply astounding. This from a so called Republican. These are the same looters that claim that the party has to become more "centrist". I think I just developed a spontaneous bleeding ulcer.
1 posted on 11/19/2008 6:17:04 PM PST by Desron13
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To: Desron13
"It is not your money," said Knollenberg.

And the seat you're occupying won't be yours anymore in 2010, RINO!

2 posted on 11/19/2008 6:20:59 PM PST by rabscuttle385 ("If this be treason, then make the most of it!" --Patrick Henry)
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To: rabscuttle385

He was defeated. Thank the Lord.


3 posted on 11/19/2008 6:24:00 PM PST by arkady_renko
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To: Desron13

Yeah, it is pretty hard to believe, but this guy was from MI after all. Further, it appears that he was just replaced by a Democrat from a district the Republicans had held since forever. He has probably been a RHINO for years.

Since 2005, I have felt more and more like I was living in the twilight zone. The country at this stage bears little resemblence to the one I grew up in. The insanity gets worse every day. It could be this is just part of getting older, but I think its more than that.


4 posted on 11/19/2008 6:24:06 PM PST by rbg81 (DRAIN THE SWAMP!!)
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To: Desron13

Oh, I missed a good one today! Thanks for posting. The arrogance of that Rino is palpable, even through the article. Cavuto is not one to back down, he’s a smart man with a great show.


5 posted on 11/19/2008 6:24:11 PM PST by fortunecookie
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To: Desron13
"It is not your money," said Knollenberg.

I'm contemplating taking steps to no longer pay taxes after watching this. Outrageous!!

6 posted on 11/19/2008 6:24:46 PM PST by KoRn
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To: Desron13

700 billion is in play. Anyone and everyone has an obligation to get some.

Even the taxpayer.

Go get yours.

You really don’t think government or your fellow taxpayers care do you - look who they voted into office.


7 posted on 11/19/2008 6:27:48 PM PST by edcoil (Looking for a new tagline - do you have one I can use?)
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To: Desron13
Almost daily, Neil feels my pain. He was almost speechless at the bail out and now with the automotive bail out.

The only decent, thoughtful personality on Fox any more, IMO.

8 posted on 11/19/2008 6:28:53 PM PST by llevrok (I missed doing drugs in the '60's but won't in my 60's)
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To: Desron13
so called Republican.

He may call himself a Republican but I have to say there are some really (I'll be nice here) bad ones. And I do have an ulcer that I'm sure has been brought on by all this so-called election.

I feel like I have been discriminated against and there is no one to fight for my rights.

9 posted on 11/19/2008 6:29:13 PM PST by TribalPrincess2U
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To: rbg81

If we stand true to our principles, eventually the country will come around.

At least, that worked for the Marxists. Look at Obama.


10 posted on 11/19/2008 6:29:30 PM PST by cmj328 (Filibuster FOCA or lose reelection)
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To: KoRn; All
Tell this &%!@#$ what you think by mashing this button.

I personally said a few things to him that might endanger my posting privs if I repeat them here.

11 posted on 11/19/2008 6:29:44 PM PST by perfect stranger (Nobama)
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To: edcoil
700 billion is in play.

That's just an appetizer.

12 posted on 11/19/2008 6:30:36 PM PST by Mojave (http://www.americanbacklash.com/)
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To: rbg81
The insanity gets worse every day. It could be this is just part of getting older, but I think its more than that.

It's a lot more than that. It's NEA- and media-driven social decay.

It's the Marxists, destroying everything they touch, defiling what they cannot destroy, and defaming what they cannot defile. It's the Dresden School at work, through American channels of instruction and information, jamming us with a propagandistic death-message stream intended to derange, demoralize, disarm, and kill.

13 posted on 11/19/2008 6:31:12 PM PST by lentulusgracchus ("Whatever." -- sinkspur)
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To: Desron13

Neil Cavuto has a lot of sense, it’s refreshing to watch him fight the good fight. Too bad he seems to be the exception these days.


