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Breaking : SHOOTOUTS IN MUMBAI [A lot of people killed and injured]
CNN IBN ^ | Wed, Nov 26, 2008

Posted on 11/26/2008 9:39:53 AM PST by Indian_Fighter_Kite

Mumbai: At least 15 people have been injured in gunfights between two groups in at least three places in Mumbai on Thursday night.

Details are sketchy but it is believed that two gangs fired at each other at outside CST Railway Terminus, Hotel Oberoi and the popular Café Leopold restaurant in Mumbai.

The first shooting took place near the CST police station

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To: karpar
elections in India are happening soon ... so these attacks are going to favor the right wingers in India

Well that's not how it worked in Spain.

1,001 posted on 11/26/2008 7:32:43 PM PST by manapua
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To: floriduh voter

Oh, great and she is getting her own show... why, exactly, did she think this was OUR fault?


1,002 posted on 11/26/2008 7:33:12 PM PST by Arizona Carolyn
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To: TornadoAlley3

“shades of international conspiracy”....”does not fit any previous pattern”, larger conspiracy could only be planned outside of India” “emergency cabinet meeting”.....NDTV
~~~
The Paks will catch hell soon...


1,003 posted on 11/26/2008 7:33:28 PM PST by 1COUNTER-MORTER-68 (THROWING ANOTHER BULLET-RIDDLED TV IN THE PILE OUT BACK~~~~~)
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To: SE Mom

Ruh roh, don’t like them words one bit.


1,004 posted on 11/26/2008 7:33:53 PM PST by thecabal (We care a lot)
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To: 1COUNTER-MORTER-68

My thought too- who dropped them off...and where are they now?


1,005 posted on 11/26/2008 7:34:05 PM PST by SE Mom (Proud mom of an Iraq war combat vet)
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To: SE Mom
international conspiracy.

If Pakistan is implicated this ain't good.

1,006 posted on 11/26/2008 7:34:12 PM PST by mware (F-R-E-E, that spells free. Free Republic.com baby.)
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To: Arizona Carolyn

It’s 3:00 in the morning, and a telephone is ringing...


1,008 posted on 11/26/2008 7:35:08 PM PST by ichabod1 (You won't know obammunism is here until it puts a boot in your (fat) bottom.)
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To: LikeLight

http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?ie=UTF8&hl=en&msa=0&msid=106719836142005814567.00045c9d9d0c959a84c6e&ll=18.938763,72.816267&spn=0.052607,0.11158&t=h&z=14


1,009 posted on 11/26/2008 7:35:17 PM PST by hercuroc
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To: All

From this person who is live blogging on a site that was posted earlier...

http://www.ultrabrown.com/posts/bombay-under-terrorist-attack

Update 20: A Turk calling into CNN said his parents at the Taj told the terrorists they were Muslims, prayed in front of them, and were assured they wouldn’t be harmed if they stayed in their rooms and locked their doors.


1,010 posted on 11/26/2008 7:35:44 PM PST by mfccinsd
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To: thecabal

Got it,,,TANKS...


1,011 posted on 11/26/2008 7:35:51 PM PST by 1COUNTER-MORTER-68 (THROWING ANOTHER BULLET-RIDDLED TV IN THE PILE OUT BACK~~~~~)
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To: SE Mom
( No idea what that may mean)

It means war.

1,012 posted on 11/26/2008 7:36:05 PM PST by ichabod1 (You won't know obammunism is here until it puts a boot in your (fat) bottom.)
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To: SE Mom

Sporadic gunfire at Nariman House - some smoke from windows - several neighbors hit by bullets in their homes earlier (IBNLive)


1,013 posted on 11/26/2008 7:37:30 PM PST by LikeLight (http://www.believersguidetolegalissues.com)
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To: 1COUNTER-MORTER-68

Who are the Deccan Mujahideen?
Wed, 11/26/2008 - 7:34pm
One must always be suspicious when a “new” terrorist organization crops up. Today’s horrific attacks in Mumbai were claimed by a previously unknown group calling itself the Deccan Mujahideen. But one India journalist claims the pattern of the attacks suggests that Lashkar-e-Taiba, a nasty Islamist organization based in Lahore, Pakistan, and with a significant presence in Kashmir and links to al Qaeda, may be to blame.

Here’s where it gets interesting — and I stress here that I am just speculating. Lashkar-e-Taiba’s main goal is to expel India from Kashmir. In the past, some have accused elements of the Pakistani military and intelligence services of having ties to the group. Pakistan’s government has always hotly denied such accusations.

Pakistani President Asif Ali Zardari has in recent weeks moved closer to the United States, made some significant gestures toward India, and moved to shut down the political wing of the ISI, Pakisan’s powerful intelligence service (that’s the unit that tries to steal elections). How likely is it that some angry “rogue elements” of the ISI, aligned with Kashmiri jihadists and a team of Indian domestic extremists, sought to head off these moves? I have no idea, but it’s definitely a theory worth exploring.

