Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

Jonah Goldberg: Honestly, Another Abe? (Comparing Obama to FDR and Lincoln)
Townhall ^ | November 21, 2008 | Jonah Goldberg

Posted on 11/21/2008 1:08:32 AM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

click here to read article


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-2021-4041-46 next last
Good little history lesson for the left, if they'd heed it.
1 posted on 11/21/2008 1:08:33 AM PST by 2ndDivisionVet
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | View Replies]

To: 2ndDivisionVet

good article, he nails it!


2 posted on 11/21/2008 1:15:46 AM PST by CanadianMusherinMI (drill baby drill/mine baby mine!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: 2ndDivisionVet
Can't wait for Obama to crash and burn. I will grind it into the people who I know voted for him. I will be merciless. I just hope the damage he does is not permanent.
3 posted on 11/21/2008 1:19:09 AM PST by truthguy (Good intentions are not enough!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

Comment #4 Removed by Moderator

To: 2ndDivisionVet; All
This?

Or this?

 

Or, mayhap, this?


5 posted on 11/21/2008 1:27:57 AM PST by backhoe (All across America, the Lights are going out...)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: backhoe

WOW, the Obamessiah is really trying to dampen expectations — he’s no longer the new Messiah, now we are merely to think of him as Lincoln/FDR/MLK all rolled into one. Talk about modesty!!

One of the most disgusting aspects of the feeble Lincoln comparisons is that Obambi is really more like the Copperhead Democrats of 1864 who tried to bring about surrender and defeat in the midst of a war that was being won. Obambi tried his best to defeat tbe USA and our allies in Iraq. How DARE he compare himself to Lincoln?!?!?!

And FDR, for all of his failings in domestic policies, did at least insist upon fighting for the unconditional surrender of the Axis powers b/c he realized that if we accepted anything less it would just be kicking the problems down the road. Again, Obambi is nothing like FDR the wartime leader — Obambi prefers retreat, defeat, and surrender.


6 posted on 11/21/2008 1:56:42 AM PST by Enchante (Thanks, Mediascum, you "elected" your candidate and now the country will pay....)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 5 | View Replies]

To: 2ndDivisionVet

Goldberg: "What I find fascinating, however, is not so much the Obama hagiography, but the burning desire for another FDR or Lincoln that underlies it. "

It's a fantasy. Related to the messiah complex, grandiosity, and socialist dreams of omnipotence which have been part of this Obama movement all along. They are just translating that into secular, political terms. Earlier in the year it was JFK. He would lead the new Camelot as they got thrills up their legs. They will replay that next, comparing him to JFK again. Maybe when his Cuban Missile Crisis starts, as Biden predicted. There will be more jargon about his "transformative leadership" for the new age, overcoming all divisions, calming the seas, healing the planet, etc. He's leading "a new generation of Americans" into this global healing utopia of liberal do-goodism and infanticide on demand paid for by the government.

7 posted on 11/21/2008 2:12:31 AM PST by HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity
Obami is a disgusting and embarrassing choice for our leader. I for one am not buying into it.
8 posted on 11/21/2008 2:19:48 AM PST by DooDahhhh (AMEN)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 7 | View Replies]

To: Enchante
Hi, FRiend- I was trying to find that GIF of Duh!1© morphing in to Che, but it wasn't handy, so I settle for Mao- but you get the idea.

This guy is really Bad News.

As I have mentioned here:

OBAMAO ... is America ready for a Marxist president? [ 1, 2, 3, 4 ]

Nope, but we are about to get one, good & hard...

...so chroniclers like Yours Truly will be documenting every move he makes, every breath he takes... unless, or until, we are silenced by all that "tolerance & inclusiveness" he & his followers are already practicing....

America Held Hostage- the Obama Files...
Click the picture:

I'll keep doing it as long as there's something to say- or until we are silenced.

As far as I am able, I will mirror this on our Canadian sister site, which has been moved to Panama due to censorship issues:

America Held Hostage- the Obama Files...
Click the picture:

...and no, I'm not kidding about that tagline- I wish I were...