14 posted on 11/19/2008 6:33:34 PM PST by Aquamarine
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To: Desron13
WTH? if i hear this LIE one more time my head will explode. there is PLENTY of credit to be had, if you have a good to excellent credit rating, and the ability to PAY. hell, you can have a moderate credit rating and still get a credit card, you will just pay a higher interest rate!
what he is purposing for the car industry is what fanny and freddie did to the mortgage business. no money down, bad credit, no credit, no problem, sign here.....
oh it will sell cars, lots of them and in a few years we will have to bail out all the deadbeats that purchased escalades and hummers. yet another credit crisis waiting to happen. have they not learned a damn thing from this one?
every day i got to toss out some bank seeking me out to offer me credit. if you cant get a loan, it is probably due to very poor credit or a inability to pay. when did having a brand new car become a right?!!!
15 posted on 11/19/2008 6:34:37 PM PST by CanadianMusherinMI (drill baby drill/mine baby mine!)
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To: Desron13

Knollenberg claimed dealers are not selling cars right now because “there’s no credit to get.”

I thought the latest give away of MY MONEY solved thsi problem.


16 posted on 11/19/2008 6:35:52 PM PST by ZULU (Non nobis, non nobis Domine, sed nomini tuo da gloriam. God, guts and guns made America great.)
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To: ZULU

You just need to give some more money. Come on, give it up.


17 posted on 11/19/2008 6:37:17 PM PST by Aquamarine
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To: Desron13

I phoned both of his offices this morning. His Washington office hung up on me after they asked whether I lived in his district and I admitted that I didn’t. His Farmington Hills office was much more cordial and pretended to take my contact info.


18 posted on 11/19/2008 6:37:25 PM PST by buccaneer81 (Bob Taft has soiled the family name for the next century.)
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To: rbg81
Yeah, the twilight zone in so many ways. People dumbed
down by worthless schools that cost more and more, voted
for an empty suit. Empty Suit can't find anyone to serve
in ‘his’ cabinet except BilHil retreads, and it's change!
I feel like the inmates are running the asylum. Or just
maybe society is coming apart piece by piece.
19 posted on 11/19/2008 6:38:13 PM PST by jusduat (wondering,questioning,searching)
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To: edcoil

Mark Levin says it’s not $700 billion... it’s $3.4 trillion. Why not? A trillion here, a trillion there, pretty soon...


20 posted on 11/19/2008 6:38:25 PM PST by TenthAmendmentChampion (Don't blame me, I voted for John McCain and Sarah Palin. Well, for Sarah Palin, anyway.)
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To: Desron13
The truth of "fiat" money. It ain't your money, if you stay honest. And if you are dishonest you get as much as you want, as long as you align with those in power. Fiat money is political money, money created for political purposes.

The Rep was over-the-top and no longer representing those citizens who granted him his agency of being a member of the US House -- but -- he was honest. Honesty is important. Don't deny the fact of matter, it now is as he said it is.

Life is full of choices. The choice to be honest, at many eras and times in human history has meant pretty rough times. Especially in comparison to those who seem to have so much -- gained by force, and not fair market contract.

Fiat money, fit for a a culture of thievery -- yours is mine and mine is mine. And that is what the bailout is playing out to be.

Still, honesty is the only real gold. Stay honest, be honest. My only advice to give at times like this.

21 posted on 11/19/2008 6:39:32 PM PST by bvw
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To: Desron13

Good catch. Thanks for posting.


22 posted on 11/19/2008 6:40:50 PM PST by Ghost of Philip Marlowe (Camelot? JFK hated communism. Obama is a communist.)
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To: arkady_renko

This jerk an like thinking have 2 go.

But new so called conservatives will be elected.

We need a term limit on conservatives, or they turn on us


23 posted on 11/19/2008 6:41:08 PM PST by reefdiver (How do you keep the Conservative a Conservative, in Washington DC ?)
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To: Desron13

Thought the veins in Cavuto’s neck were about to explode hearing that ridiculous statement. If he had any sense he’d regret appearing today but the man resides in cuckoo land.


24 posted on 11/19/2008 6:41:21 PM PST by StarFan
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To: CanadianMusherinMI
"every day i got to toss out some bank seeking me out to offer me credit. if you cant get a loan, it is probably due to very poor credit or a inability to pay. when did having a brand new car become a right?!!!"

I have never owned a credit card. In my opinion, they are one of the great scourges of the modern world. If you cant do with a debit card (and I'm starting to worry about those), you need to reduce your expenses. PERIOD!

25 posted on 11/19/2008 6:43:33 PM PST by Desron13 (If you constantly vote between the lesser of two evils then evil is your ultimate destination.)
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To: Desron13
The fed culture is so unbelievably wasteful and all consuming.

Its ALWAYS BOOM TIME IN DC, and for all of their connected friends.

