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Worker dies at Long Island Wal-Mart after being trampled in Black Friday stampede
nydailynews.com ^ | Friday, November 28th 2008, 9:30 AM | JOE GOULD

Posted on 11/28/2008 7:02:13 AM PST by GQuagmire

A worker died after being trampled and a woman miscarried when hundreds of shoppers smashed through the doors of a Long Island Wal-Mart Friday morning, witnesses said.

The unidentified worker, employed as an overnight stock clerk, tried to hold back the unruly crowds just after the Valley Stream store opened at 5 a.m.

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TOPICS: Front Page News; News/Current Events; US: New York
KEYWORDS: barbarians; blackfriday; greed; itsjustasalefolks; moralabsolutes; retail; sin; urbansavages
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To: bluegirl
Thanks, bluegirl.

FTA: "He was bum-rushed by 200 people," said Jimmy Overby, 43, a co-worker. "They took the doors off the hinges. He was trampled and killed in front of me. They took me down too...I literally had to fight people off my back."

What ever happened to class, dignity, restraint, respect, consideration and compassion? When did humans turn into animals?

51 posted on 11/28/2008 7:24:20 AM PST by yorkie (The early bird gets the worm; the second mouse gets the cheese)
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To: cweese

It’s not funny, but it is incredible and a shame. I wonder what the poor guy must have thought just before he opened the door. I wonder what the shoppers thought as they trampled over him. Not to mention the mother that miscarried. 2 deaths for the love of a good bargain.


52 posted on 11/28/2008 7:24:30 AM PST by new cruelty (Shoot your TV. Torch your newspaper.)
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To: VOA
well at least for me...
The link doesn’t work; I just get “page error”.

++

I had to go in through the front door of the paper.

Try this link

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/headlines/index.html

53 posted on 11/28/2008 7:24:43 AM PST by fproy2222
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To: RetiredArmy

Most kids I know today are exactly the same way.


54 posted on 11/28/2008 7:24:49 AM PST by netmilsmom (Psalm 109:8 - Let his days be few; and let another take his office)
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To: 4yearlurker
Imagine if there is a food shortage.

There may come a time in the near future where we don't have to imagine.

55 posted on 11/28/2008 7:25:00 AM PST by garbanzo (Government is not the solution to our problems. Government is the problem.)
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To: GQuagmire

Watch out for falling prices...


56 posted on 11/28/2008 7:25:35 AM PST by LouD
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To: RegulatorCountry

“I’m betting the crowd was egged on by a media presence. Isn’t inciting a riot against the law, even if it does make for exciting footage on the evening news?”

A good recipe for a riot is advertising an incredible deal “while supplies last” - when everyone knows that item will be sold to the first 100 or 200 customers.

I’m reminded of last year’s Toys R Us ad for a $300 Zune on sale that day for $100.
Hundreds waited outside for hours in the bitter winter wind.

How many did they actually have in stock?
15.


57 posted on 11/28/2008 7:26:31 AM PST by Scotswife
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To: GovernmentShrinker

“Huge crowds are dangerous by definition.”

Quote from the movie “Men in Black”

Edwards: Why the big secret? People are smart. They can handle it.
Kay: A person is smart. People are dumb, panicky dangerous animals and you know it. Fifteen hundred years ago everybody knew the Earth was the center of the universe. Five hundred years ago, everybody knew the Earth was flat, and fifteen minutes ago, you knew that humans were alone on this planet. Imagine what you’ll know tomorrow.


58 posted on 11/28/2008 7:26:50 AM PST by GQuagmire (Giggety,Giggety,Giggety)
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To: 4yearlurker
And there will — at least here in SoCal where I hate to think what the aftermath of the next large earthquake will bring out in people, too many of whom have stored neither food nor water but have shown past propensity to loot liquor stores as a first order of business following any breakdown in social order.
59 posted on 11/28/2008 7:27:34 AM PST by BenLurkin
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To: 4yearlurker
Try as I might I just can’t wrap my mind around this kind of behavior. What the F*@# is wrong with people??!!!

It's called "mob rule", and it's as old as the hills. The trouble is, today it's more intense thanks to the all-knowing, all-seeing lofty liberal views and legislation passed, where you have every excuse in the book to get away with breaking the rules, mean spirited acts, stealing and even murder in some cases.

What a world they've given us! Some how, I can't wait for the "Last Days" to complete!

60 posted on 11/28/2008 7:30:56 AM PST by SlightOfTongue
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To: The Anti-One
If those hundred others stepped on him, whether pushed or not, arrest them too. Department stores must get a handle on this and from above posts some seem to be trying.

