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The game's afoot, Watson!( SCOTUS Process Obama Proof of Birth)
The Obama File Latest News ^ | 11/20/08 | Beckwith

Posted on 11/20/2008 8:28:49 AM PST by Candor7

On December 5, 2008, only ten days before the electoral college votes, the nine Justices of the U.S. Supreme Court will meet in private to review Obama's citizenship status.

Leo Donofrio's case, "Leo C. Donofrio, v. Nina Mitchell Wells, Secretary of State of the State of New Jersey, United States Supreme Court Docket No. 08A407," regarding Obama's citizenship has reached a new level. The case has been "distributed for conference."

This docketing today by the court should send ripples of fear through the Obama camp. Obama has been proceeding at lightening speed to put together a cabinet and take possession of the White House with the hope that he won't have to answer the question of whether or not he was "at birth" a "natural born citizen."

Every major news network, print and cable news like FOX, CNN and MSNBC, have ignored all the court cases challenging Obama's eligibility as sore losers or conspiracy theories. It might be in their best interest at this point to report this critically important meeting to take place on December 5, 2008, or lose what little credibility they have left.

If four of the nine Justices vote to hear the case in full review, oral argument may be ordered. The conference is scheduled for December 5, 2008, ten days before the meeting of the Electoral College…

The case originally sought, pre-election, to have the names of Barack Obama, John McCain, and Roger Calero removed from New Jersey ballots, and for a stay of the "national election" pending Supreme Court review of whether those candidates were eligible under the Constitution as natural born Citizens, as is required by Article 2, Section 1, Clause 5 of the Constitution of the United States.

Leo Donofrio brought his case from a lower New Jersey court to the NJ Supreme Court -- was denied -- and then he filed an emergency stay application in the United States Supreme Court on Nov. 3, 2008, before the Honorable Associate Justice David Souter. Justice Souter denied the emergency stay application on Nov. 6.

Leo Donofrio renewed the application, as per Supreme Court Rule 22.4, to the Honorable Associate Justice Clarence Thomas by way of Express mail on Nov. 14. The application arrived at the Supreme Court on Nov. 17 and was submitted directly to Justice Thomas.

On Nov. 19, the case was docketed for full conference of all nine Justices and scheduled for December 5, 2008. It is not known at this time the exact details of how the case came to be "DISTRIBUTED for Conference".

Background on "The Justices Conference" is discussed as follows by the Supreme Court Historical Society:

"No outsider enters the room during conference. The junior Associate Justice acts as "doorkeeper," sending for reference material, for instance, and receiving it at the door...

Five minutes before conference time, 9:30 or 10 a.m., the Justices are summoned. They exchange ritual handshakes and settle down at the long table. The Chief sits at the east end; the other Justices sit at places they have chosen in order of their seniority…

The Chief Justice opens the discussion, summarizing each case. The senior Associate Justice speaks next, and comment passes down the line. To be accepted for review, a case needs only four votes, fewer than the majority required for a decision on the case itself. Counsel for the litigants are directed to submit their printed briefs so that each Justice has a set several weeks before argument.


TOPICS: Extended News; Politics/Elections; US: Hawaii
KEYWORDS: bho2008; birthcertificate; birthcertificategate; certifigate; colb; conference; madeinkenya; notmadeinusa; obama; obamatransitionfile; obamatruthfile; process; scotus; thomas
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To: Candor7
The MSM have been avoiding this story as if it is an infectious plague!

It's true...I'm not seeing it anywhere on any major media.

They're reprehensible.

It would serve them right if this grew some long legs and blew up in their faces. The media has concelaed an alarming amount of information on Obama.

51 posted on 11/20/2008 9:08:34 AM PST by Allegra
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To: Beckwith; LucyT; Fred Nerks; Calpernia; pissant; Polarik; MeekOneGOP; Grampa Dave; ntnychik; ...

52 posted on 11/20/2008 9:09:11 AM PST by PhilDragoo (Hussein: Islamo-Commie from Kenya)
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To: surrey
it will be beyond huge

It'll certainly be hugh and series!

53 posted on 11/20/2008 9:09:24 AM PST by melancholy
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To: Candor7

Would someone kindly explain to this rube (me) why this story is not receiving any media attention be it talk radio or Fox News (MSM I can understand)?


54 posted on 11/20/2008 9:10:17 AM PST by TommyTrojan
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To: LucyT

Could you please add me to your ping list?

Thanks.


55 posted on 11/20/2008 9:11:15 AM PST by melancholy
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To: Allegra
"Well that's newspapers, ma'am. You can fill volumes with what you DON'T read in them." Sgt. Muldoon "The Green Berets" starring John Wayne.

L

56 posted on 11/20/2008 9:12:01 AM PST by Lurker ("America is at that awkward stage. " Claire Wolfe, call your office.)
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To: LucyT
You’re added to the ping list.

If I am not already there, me too. Or me 18,791 or whatever it comes to!

Thanks!

57 posted on 11/20/2008 9:14:02 AM PST by TLI ( ITINERIS IMPENDEO VALHALLA)
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To: housedeep
If it turns out that obama and axelrod have known all along that he is not a us born citizen, then I think they should be tried as criminals.

Certainly Obama has known and probably many other Dems in high places as well. They were running a gamble. No need to disclose if he doesn't win since presenting fraudulent documents might have resulted in his removal from the Senate; and if he does win, the likelihood of any sufficient challenge would be small. But sustaining the "will of the people" argument does not hold water. There would be a significant number of people who would not have voted for Obama if they had known (thanks, MSM) that he was not a natural born citizen. Not a majority, but enough to have turned the election. Oh those nasty details of that pesky little document---the Constitution.

58 posted on 11/20/2008 9:15:25 AM PST by Faith
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To: TommyTrojan

Fear. Jay Severin,here in Boston, did quite a lenghty segment on the bc a few weeks ago.


59 posted on 11/20/2008 9:16:30 AM PST by surrey
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To: Candor7

~ possible Constitutional crisis placemarker ~


60 posted on 11/20/2008 9:17:20 AM PST by Liberty Valance (Keep a simple manner for a happy life ;o)
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To: TommyTrojan
Would someone kindly explain to this rube (me) why this story is not receiving any media attention be it talk radio or Fox News (MSM I can understand)?

My take on why the talk radio are staying away is that they are afraid, yes believe you me, they will be accused of precipitating tremendous violence that can culminate in civil war.

The threats of the left and their allies to riot for "stealing the third election" especially from the first elected black president, are formidable tools for censorship.

61 posted on 11/20/2008 9:17:27 AM PST by melancholy
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To: TLI

Thanks, TLI, you’re added. Since you weren’t on the list a minute ago, here’s the last ping; you might be able to help, too.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2135131/posts?page=165#165


62 posted on 11/20/2008 9:20:46 AM PST by LucyT (.......................Don't go wobbly now.......................)
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To: Cicero
...Usually SCOTUS tries to avoid controversial decisions that will lead to political firestorms....

Yeah, like Roe v Wade.

63 posted on 11/20/2008 9:23:48 AM PST by FReepaholic (Diversity = .45 .357 .223 .38 ...)
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To: Candor7

Surprise! I happen to see this (or Alan Keyes lawsuit) covered on a Spanish TV station. I believe it was Univision. So far no major English outlets yet....


64 posted on 11/20/2008 9:26:58 AM PST by dmanLA
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To: Candor7

The Ohio governor needs to go ahead and name a replacement senator as quickly as possible, just in case Obama is denied the presidency and wants his old job back.


65 posted on 11/20/2008 9:27:46 AM PST by DannyTN
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To: All

IMHO, I continue to believe we are far, far better off without the LSM putting their heavy left slant on this. He would be tried and exonerated by the media long before it got to SCOTUS.

If the media were all over this right now, and let’s fantasize for a minute that they were “Fair and balanced”, riots and civil unrest would already be happening in the urban streets...influencing public opinion AND SCOTUS to disregard our constitution.