Have you been to DC lately?

There are buildings going up all over the place and people are walking around with smiles on their faces worry free.

The only sane career path at this point is to get on with somebody doing long term federal contracts and buy lots of gold.

These DC politicians truly are the enemy of the working man.

26 posted on 11/19/2008 6:48:14 PM PST by Rome2000 (Peace is not an option)
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To: KoRn

What if we all didn’t pay taxes for 1 year...what could they do? they can’t jail us all.


27 posted on 11/19/2008 7:20:43 PM PST by vidbizz
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To: Desron13

Neil is by far the best of FNC, next is Megn kelly on at 9-11am. they really grill dems on these issues, without the canned Hannity talking points. They really press them using facts and figures.


28 posted on 11/19/2008 7:21:06 PM PST by sickoflibs (Tired of loss and humiliation?, Then what do we stand for?)
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To: vidbizz
"What if we all didn’t pay taxes for 1 year...what could they do? they can’t jail us all."

I don't think it would bother them much. They seem to be doing just fine spending money they don't have right now. I don't see how us not paying taxes would change anything.

29 posted on 11/19/2008 7:22:36 PM PST by KoRn
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To: arkady_renko

There are some who would argue that it’s always better to have an R in a congressional seat than a D.

Personally, I think that wolves in sheep’s clothing (rinos) are much more dangerous than wolves who don’t hide the fact that they’re wolves (dems).


30 posted on 11/19/2008 7:23:15 PM PST by Zero Sum (Liberalism: The damage ends up being a thousand times the benefit! (apologies to Rabbi Benny Lau))
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To: Desron13
Knollenberg claimed dealers are not selling cars right now because "there's no credit to get."

This revolting little nitwit is typical of the idiots we are electing to government at all levels these days. His tiny little mind just can't come to grips with the concept that the money is gone and there is no one left to borrow any more from. He has no understanding of how wealth is created and grown. As far as I can tell, he believes that the serfs of America are a never ending stream of money for his and his elitist cronies benefit. Now I have to stop posting on my own thread. If I don't stop thinking about this, I'll need dentures by morning.

31 posted on 11/19/2008 7:24:19 PM PST by Desron13 (If you constantly vote between the lesser of two evils then evil is your ultimate destination.)
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To: Aquamarine

Yep...since many of us won’t trade in and go into deeper debt they are demanding we still make a car payment whether we buy a car or not. What’s next? Insurance on no car?


32 posted on 11/19/2008 7:24:48 PM PST by CindyDawg (Lord, please bless America)
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To: Desron13; grellis; AuntB; Beagle8U; cripplecreek; Impy; Norman Bates; bamahead; ExTexasRedhead

I don’t mind that this Republican was defeated. Hopefully, the GOP can find someone much better to regain the district.


33 posted on 11/19/2008 7:28:23 PM PST by Clintonfatigued (If Islam conquers the world, the Earth will be at peace because the human race will be killed off.)
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To: cmj328
If we stand true to our principles, eventually the country will come around.

I wouldn't count on it. No - we have to reach them. Surrounded by this liberal MSM they won't just discover conservatism on their own. We need politicins who can speak and persuade. And we need evangelists not choir directors.

34 posted on 11/19/2008 7:29:31 PM PST by plain talk
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To: Desron13
we have 2, both bankcards, but we only use them for a major purchase, but mostly we have them in case of a emergency. we live frugally, if we cant afford to pay cash we dont buy. nearly every one i know is the same way. it is not a hard way to live!
i will say it bugs my arse to no end that we live within our means and now have to bail out credit card holders who did not have enough common sense to stay on budget. worse they get to keep the big screen tv's (of which we dont own) and all types of frivolous purchases!
i have not been able to give up my checks yet for a debit card. what are your concerns regarding those?
35 posted on 11/19/2008 7:31:14 PM PST by CanadianMusherinMI (drill baby drill/mine baby mine!)
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To: Desron13
"It is not your money," said Knollenberg.

Cavuto screamed back, "It is! It is taxpayers money!"

That is a stretch. Cavuto did not scream. Can't recall that I've ever heard Cavuto scream in many years of watching.

37 posted on 11/19/2008 7:32:36 PM PST by JustaDumbBlonde (America: Home of The Free Because of The Brave)
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To: CanadianMusherinMI
They don't want to make buying a car a right. The want to make making and selling a car a right.

No one in his right mind would finance a new car even if he can get credit out the rear, only to have it repo'd within a year when he loses his job, and then be responsible for the difference between what he owes and what some wholesaler bought it for.

What the Big 3 want is sales like they had before the mortgage crisis and gas crisis. Who doesn't? Not happening. Ever.

38 posted on 11/19/2008 7:33:13 PM PST by informavoracious (It's after midnight, I'm FReepwalking...)
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To: rbg81

Too funny, I too feel this way. And then I think, thank God I won’t be around when this whole country goes to hell. But then my grandkids will be, so sad.


39 posted on 11/19/2008 7:33:53 PM PST by ohiogrammy (12)
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To: CanadianMusherinMI

What credit card holders are you bailing out??


40 posted on 11/19/2008 7:35:30 PM PST by informavoracious (It's after midnight, I'm FReepwalking...)
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To: rabscuttle385

It is not his any more. He was defeated by a ‘Rat. The first ‘Rat to hold the seat since 1893. At least we got rid of a RINO.


41 posted on 11/19/2008 7:36:35 PM PST by Blood of Tyrants (Obama is the Antichrist.)
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To: Aquamarine

Don’t bite my head off, but Sean Hannity fights too!
Did you hear that idiot on his show today trying to say it’s all conservatives’ fault because NPR and Air America et al
continue to FAILFAILFAIL and it’s just not fair! [insert big fat WAH!! here] So naturally the only fair thing to do is reinstate the Fairness Doctrine?!?

I truly felt like I was in the twilight zone listening to the exchange. SThe crazies really ARE running the asylum!!!


42 posted on 11/19/2008 7:36:37 PM PST by pillut48 (CJ in TX --"God help us all, and God help America!!" --my new mantra for the next 4 years)
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To: bvw
The truth of "fiat" money. It ain't your money, if you stay honest.

Ayn Rand, call your office.

L

43 posted on 11/19/2008 7:36:47 PM PST by Lurker ("America is at that awkward stage. " Claire Wolfe, call your office.)
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To: Desron13
"there's no credit to get"

Only to people with good credit so I guess in his world that means 'there's no credit to get' because banks don't want to lend money to deadbeats.

44 posted on 11/19/2008 7:41:01 PM PST by kcvl
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To: CanadianMusherinMI
"i will say it bugs my arse to no end that we live within our means and now have to bail out credit card holders who did not have enough common sense to stay on budget."

There it is in a nutshell CanadianMusherinMI. Good for you that you don't habitually use credit. I live a relatively simple life style myself but I like it that way and I am beholden to no man and am quite comfortable. As for the debit cards; I mainly worry about my every purchase being tracked and how that information could be used by the Marxist cretins in government. I think I'm going to go all cash in the near future.

45 posted on 11/19/2008 7:46:47 PM PST by Desron13 (If you constantly vote between the lesser of two evils then evil is your ultimate destination.)
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To: TenthAmendmentChampion

Ever read the book the Graying of America?

It is more like 70 trillion.


46 posted on 11/19/2008 7:47:31 PM PST by edcoil (Looking for a new tagline - do you have one I can use?)
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To: Desron13

Joseph "Joe" Knollenberg is a politician from the U.S. state of Michigan, representing Michigan's 9th congressional district located in Oakland County, a wealthy suburban county north of Detroit.

On September 29th, 2008, he voted against the Emergency Economic Stabilization Act of 2008.

47 posted on 11/19/2008 7:47:36 PM PST by kcvl
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To: Clintonfatigued

There are definitely at least 60 seats the Dems hold than can be taken.

If they vote for too much of the Obama agenda, they’ll be vulnerable.

We have no use for liberal Republicans.


48 posted on 11/19/2008 7:48:04 PM PST by Boiling Pots (I'd be laughing if it wasn't going to be so expensive.)
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To: CanadianMusherinMI
WTH? if i hear this LIE one more time my head will explode. there is PLENTY of credit to be had, if you have a good to excellent credit rating, and the ability to PAY

EXACTLY!

49 posted on 11/19/2008 7:49:19 PM PST by kcvl
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To: Desron13
This is why the Republicans took a whoopin on election day.

Big buisness, globalist, elites just dripping with arrogance.

Not that the Democrats are any better, they just keep touting mantras that appeal to the gimmiewannagottahave crowd.

50 posted on 11/19/2008 7:50:59 PM PST by servantboy777
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