That said though, people may act like it but they aren't animals. I don't care if stuff is free, God gave us a brain and we need to use it. I could go stand in a crowd and force my way in but common sense should tell me someone might get hurt. People need to be responsible for their behavior IMOOC

61 posted on 11/28/2008 7:31:07 AM PST by CindyDawg (Lord, please bless America)
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To: Paved Paradise

“Can you imagine when the man fell that people next to him saw it and still walked right over him.”

I can imagine that there was such a wave of people that no one could stop even if they wanted to.


62 posted on 11/28/2008 7:31:31 AM PST by Kirkwood
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To: netmilsmom
Circuit City was giving numbers to the crowd. You got there, you got a number, you went back to your car. No crush, no fights, no broken merchandise, no stealing from other’s carts.

That's the smartest thing I've heard so far. Why doesn't WalMart, Target, etc. do the same thing?
63 posted on 11/28/2008 7:32:00 AM PST by reagan_fanatic (I'll give Obama the same amount of respect the left gave Bush)
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To: yorkie
The working link:

http://www.nydailynews.com/ny_local/2008/11/28/2008-11-28_worker_dies_at_long_island_walmart_after.html

64 posted on 11/28/2008 7:33:43 AM PST by MooseMan (This space intentionally left blank.)
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To: GovernmentShrinker

I took my grandaughter to a Disney Play a few years ago. The crowd was orderly but shoulder to shoulder. I felt we were in danger though. Just one spark and.


65 posted on 11/28/2008 7:35:15 AM PST by CindyDawg (Lord, please bless America)
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To: netmilsmom

I went to Wal-Mart this morning with the attitude of if they have it good , if not ‘oh well.’ I was there less than 5 min, walking away in disgust. I then went to Target. It was 20 min before they were opening. Maybe 100 people in line. I sttod in line and had a great conversation with my fellow shoppers. The employees were walking up and down the line making sure people knew where sale items were located. When the doors were open, people were polite. No pushing or shoving. I got the 3 items I wanted and was out of there in less than 30 min. Wal-Mart could learn a lot from how Target ran thier Black Friday sales.


66 posted on 11/28/2008 7:35:16 AM PST by Angry_White_Man_Syndrome (I'm Okies love Dubya 2's "other half")
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To: RegulatorCountry
RC, It's funny that you should mention inciting riots. I went to Walmart yesterday (on Thanksgiving) to get a Nintendo Wii for my son. When I asked if they had any, they said that they did, but couldn't sell me one until Friday. I asked if the reason for this was because of a sale price only offered on Friday, and the response was no.

I then asked if Walmart was in business to incite riots, and of course received the typical "Walmart minimum wage, blank stare".

67 posted on 11/28/2008 7:36:39 AM PST by atfblogger (www.outlawedconservatism.com)
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To: GQuagmire

—bflr—


68 posted on 11/28/2008 7:37:45 AM PST by rellimpank (--don't believe anything the MSM tells you about firearms or explosives--NRA Benefactor)
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To: RetiredArmy

I have to agree with the kids here. It WAS their stuff if it was given to them. Parents have no right to give away things that don’t belong to them. Instead of the parents stealing, they should have asked the kids to sit down and pick out 5 things to give away. Then repeat that again every 2 weeks. When parents simply take things that don’t belong to them, it makes the kids more selfish, not less. This was very bad parenting.


69 posted on 11/28/2008 7:38:54 AM PST by Kirkwood
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To: GQuagmire

Just tattoo the mark of the beast ‘666’ on their forehead and be done with it.


70 posted on 11/28/2008 7:39:09 AM PST by SouthDixie (We are but angels with one wing, it takes two to fly.)
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To: atfblogger

Wait a minute. You walked into a Wal-Mart, cash in hand and ready to buy an item in stock at its listed price, and you were turned away? There’s a regional sales manager that would like to have a few words with you.


71 posted on 11/28/2008 7:39:34 AM PST by 1rudeboy
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To: yorkie
>>What ever happened to class, dignity, restraint, respect, consideration and compassion? When did humans turn into animals?<<

In this country, we officially became animals on Jan. 20, 1973...the day 7 men in black robes decriminalized murder-on-demand for the most innocent and weakest among us.

So now, ANYTHING goes.

72 posted on 11/28/2008 7:41:48 AM PST by bimboeruption (Proud daughter of a Normandy Invader)
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To: yorkie

All but the people in the very front probably had no idea anyone was injured. They saw/heard an excited crowd running into the store ahead of them, and joined in the fun. Very doubtful that they realized the screaming and running people in the front were screaming and running because they saw that a dangerous situation had arisen, and were trying to get away from it as fast as possible — and with hundreds of people behind them, running forward was the only way to go. Crowds are very, very dangerous. I steer clear of them whenever possible.


73 posted on 11/28/2008 7:42:28 AM PST by GovernmentShrinker
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To: cweese
“This is funny to you?”

There are always wise cracks about these type of articles by people who obviously have never lost anyone and grab it as a chance to be cute.

74 posted on 11/28/2008 7:42:53 AM PST by A knight without armor
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To: CaptainK
***It’s best to stay home on Black Friday.***

I won't even go on the 15th or the first day of the month. that is when the welfare and social Security checks are arrive.

75 posted on 11/28/2008 7:45:56 AM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar (NEVER FORGET TREASON!)
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To: GQuagmire

I heard a news story on the radio this morning—a woman who got in line early at the local Wal-Mart was waiting to pay for her x-box when another customer ran by and grabbed it out of her hands.


76 posted on 11/28/2008 7:47:25 AM PST by ViLaLuz (2 Chronicles 7:14)
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To: TomGuy

From last year: http://www.guzer.com/videos/walmart_stampede.php


77 posted on 11/28/2008 7:48:16 AM PST by BenLurkin
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To: yorkie

Clinton Legacy.


78 posted on 11/28/2008 7:48:48 AM PST by BenLurkin
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To: GQuagmire

That is a great tag line: “A person is smart. People are dumb, panicky dangerous animals and you know it.”


79 posted on 11/28/2008 7:50:19 AM PST by BenLurkin
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To: Kirkwood

>>I have to agree with the kids here. It WAS their stuff if it was given to them. Parents have no right to give away things that don’t belong to them. Instead of the parents stealing, they should have asked the kids to sit down and pick out 5 things to give away. Then repeat that again every 2 weeks. When parents simply take things that don’t belong to them, it makes the kids more selfish, not less. This was very bad parenting.<<

My parents had a rule. You may be “given” something but if you wanted food and clothing provided for you, you needed to understand that everything in the house was bought by them.

So, if you abused a privledge, those possessions belongs to the giver.

One cannot make a contract with a person under 18, binding under the law, therefore NOTHING belongs to those kids.
Or the parents can have the kids “buy” food and clothing, rent, etc. with their possessions.

Your attitude is why kids feel entitled today.


80 posted on 11/28/2008 7:51:10 AM PST by netmilsmom (Psalm 109:8 - Let his days be few; and let another take his office)
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To: 4yearlurker
"These folks stomp a human to death over Chinese plastic junk. Imagine if there is a food shortage."

Meltdown To Hit Agriculture, Food Shortage Looms

NEW DELHI: As if the global meltdown and soaring food prices are not enough, now brace up for food shortage in the coming two years.

Even as the world is struggling to fight global market meltdown with companies sacking employees and Industries scaling down production, the world will also have to tackle food shortage and soaring prices in the coming days.

According to United Nations’ Food and Agriculture Organization, the current financial crisis will adversely affect agricultural sectors in many countries, including India and other developing countries

[snip]

81 posted on 11/28/2008 7:51:14 AM PST by blam
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To: netmilsmom
“When I did do Walmart a few years ago, I was at the back of the line and when the doors opened, people rushed in from cars. They handle things badly.”
Most of the Walmarts are open all night anyways and don't keep people out. However, they have to have three times the normal amount of people working to prevent the asswipe customers from stealing all the blitz merchandise and hoarding everything. You can't keep asswipes from acting like asswipes, it's in their DNA.
82 posted on 11/28/2008 7:51:22 AM PST by bitterohiogunclinger (America held hostage - day 24)
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To: GQuagmire

When did people start acting like farm animals?


83 posted on 11/28/2008 7:53:15 AM PST by djf (The harsh reality of life is that reality is harsh.)
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To: Dr. Ursus
This Wal-Mart is mostly located in tha hood!

That's what I noticed while watching "World's Dumbest Shoppers" on TV last night. All of the Black Friday stampedes seemed to be of a certain, um, demographic.

84 posted on 11/28/2008 7:53:39 AM PST by Drew68
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To: Angry_White_Man_Syndrome
Wal-Mart could learn a lot from how Target ran thier Black Friday sales.

I imagine if Wal-Mart had the same people in their line that you were with, this wouldn't have happened.

85 posted on 11/28/2008 7:54:00 AM PST by Right Wing Assault ("..this administration is planning a 'Right Wing Assault' on values and ideals.." - John Kerry)
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To: netmilsmom
I half agree with both of you. Kids do not “own” property but IMO it's better to teach them to give to charity than forced redistribution because they have too much.
86 posted on 11/28/2008 7:56:13 AM PST by CindyDawg (Lord, please bless America)
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To: 4yearlurker
"These folks stomp a human to death over Chinese plastic junk. Imagine if there is a food shortage."

There is a reason I live out in the country with a well, septic, nice little bass lake and plenty of game of some sort around.

I worked my whole life not to be completely reliant on the system for everything from drinking water and sanitation to a meager source of nutrition for myself and family. Images like the one you just suggested just reinforce that decision. Now to make sure I have enough ammo...

87 posted on 11/28/2008 7:56:21 AM PST by Abathar (Proudly posting without reading the article carefully since 2004)
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To: BenLurkin

You are right. How does it look....


88 posted on 11/28/2008 7:57:20 AM PST by GQuagmire ( “A person is smart. People are dumb, panicky dangerous animals and you know it.”)
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To: bitterohiogunclinger

>>You can’t keep asswipes from acting like asswipes, it’s in their DNA.<<

Yes you can.
Take out the “first come first served”. Concerts have been doing it since the deaths in the 80s.

Give people numbers, hide the merchandise and hand it out from the back room.

Given that many of these people are
1) there for the gamble
2) Relling on ebay

This all needs to be controlled.


89 posted on 11/28/2008 7:57:20 AM PST by netmilsmom (Psalm 109:8 - Let his days be few; and let another take his office)
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To: Kirkwood; RetiredArmy

Kirkwood, children don’t own things while they are minor and live in their parent’s houses. It is all the parent’s. Even even given to the child. That’s the tradition and the law.


90 posted on 11/28/2008 7:57:32 AM PST by bvw
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To: atfblogger

I understand that Wal-Mart was putting out the word to their associates in the Electronics area to take the Wii systems in back so they would “have enough” on Friday.


91 posted on 11/28/2008 7:58:06 AM PST by Nextrush (Sarah Palin is the new Ronald Reagan.)
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To: CindyDawg

I agree.
But it sounded like the parents didn’t know that lesson to teach it.


92 posted on 11/28/2008 7:59:15 AM PST by netmilsmom (Psalm 109:8 - Let his days be few; and let another take his office)
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To: GQuagmire; Admin Moderator

bad link.


93 posted on 11/28/2008 7:59:20 AM PST by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!
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To: djf
"When did people start acting like farm animals?"

Certain types of people seem to display that trait far more than others. If you were to have the exact same situation here in rural Indiana then this never would have happened.

Okay, perhaps if they were putting ammo or John Deere parts on sale at 80% off, but certainly not for some cheap Chinese plastic crap.

94 posted on 11/28/2008 8:00:28 AM PST by Abathar (Proudly posting without reading the article carefully since 2004)
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Yikes!
Make that “reselling” on ebay


95 posted on 11/28/2008 8:00:28 AM PST by netmilsmom (Psalm 109:8 - Let his days be few; and let another take his office)
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To: GQuagmire

Excellent (but you got a little coding/punctuation glitch......)


96 posted on 11/28/2008 8:00:31 AM PST by BenLurkin
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To: NoObamaFightForConservatives

Got it from Drudge. You’ll be able to see it there


97 posted on 11/28/2008 8:00:50 AM PST by GQuagmire ( “A person is smart. People are dumb, panicky dangerous animals and you know it.”)
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To: new cruelty

Agreed.


98 posted on 11/28/2008 8:00:55 AM PST by cweese (Hook 'em Horns!!!)
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To: Kirkwood
“Can you imagine when the man fell that people next to him saw it and still walked right over him.”

I was in a crowd like this. Scary. Once it gets moving, you are powerless. It is impossible to do anything but keep your feet moving and try not to fall. You can't move your arms. They are pinned to your sides. If someone falls, you can't even bend down to help them. Even if you could, you would be knocked over and become another fatality. Advice? Don't get in a crowd like this.

99 posted on 11/28/2008 8:01:11 AM PST by Right Wing Assault ("..this administration is planning a 'Right Wing Assault' on values and ideals.." - John Kerry)
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To: BenLurkin

Better?


100 posted on 11/28/2008 8:01:41 AM PST by GQuagmire ( A person is smart. People are dumb, panicky dangerous animals and you know it.)
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