There’s another more straighforward explanation for today’s attacks — revenge. A group calling itself the “Indian Mujahideen” has claimed responsibility for attacks in a number of different cities over the past several months. The Indian Mujahideen sent a warning in September expressing anger over recent raids by the city’s antiterrorism squad (ATS). Today’s message from the Deccan Mujahideen appears to be identical:

You should know that your acts are not at all left unnoticed; rather we are closely keeping an eye on you and just waiting for the right time to execute your bloodshed. We are aware of your recent raids at Ansarnagar, Mograpada in Andheri and the harassment and trouble you created there for the Muslims.

“You threatened to murder them and your mischief went to such an extent that you even dared to abuse and insult Maulana Mahmood-ul-Hasan Qasmi and even misbehaved with the Muslim women and children there.

“If this is the degree your arrogance has reached, and if you think that by these stunts you can scare us, then let the Indian Mujahideen warn all the people of Mumbai that whatever deadly attacks Mumbaikars will face in future, their responsibility would lie with the Mumbai ATS and their guardians - Vilasrao Deshmukh and R R Patil. You are already on our hit-list and this time very very seriously.”

The chief of Mumbai’s ATS was killed in a gun battle with some of the attackers today.

UPDATE: On CNN just now, terrorism expert Rohan Gunaratna says that the Indian Mujahideen are most likely to blame, and they are the same group as the Deccan Mujahideen. “No other group has the capability,” he said, emphasizing the group’s strength in Mumbai. He also pointed out that such attacks would have taken months of planning.

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1,014 posted on 11/26/2008 7:38:26 PM PST by TornadoAlley3 (Obama is everything Oklahoma is not.)
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To: 1COUNTER-MORTER-68
Stupid CNN --"President-elect Obama is closely monitoring this situation, we will have David Gergen next to discuss this with you"

Not a WORD about THE President!!!!!! and what HE is doing...

1,015 posted on 11/26/2008 7:41:13 PM PST by Arizona Carolyn
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To: SE Mom

My thought too- who dropped them off...and where are they now?
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From what I saw of the boats they were dropped off close in,,,

Not much range...


1,016 posted on 11/26/2008 7:41:25 PM PST by 1COUNTER-MORTER-68 (THROWING ANOTHER BULLET-RIDDLED TV IN THE PILE OUT BACK~~~~~)
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To: Arizona Carolyn

WASHINGTON (AP) The White House says President Bush is pledging to stand by the people of India following a series of deadly terrorist strikes in Mumbai. And press secretary Dana Perino says the U.S. stands ready to assist and support the Indian government.


1,017 posted on 11/26/2008 7:43:38 PM PST by TornadoAlley3 (Obama is everything Oklahoma is not.)
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To: ichabod1

Olberei, Trident and Taj are 3 seperate hotels according to google map.

Oblerei is on the beach, Trident a half mile east, and Taj another mile and a half further east of Trident.


1,018 posted on 11/26/2008 7:44:09 PM PST by cookcounty ("A ship in harbor is safe, but that's not why the ship is built." ---Governor Sarah Palin)
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To: TornadoAlley3

Why would they target Americans,British and Israelies then?


1,019 posted on 11/26/2008 7:44:22 PM PST by CindyDawg (Lord, please bless America)
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To: TornadoAlley3

IBNLive just told to stop showing live video...

So...


1,020 posted on 11/26/2008 7:44:28 PM PST by LikeLight (http://www.believersguidetolegalissues.com)
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To: Shermy; All
Well, this is what everyone wanted.
So, at the end of the day, no terrorists attacks on OUR soil since 9-11 (that one courtesy of all the Clinton era gaffes), however, none since....thanks to our “hated by almost everyone” President Bush.
Al Queda has been licking their chops since the election, and this is arguably a preview of what is to come. Probably closer to home next time, as they are singling out Americans and Brits.
However, this is what our country wanted, CHANGE. Well, looks like we're going to get it.
1,021 posted on 11/26/2008 7:44:52 PM PST by Lisa_from Buckeye Country (B. (Hussein) O. will never be MY president.)
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To: LikeLight

Counter-assault must be coming soon, IBN was asked to stop airing live footage from the hostage areas.


1,022 posted on 11/26/2008 7:45:05 PM PST by thecabal (We care a lot)
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To: Arizona Carolyn

Bush has thrown in the towel.


1,023 posted on 11/26/2008 7:45:06 PM PST by Shermy ("The whole world has financed the United States, ...they have a reciprocal debt with the planet.")
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To: justa-hairyape

This op was put together pretty quickly, if that is the case...


1,024 posted on 11/26/2008 7:45:13 PM PST by Paul R. (We are in a break in an Ice Age. A brief break at that...)
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To: TornadoAlley3

Death toll rising. Personal stories here:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2139035/posts


1,025 posted on 11/26/2008 7:45:29 PM PST by Palladin (Obama on Ayers: "He's just a guy in my neighborhood." LIAR!!!)
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To: Arizona Carolyn

You won’t get word from Bush.

He plays them close to the vest till the bombs are already falling.

He’s also been awful chummy with Obama lately too.

We won’t know much till it happens.


1,026 posted on 11/26/2008 7:45:42 PM PST by jeffers
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To: 1COUNTER-MORTER-68

Makes little sense that heavily armed local terrorist would arrive by rubber dingy. They could have just drove a car or walked around town. Only way that makes sense is if the waterways gave them better attack logistics.


1,027 posted on 11/26/2008 7:46:07 PM PST by justa-hairyape
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To: Shermy
Sadly, you're right.

What's the over/under on Bush coming out sometime during the next few days to remind us all that Islam is a religion of peace?

1,028 posted on 11/26/2008 7:46:41 PM PST by manapua
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To: Arizona Carolyn

I doubt CNN will get a report from the “bunker”...;0)


1,029 posted on 11/26/2008 7:46:50 PM PST by 1COUNTER-MORTER-68 (THROWING ANOTHER BULLET-RIDDLED TV IN THE PILE OUT BACK~~~~~)
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To: Shermy

No he hasn’t.


1,030 posted on 11/26/2008 7:47:44 PM PST by kristinn
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To: Crystal Cove; SE Mom
Is the Trident Hotel the same as the Oberoi? Or is there a third hotel involved? Thanks.

Same hotel.

IBN has been requested to not show live operations as commandos take up positions. Still showing firefighting, though.

1,031 posted on 11/26/2008 7:48:14 PM PST by CedarDave (This bumper sticker stays on my pickup: "I'm voting for Sarah!")
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To: an amused spectator
You mean like this which was trotted out just this week:

http://www.breitbart.tv/?p=226883

1,032 posted on 11/26/2008 7:48:21 PM PST by Arizona Carolyn
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To: Rushmore Rocks

Rushmore Rocks wrote: “Is it out of the realm of possibility that Pakistan might be behind this?”

I would think so. A group connected to Al Quaeda from Pakistan has been active in India lately. The fact they looked for Americans and British also point to it coming from Pakistan. India is the only stable government in the area which makes it a threat. Pakistan and Afghanistan have pretty much merged although not government wise and are very unstable. I don’t think this is a Kashmir thing either. What is strange though is how well organized it was that it had to be financed and that’s what leaves the door open to possibly someone else? Those groups in Pakistain do not have this amount of organization or money. I would look to a group from another country with a little more sophistication as the organizer and to me, that would be coming from a surrounding country that is more sophisticated. It would be far out there to say Russia but maybe Iran??? In any event, after this, I don’t see how anything can be resolved in that region without India being involved. I think India will insist on it.


1,033 posted on 11/26/2008 7:49:37 PM PST by volslover
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To: All

ADDING to post no. 736:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2139035/posts

“Put your hand up if you’re British or American”
The Sun ^ | 11.26.2008 | Charlotte Spratt
Posted on November 26, 2008 7:39:39 PM PST by libh8er

ARTICLE SNIPPET: “GUNMEN who killed more than 80 people in Mumbai last night ordered hotel guests: “Put your hand up if you’re British or American.” Frightened hostages were marched off — and their fate was unclear. Local reports said they could include up to 40 British and other foreigners.

Late last night police were said to be storming two luxury hotels, one of which was ablaze.

The Oberoi and Taj Mahal Palace hotels were among at least SEVEN locations attacked simultaneously as maniacs with machine guns and bombs staged massacres that rocked the teeming Indian city.

At least 900 were wounded as the wild-eyed terrorists, thought to be Islamic fanatics, opened fire and lobbed grenades indiscriminately.

A rail station, restaurant and police HQ were also hit, along with a hospital where 58 perished.”

ARTICLE SNIPPET: “Mumbai has frequently been targeted by Islamic extremists, including a series of bombings in July 2007 that killed 187 people.

A group calling itself the “Deccan Mujahedeen” last night boasted its members had staged the attacks.

Police said: “The encounters are still going on and we are trying to overpower them.””


1,034 posted on 11/26/2008 7:49:43 PM PST by Cindy
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To: LikeLight

“They specifically took out the police anti-terror chief... Not likely by coincidence...

It’s a terrible occurrence, but it was all well planned- unfortunately.


1,035 posted on 11/26/2008 7:49:46 PM PST by Canedawg (The media is a ass, a idiot.," said Mr. Bumble.)
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To: Paul R.
This op was put together pretty quickly, if that is the case...

Could have been that the Somali Pirates or Pakistani Radicals offered money and logistical support to an internal Indian Mujaheddin group. That would explain the heavily armed part of the attack. Don't know why they would use rubber watercraft if they were local. Perhaps they got the weapons from a foreign support ship which then provided the rubber craft.

1,036 posted on 11/26/2008 7:50:04 PM PST by justa-hairyape
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To: justa-hairyape

Anything is possible, but for AQ this is too soon for retaliation of that sort; they never do anything without long planning.


1,037 posted on 11/26/2008 7:50:10 PM PST by Arizona Carolyn
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To: 1COUNTER-MORTER-68

People who cheered Musharaff leaving are going to rue the day... he held Pakistan together (JMHO)


1,038 posted on 11/26/2008 7:51:23 PM PST by Arizona Carolyn
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To: Palladin

twitter

ajitonline: RT @BreakingNewz Stopping updates related to operations (Police requesting not to update the situation in real time)..please COMPLY #mumbai
1 minute ago · Reply · View Tweet

DrPFenderson: RT @mumbaiupdates: India TV - Terrorists have said no to possible surrender #mumbai
1 minute ago · Reply · View Tweet


1,039 posted on 11/26/2008 7:52:48 PM PST by TornadoAlley3 (Obama is everything Oklahoma is not.)
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To: Arizona Carolyn
Stupid CNN --"President-elect Obama is closely monitoring this situation, we will have David Gergen next to discuss this with you"

Style over substance. We are in for four years of this, at least.

1,040 posted on 11/26/2008 7:54:04 PM PST by CedarDave (This bumper sticker stays on my pickup: "I'm voting for Sarah!")
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To: justa-hairyape; 1COUNTER-MORTER-68; All

Yes, why would a locally based group choose to assault in boats? They would have so many more options on land, unless the water routes/access points were just a lot more vulnerable, etc.

aside:

Former CIA honcho John McLaughlin asserted on CNN a few minutes ago that India has the LARGEST Muslim population in the world. I would have hoped that a big time CIA dude would know better what he is talking about. That is quite a piece of ignorance for a guy who was #2 in the CIA..... what is true is that India has a huge Muslim population, but it falls behind Indonesia and Pakistan in total numbers:

Rank Country Muslim Population

1 Indonesia 207,000,105
2 Pakistan 159,799,666
3 India 151,402,065

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islam_by_country


1,041 posted on 11/26/2008 7:54:21 PM PST by Enchante (Countless Innocents in Mumbai, India Now Face the "Religion of Peace" in Action)
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To: Cindy

Per live feed- several Israelis are held hostage on the 19th floor at a hotel..


1,042 posted on 11/26/2008 7:55:05 PM PST by SE Mom (Proud mom of an Iraq war combat vet)
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To: elc
The “Pirate frigate” turned out to be a Thai fishing vessel

Source?

1,043 posted on 11/26/2008 7:55:34 PM PST by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly.)
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To: LikeLight

LikeLight wrote:
They specifically took out the police anti-terror chief...

*************

AQ move at least twice I know of...once an anti terror cop in Pakistan, and famously, Ahmed Shah Massood.


1,044 posted on 11/26/2008 7:55:54 PM PST by jeffers
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To: CindyDawg

Why would they target Americans,British and Israelies then?

is that confirmed?


1,045 posted on 11/26/2008 7:56:39 PM PST by TornadoAlley3 (Obama is everything Oklahoma is not.)
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To: justa-hairyape

That’s a good guess- but it’s tough to get a sense of this yet- though I’m sure there’s some serious interrogating going on with the ones they captured.


1,046 posted on 11/26/2008 7:57:37 PM PST by SE Mom (Proud mom of an Iraq war combat vet)
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To: jeffers

Massood...the opening move of 9-11.


1,047 posted on 11/26/2008 7:58:14 PM PST by happinesswithoutpeace (You are receiving this broadcast as a dream)
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To: All

The term “Deccan Mujahedeen” may be an indication that these attackers are from within India. The “Deccan Traps” are a vast geological area of ancient magma to the east of Mumbai.


1,048 posted on 11/26/2008 7:58:24 PM PST by zot
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To: happinesswithoutpeace

AQ fingerprints all over this...


1,049 posted on 11/26/2008 7:59:28 PM PST by jeffers
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To: TornadoAlley3

By who?


1,050 posted on 11/26/2008 7:59:41 PM PST by CindyDawg (Lord, please bless America)
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