Let it play out below the radar and if we get what we SHOULD out of SCOTUS, the media will get on board. Just make sure your ammo is dry!!!!!


66 posted on 11/20/2008 9:28:03 AM PST by IrishPennant ("I have nothing to offer but blood, toil, tears, and sweat.")
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To: melancholy
There is no doubt in my mind Obama is ineligible,simply because he has refused to produce proof otherwise.

His lawyers have done nothing but stonewall,his media friends have tried to ridicule all questioners;he IS a fraud.

I don't believe any riots would be worse than those we've seen before,in which fools tore up their own neighborhoods.

67 posted on 11/20/2008 9:29:23 AM PST by hoosierham (Waddaya mean Freedom isn't free ?;will you take a creditcard?)
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To: Faith

I too have thought people in high places have known something was not right about all of this. I have looked into the eyes of Obama and on the night of his Chicago celebration I saw not a panic of sorts — not the deer in t headlights look but a pensive look. Another look earlier in the campaign was “mean eyes”.


68 posted on 11/20/2008 9:32:23 AM PST by janee (janee)
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To: Candor7
Don't get your hopes it. It was dismissed by the lower court and turned down already by one Supreme Court justice. The odds of the full court taking it up are exceedingly slim. And the odds of the full court taking it up before December 15th are nonexistent.
69 posted on 11/20/2008 9:33:16 AM PST by Non-Sequitur
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To: Candor7

The U.S. Constitution must win. This is non-negotiable.

Let’s find out what has so far been hidden from public knowledge.


70 posted on 11/20/2008 9:33:47 AM PST by F15Eagle (1 John 5:4-5, 4:15, John 11:25, 14:6, 1 Tim 2:5, John 3:17-18, John 20:31, 1 John 5:13, John 6:69)
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To: o_zarkman44

ROFLMAO!

You mean, except for the morons who voted for Obamessiah(see them here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mm1KOBMg1Y8), there are STILL people who believe in the credibility of the MSM??

INcredible!!


71 posted on 11/20/2008 9:33:47 AM PST by Dick Bachert
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To: Cicero
Perhaps Obama will fall back on Plan B, and explain that he wasn’t really born in Hawaii, but descended straight from heaven.

In which case he fails the natural born citizen requirement.

72 posted on 11/20/2008 9:35:40 AM PST by Non-Sequitur
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To: janee

He has very mean eyes, and I never saw what people found “charming” about him. But be that as it may, I’m betting he’s not the only one who knows he’s not legit. I’m sure the Dems - some of them, at least - were probably aware of this and took all the precautions way in advance, not only refusing to release the birth certificate but sealing every single document relating to him (college transcripts, etc.).

We know absolutely nothing about this man. Oh, wait, the only thing we do know is that he lied on his IL Bar application, when he said he had never used any other names than the ones under which he registered (Barack Hussein Obama). He had used both other first names and last names, of course, but I guess it’s ok in his case...


73 posted on 11/20/2008 9:38:10 AM PST by livius
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To: Candor7

The law is not my bailiwick, but,
it appears that the Constitution is pretty straightforward on eligibility requirements.
If the Justices on the USSC ignore the clearly defined requirements on this issue,
then it seems logical to conclude
that the Constitution is now to be considered invalid-by all the Justices, including Roberts,Scalia, Alito and Thomas.
If the USSC punts on this and down the line,
evidence surfaces clearly showing that Obama was not a natural born citizen,
the reputation and integrity of the USSC will be damaged and the future of the Constitution will be in doubt.
Is this a risk that Roberts,Scalia, Alito and Thomas are willing to take ?


74 posted on 11/20/2008 9:38:10 AM PST by Wild Irish Rogue
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To: DannyTN

PLEASE! Don’t do that to Ohio. We have enough problems. Obama was an Illinois senator.


75 posted on 11/20/2008 9:38:55 AM PST by Faith
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To: tumblindice
They will not review “political questions” but one of their affirmative functions is to interpret federal statutes...

And in this case which federal statute will they be interpreting?

76 posted on 11/20/2008 9:39:15 AM PST by Non-Sequitur
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To: Wild Irish Rogue
...it appears that the Constitution is pretty straightforward on eligibility requirements.

And completely silent on who checks that eligibility and how it is done.

77 posted on 11/20/2008 9:43:01 AM PST by Non-Sequitur
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To: Candor7

There’s no rush that I see in determining this question, although it would be better for the country if it were settled before he’s sworn in. (Keeping in mind past Democrats and their preference for their own ambition over concern for America: Clinton, Gore, Kerry, et al.)
If it is fact that Obama committed a fraud on the country by failing to disclose that he was born in Kenya, he would be disqualified and his election would be rescinded, or some time in the future he would be removed from office.
“We are a nation of laws, not men.” US v. Nixon, 1974


78 posted on 11/20/2008 9:45:01 AM PST by tumblindice (In this school of war called life...)
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To: Non-Sequitur

http://www4.law.cornell.edu/uscode/html/uscode08/usc_sec_08_00001401——000-.html

§ 1401. Nationals and citizens of United States at birth
The following shall be nationals and citizens of the United States at birth:
(a) a person born in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof;
(b) a person born in the United States to a member of an Indian, Eskimo, Aleutian, or other aboriginal tribe: Provided, That the granting of citizenship under this subsection shall not in any manner impair or otherwise affect the right of such person to tribal or other property;
(c) a person born outside of the United States and its outlying possessions of parents both of whom are citizens of the United States and one of whom has had a residence in the United States or one of its outlying possessions, prior to the birth of such person;
(d) a person born outside of the United States and its outlying possessions of parents one of whom is a citizen of the United States who has been physically present in the United States or one of its outlying possessions for a continuous period of one year prior to the birth of such person, and the other of whom is a national, but not a citizen of the United States;
(e) a person born in an outlying possession of the United States of parents one of whom is a citizen of the United States who has been physically present in the United States or one of its outlying possessions for a continuous period of one year at any time prior to the birth of such person;


79 posted on 11/20/2008 9:48:22 AM PST by tumblindice (In this school of war called life...)
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To: Cicero

I think you meant, “ascended straight from hell” didn’t you?


80 posted on 11/20/2008 9:50:34 AM PST by WVNan
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To: FReepaholic

They wanted Roe v. Wade really, really badly, so they miscalculated on that one.

Recently, Ruth Bader Ginsberg actually said that she now regrets the decision. Not, of course, that she doesn’t completely support the abortion “right” or will ever vote against it, but that she now thinks a more gradualist approach would have been more effective for the Culture of Death in the long run.


81 posted on 11/20/2008 9:50:46 AM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: Candor7

So you guys are fully prepared for President Biden?


82 posted on 11/20/2008 9:50:50 AM PST by ItsForTheChildren
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To: Candor7

Regardless of the outcome, if the supremes rule on this, it would be one of the most fascinating cases in supreme court history. I could only imagine if they ruled he was ineligible, the carnage on the streets would be enormous!


83 posted on 11/20/2008 9:51:14 AM PST by TheRedSoxWinThePennant
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To: tumblindice

Some have said earlier there was a slightly different law in effect in 1961. Does anybody know if this is true?


84 posted on 11/20/2008 9:51:31 AM PST by F15Eagle (1 John 5:4-5, 4:15, John 11:25, 14:6, 1 Tim 2:5, John 3:17-18, John 20:31, 1 John 5:13, John 6:69)
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To: o_zarkman44
If the MSM ignores this development they will never be counted as a credible source for NEWS ever again.

That alone is worth the price of admission.

85 posted on 11/20/2008 9:51:59 AM PST by sportutegrl
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To: Candor7

Calif. Supreme Court reviews Gay Marriage Proposition 8 . . . So WHY NOT THIS by SCOTUS ?
Not a Big Deal . . I Had to show MY birth Certificate to get my last Job.


86 posted on 11/20/2008 9:52:12 AM PST by 4Speed
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To: SFR
They exchange ritual handshakes

>> "what the heck?" <<

Just blew in from the tin foil hat forum?

Chill. The handshakes are just a formality.

87 posted on 11/20/2008 9:54:49 AM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: tumblindice

Who would further investigate this matter and remove the Messiah from office once he gets in? His own corrupt Attorney General? The loyal US Attorneys he will put everywhere, just like clinton? The leftist judges he appoints? A newly leftist SCOTUS? A Democrat congress? A complicit media?

It would take a civil war to get him removed from office. And if he keeps behaving the way he has done so far, there may well be one, unfortunately.


88 posted on 11/20/2008 9:55:45 AM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: Candor7

Never going to happen. Obama could send them a birth certificate written in crayon and they would accept it. His Kenyan grandmother could show up with a film of his birth and pan out the window to show Lions and elephants in the distance and it will not matter!! They know it would cause the country to explode. Plus, Obama isn’t stupid he has a nice fake ready to go and the SCOTUS will rubberstamp it.


89 posted on 11/20/2008 9:58:00 AM PST by jbwbubba
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To: tumblindice

And what, exactly, is unconstitutional about that law? The Constitution clearly gives Congress the authority to pass naturalization laws in Section, Article 8.


90 posted on 11/20/2008 9:58:35 AM PST by Non-Sequitur
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To: Windflier
nah, no tin foil here, I thought it sounded goofy
91 posted on 11/20/2008 10:00:00 AM PST by SFR
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To: ItsForTheChildren

He didn’t run for President and that’s not what the Constitution says.


92 posted on 11/20/2008 10:02:31 AM PST by DJ MacWoW (Make yourselves sheep and the wolves will eat you. Ben Franklin)
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To: tumblindice
This is not about "citizenship".

Its about being naturally born in the USA.

93 posted on 11/20/2008 10:02:51 AM PST by Candor7 (Fascism? All it takes is for good men to say nothing, ( member NRA)
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To: tumblindice

Now post the text as it read in 1961.


94 posted on 11/20/2008 10:03:00 AM PST by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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To: LucyT; Beckwith
This story has legs. Lots of interest on this thread.

It HAS to break into the MSM.

95 posted on 11/20/2008 10:05:41 AM PST by Candor7 (Fascism? All it takes is for good men to say nothing, ( member NRA)
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To: Candor7

“Counsel for the litigants are directed to submit their printed briefs so that each Justice has a set SEVERAL WEEKS BEFORE argument.”

“Several weeks”??? The Electors vote in 9 days from their conference date, and Jan. 20th is just a little over 6 weeks away. The longer they wait the worse it could be.


96 posted on 11/20/2008 10:09:32 AM PST by Humal
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To: Allegra
It would serve them right if this grew some long legs and blew up in their faces. The media has concealed an alarming amount of information on Obama.>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Its actually humorous. US journalism is deader than last weeks doormouse.

We fill the gap!

With any luck, a heavily spun version will be in the MSM tommorrow.

97 posted on 11/20/2008 10:13:35 AM PST by Candor7 (Fascism? All it takes is for good men to say nothing, ( member NRA)
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To: DJ MacWoW
The electors have been selected and they can vote however they want. They are Obama electors.

If they can't vote for Obama I don't think they'll be voting for McCain. You think they'll install Hillary?

98 posted on 11/20/2008 10:14:33 AM PST by ItsForTheChildren
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To: Windflier
They exchange ritual handshakes

Milk shakes....?

99 posted on 11/20/2008 10:18:48 AM PST by spokeshave (0bambi wants to kill babies and raise taxes, Sarah wants to raise babies and kill taxes)
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To: Cicero

“...explain that he wasn’t really born in Hawaii, but descended straight from heaven.”

The Immaculate Deception


100 posted on 11/20/2008 10:18:52 AM PST by pke
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