9 posted on 11/21/2008 2:22:04 AM PST by backhoe (All across America, the Lights are going out...)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 6 | View Replies]

To: 2ndDivisionVet

Naturally one of the biggest and most cherished liberal myths is that FDR, through his socialist policies, brought the country out of the Great Depression. That myth has had cold water thrown on it for decades and now has been thoroughly demolished in a book by Amity Shlaes called “The Forgotten Man.” WWII brought us out of the GD. Roosevelt’s socialism only exacerbated the troubles.


10 posted on 11/21/2008 3:12:17 AM PST by driftless2
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: 2ndDivisionVet
[Article] Lincoln unified the country at gunpoint and curtailed civil liberties in a way that makes President Bush look like an ACLU zealot. The partisan success of the GOP in the aftermath of the war Obama thinks so highly of was forged in blood.

Good one.

I'll go a little farther than Goldberg and say that I think that Lincoln came into office secretly determined to cut the Gordian Knot of constitutional protection of slavery with the sword of civil war.

How about that one?

And I think that that is what The Obammunist's idolaters hope for from him. That, under his leadership, they will at last wade in the blood of the Old America, the better America, the America they will never in their lives come close to measuring up to.

They long for an end to 50-50 divisions of "red/blue" America, an end to constitutional and electoral frustration of their ideology. Beyond that, they long to drag our bodies in the dust like the Islamofascists, to consign us to "destructive labor" camps like the Stalinists. They hope Obama will take them there. Goldberg is exactly right.

11 posted on 11/21/2008 3:13:12 AM PST by lentulusgracchus ("Whatever." -- sinkspur)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: 2ndDivisionVet

I would compare Obama to Carter...that is the only President I can even imagine comparing him too. They mention Kennedy...please Obama could not even wipe the crap off Kennedy’s shoes. Obama is no JFK that is for sure.


12 posted on 11/21/2008 3:52:51 AM PST by napscoordinator
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Agent Orange Peel

Don’t forget Clinton...he did too a few years.


13 posted on 11/21/2008 3:53:34 AM PST by napscoordinator
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 4 | View Replies]

To: DooDahhhh; lentulusgracchus

The economy will prove to be a major obstacle for Obammunism. It’s just a question of how long he will sit back irresponsibly and watch the stock market crash before doing a U-turn on this insane plan to raise taxes during a recession.


14 posted on 11/21/2008 3:58:13 AM PST by HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 8 | View Replies]

To: HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity
I don't think he will really care about "the economy" ..... if anything, the economy represents competition for his efforts to organize everyone as assets of the State. JMHO.

I think he will prove a very cool customer when it comes to "feeling your pain" from unemployment, etc., except insofar as pain will present him political opportunities.

So, perversely, the more pain and disorder, the better for Obama.

15 posted on 11/21/2008 4:05:38 AM PST by lentulusgracchus ("Whatever." -- sinkspur)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 14 | View Replies]

To: 2ndDivisionVet
In several of his most famous speeches, Obama insinuates that he wants to bring the country together the way Honest Abe did.

Hmmmm......


16 posted on 11/21/2008 4:21:38 AM PST by Virginia Ridgerunner (Sarah Palin is a smart missile aimed at the heart of the left!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: 2ndDivisionVet

Using Lincoln as an example of a unifier the President when the war between the states happened?


17 posted on 11/21/2008 4:24:34 AM PST by mccainvoterinobamaville (My new chant IM STRAIGHT IM GREAT AND I LIVE IN THE LOWER 48!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: napscoordinator

I fear comparing Obama to Carter will be an insult to Carter.


18 posted on 11/21/2008 4:25:45 AM PST by mccainvoterinobamaville (My new chant IM STRAIGHT IM GREAT AND I LIVE IN THE LOWER 48!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 12 | View Replies]

To: Virginia Ridgerunner

Lots of talk about giving Obama a chance. I don’t recall us telling the left to give Bush a chance. If we did, they ignored our request.


19 posted on 11/21/2008 4:28:40 AM PST by tenger (It's not their money.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 16 | View Replies]

To: mccainvoterinobamaville
I fear comparing Obama to Carter will be an insult to Carter.

So that's why Carter wanted Obama to win, so he (Carter) would no longer be the worst president in history. Now it makes sense.

20 posted on 11/21/2008 4:30:39 AM PST by Marathoner (Down the drain with B Hussein)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 18 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-2021-4041-46 next last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson