Skip to comments.The game's afoot, Watson!( SCOTUS Process Obama Proof of Birth)
Posted on 11/20/2008 8:28:49 AM PST by Candor7
On December 5, 2008, only ten days before the electoral college votes, the nine Justices of the U.S. Supreme Court will meet in private to review Obama's citizenship status.
Leo Donofrio's case, "Leo C. Donofrio, v. Nina Mitchell Wells, Secretary of State of the State of New Jersey, United States Supreme Court Docket No. 08A407," regarding Obama's citizenship has reached a new level. The case has been "distributed for conference."
This docketing today by the court should send ripples of fear through the Obama camp. Obama has been proceeding at lightening speed to put together a cabinet and take possession of the White House with the hope that he won't have to answer the question of whether or not he was "at birth" a "natural born citizen."
Every major news network, print and cable news like FOX, CNN and MSNBC, have ignored all the court cases challenging Obama's eligibility as sore losers or conspiracy theories. It might be in their best interest at this point to report this critically important meeting to take place on December 5, 2008, or lose what little credibility they have left.
If four of the nine Justices vote to hear the case in full review, oral argument may be ordered. The conference is scheduled for December 5, 2008, ten days before the meeting of the Electoral College
The case originally sought, pre-election, to have the names of Barack Obama, John McCain, and Roger Calero removed from New Jersey ballots, and for a stay of the "national election" pending Supreme Court review of whether those candidates were eligible under the Constitution as natural born Citizens, as is required by Article 2, Section 1, Clause 5 of the Constitution of the United States.
Leo Donofrio brought his case from a lower New Jersey court to the NJ Supreme Court -- was denied -- and then he filed an emergency stay application in the United States Supreme Court on Nov. 3, 2008, before the Honorable Associate Justice David Souter. Justice Souter denied the emergency stay application on Nov. 6.
Leo Donofrio renewed the application, as per Supreme Court Rule 22.4, to the Honorable Associate Justice Clarence Thomas by way of Express mail on Nov. 14. The application arrived at the Supreme Court on Nov. 17 and was submitted directly to Justice Thomas.
On Nov. 19, the case was docketed for full conference of all nine Justices and scheduled for December 5, 2008. It is not known at this time the exact details of how the case came to be "DISTRIBUTED for Conference".
Background on "The Justices Conference" is discussed as follows by the Supreme Court Historical Society:
"No outsider enters the room during conference. The junior Associate Justice acts as "doorkeeper," sending for reference material, for instance, and receiving it at the door...
Five minutes before conference time, 9:30 or 10 a.m., the Justices are summoned. They exchange ritual handshakes and settle down at the long table. The Chief sits at the east end; the other Justices sit at places they have chosen in order of their seniority
The Chief Justice opens the discussion, summarizing each case. The senior Associate Justice speaks next, and comment passes down the line. To be accepted for review, a case needs only four votes, fewer than the majority required for a decision on the case itself. Counsel for the litigants are directed to submit their printed briefs so that each Justice has a set several weeks before argument.
It's true...I'm not seeing it anywhere on any major media.
It would serve them right if this grew some long legs and blew up in their faces. The media has concelaed an alarming amount of information on Obama.
It'll certainly be hugh and series!
Would someone kindly explain to this rube (me) why this story is not receiving any media attention be it talk radio or Fox News (MSM I can understand)?
Could you please add me to your ping list?
If I am not already there, me too. Or me 18,791 or whatever it comes to!
Certainly Obama has known and probably many other Dems in high places as well. They were running a gamble. No need to disclose if he doesn't win since presenting fraudulent documents might have resulted in his removal from the Senate; and if he does win, the likelihood of any sufficient challenge would be small. But sustaining the "will of the people" argument does not hold water. There would be a significant number of people who would not have voted for Obama if they had known (thanks, MSM) that he was not a natural born citizen. Not a majority, but enough to have turned the election. Oh those nasty details of that pesky little document---the Constitution.
Fear. Jay Severin,here in Boston, did quite a lenghty segment on the bc a few weeks ago.
~ possible Constitutional crisis placemarker ~
My take on why the talk radio are staying away is that they are afraid, yes believe you me, they will be accused of precipitating tremendous violence that can culminate in civil war.
The threats of the left and their allies to riot for "stealing the third election" especially from the first elected black president, are formidable tools for censorship.
Thanks, TLI, you’re added. Since you weren’t on the list a minute ago, here’s the last ping; you might be able to help, too.
Yeah, like Roe v Wade.
Surprise! I happen to see this (or Alan Keyes lawsuit) covered on a Spanish TV station. I believe it was Univision. So far no major English outlets yet....
The Ohio governor needs to go ahead and name a replacement senator as quickly as possible, just in case Obama is denied the presidency and wants his old job back.
IMHO, I continue to believe we are far, far better off without the LSM putting their heavy left slant on this. He would be tried and exonerated by the media long before it got to SCOTUS.
If the media were all over this right now, and let’s fantasize for a minute that they were “Fair and balanced”, riots and civil unrest would already be happening in the urban streets...influencing public opinion AND SCOTUS to disregard our constitution.
Let it play out below the radar and if we get what we SHOULD out of SCOTUS, the media will get on board. Just make sure your ammo is dry!!!!!
His lawyers have done nothing but stonewall,his media friends have tried to ridicule all questioners;he IS a fraud.
I don't believe any riots would be worse than those we've seen before,in which fools tore up their own neighborhoods.
I too have thought people in high places have known something was not right about all of this. I have looked into the eyes of Obama and on the night of his Chicago celebration I saw not a panic of sorts — not the deer in t headlights look but a pensive look. Another look earlier in the campaign was “mean eyes”.
The U.S. Constitution must win. This is non-negotiable.
Let’s find out what has so far been hidden from public knowledge.
You mean, except for the morons who voted for Obamessiah(see them here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mm1KOBMg1Y8), there are STILL people who believe in the credibility of the MSM??
In which case he fails the natural born citizen requirement.
He has very mean eyes, and I never saw what people found “charming” about him. But be that as it may, I’m betting he’s not the only one who knows he’s not legit. I’m sure the Dems - some of them, at least - were probably aware of this and took all the precautions way in advance, not only refusing to release the birth certificate but sealing every single document relating to him (college transcripts, etc.).
We know absolutely nothing about this man. Oh, wait, the only thing we do know is that he lied on his IL Bar application, when he said he had never used any other names than the ones under which he registered (Barack Hussein Obama). He had used both other first names and last names, of course, but I guess it’s ok in his case...
The law is not my bailiwick, but,
it appears that the Constitution is pretty straightforward on eligibility requirements.
If the Justices on the USSC ignore the clearly defined requirements on this issue,
then it seems logical to conclude
that the Constitution is now to be considered invalid-by all the Justices, including Roberts,Scalia, Alito and Thomas.
If the USSC punts on this and down the line,
evidence surfaces clearly showing that Obama was not a natural born citizen,
the reputation and integrity of the USSC will be damaged and the future of the Constitution will be in doubt.
Is this a risk that Roberts,Scalia, Alito and Thomas are willing to take ?
PLEASE! Don’t do that to Ohio. We have enough problems. Obama was an Illinois senator.
And in this case which federal statute will they be interpreting?
And completely silent on who checks that eligibility and how it is done.
There’s no rush that I see in determining this question, although it would be better for the country if it were settled before he’s sworn in. (Keeping in mind past Democrats and their preference for their own ambition over concern for America: Clinton, Gore, Kerry, et al.)
If it is fact that Obama committed a fraud on the country by failing to disclose that he was born in Kenya, he would be disqualified and his election would be rescinded, or some time in the future he would be removed from office.
“We are a nation of laws, not men.” US v. Nixon, 1974
§ 1401. Nationals and citizens of United States at birth
The following shall be nationals and citizens of the United States at birth:
(a) a person born in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof;
(b) a person born in the United States to a member of an Indian, Eskimo, Aleutian, or other aboriginal tribe: Provided, That the granting of citizenship under this subsection shall not in any manner impair or otherwise affect the right of such person to tribal or other property;
(c) a person born outside of the United States and its outlying possessions of parents both of whom are citizens of the United States and one of whom has had a residence in the United States or one of its outlying possessions, prior to the birth of such person;
(d) a person born outside of the United States and its outlying possessions of parents one of whom is a citizen of the United States who has been physically present in the United States or one of its outlying possessions for a continuous period of one year prior to the birth of such person, and the other of whom is a national, but not a citizen of the United States;
(e) a person born in an outlying possession of the United States of parents one of whom is a citizen of the United States who has been physically present in the United States or one of its outlying possessions for a continuous period of one year at any time prior to the birth of such person;
I think you meant, “ascended straight from hell” didn’t you?
They wanted Roe v. Wade really, really badly, so they miscalculated on that one.
Recently, Ruth Bader Ginsberg actually said that she now regrets the decision. Not, of course, that she doesn’t completely support the abortion “right” or will ever vote against it, but that she now thinks a more gradualist approach would have been more effective for the Culture of Death in the long run.
So you guys are fully prepared for President Biden?
Regardless of the outcome, if the supremes rule on this, it would be one of the most fascinating cases in supreme court history. I could only imagine if they ruled he was ineligible, the carnage on the streets would be enormous!
Some have said earlier there was a slightly different law in effect in 1961. Does anybody know if this is true?
That alone is worth the price of admission.
Calif. Supreme Court reviews Gay Marriage Proposition 8 . . . So WHY NOT THIS by SCOTUS ?
Not a Big Deal . . I Had to show MY birth Certificate to get my last Job.
>> "what the heck?" <<
Just blew in from the tin foil hat forum?
Chill. The handshakes are just a formality.
Who would further investigate this matter and remove the Messiah from office once he gets in? His own corrupt Attorney General? The loyal US Attorneys he will put everywhere, just like clinton? The leftist judges he appoints? A newly leftist SCOTUS? A Democrat congress? A complicit media?
It would take a civil war to get him removed from office. And if he keeps behaving the way he has done so far, there may well be one, unfortunately.
Never going to happen. Obama could send them a birth certificate written in crayon and they would accept it. His Kenyan grandmother could show up with a film of his birth and pan out the window to show Lions and elephants in the distance and it will not matter!! They know it would cause the country to explode. Plus, Obama isn’t stupid he has a nice fake ready to go and the SCOTUS will rubberstamp it.
And what, exactly, is unconstitutional about that law? The Constitution clearly gives Congress the authority to pass naturalization laws in Section, Article 8.
He didn’t run for President and that’s not what the Constitution says.
Its about being naturally born in the USA.
Now post the text as it read in 1961.
It HAS to break into the MSM.
“Counsel for the litigants are directed to submit their printed briefs so that each Justice has a set SEVERAL WEEKS BEFORE argument.”
“Several weeks”??? The Electors vote in 9 days from their conference date, and Jan. 20th is just a little over 6 weeks away. The longer they wait the worse it could be.
Its actually humorous. US journalism is deader than last weeks doormouse.
We fill the gap!
With any luck, a heavily spun version will be in the MSM tommorrow.
If they can't vote for Obama I don't think they'll be voting for McCain. You think they'll install Hillary?
“...explain that he wasnt really born in Hawaii, but descended straight from heaven.”
The Immaculate Deception