Skip to comments.Justice Clarence Thomas and the Obama factor
Posted on 11/29/2008 8:26:48 AM PST by ckilmer
November 29, 2008
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As has been illustrated with photos on many threads, 0bama's facial features resemble those of Frank Davis far more than those of Barack 0bama Sr.
Yes, and he looks even more like his other reputed father, Malcolm X.
But that still doesn’t mean he’s a US citizen, if he gave up his citizenship to become an Indonesian, and never took any action to recover it when he returned to Hawaii.
Davis or Malcolm X or probably about 10 million African Americans more so than any of the Obamas!
OTOH, aren't a lot of his records inaccessible as well. Have we seen his tax records even? I know a lot of other documentation has not been made available.
My understanding is that he’d only have lost his US citizenship if he’d gone into something like a US embassy in Indonesia and denounced it there. Simply whispering allegiance into the ear of another non-enemy country is not enough to be stripped of US citizenship rights.
Hey! Did they ever really prove he went to Pakistan on an Indonesian passport? I had heard it speculated due to travel rules at the time, but never anything concrete.
I’ve seen this ban on travel plaster around the net but have yet to see a link to the governmental ban disallowing the travel. If you ever see a link to that ban please ping me to it. I’ve done a limited search for the ban but haven’t been successful in finding it.
In the 6 years prior to running for office he gave 1% in donations (give or take 1/10th of %)
It wasn't until the last 2 years when he was running for POTUS, and that he made big money from his books, that he gave about 4% and 6%.
Dang he's generous (with other peoples money).
Nah. I have a little more confidence in Justices Alito, Scalia, Thomas, Chief Justice Roberts and Leo Donofrio.
The Legislative and Executive (to be) Branches are abusing the electorate and citizenry on this issue. Our only recourse is the Judical Branch to stop the abuse.
The Framers of the Constitution were very concerned about someone like Obama with possible divided loyalties, etc. If Leo gets his day in court he will argue that passionately. Follow what the Framers wrote in the Constitution or it is meaningless.
Please, if you know any Black people show them pictures of Obama, Davis, and Malcolm and ask them if they see any special resemblance.
Or if that's too risky, show your African-American friend pictures of randomly selected Whites and ask them if they notice any family resemblances. You might be surprised.
That goes with the territory. Think Earl Warren was free from looking over his shoulder? There is no doubt there are men of integrity on the court who take their duty very seriously.
What you describe as “not happening” is correct but that is because it does not fit the constitutional mechanism designed to handle such a case.
No matter what Joe Biden is elected VP and will be comfirmed as such. If Zero is found ineligible then Biden becomes Acting President until an eligible candidate is certified for the Presidency. That candidate can only come from the top three receivers of electoral votes: McCain, MCcain and Mccain. I’m rooting for McCain. Then we have a McCain-Biden administration which should piss off just about the entire nation.
I file that kind of story in the “completely unproven” folder until there’s more evidence. But I don’t just throw it away. All I said is that he certainly looks more like Malcolm X than Obama Sr. or Frank Marshall Davis, although Davis also looks likelier than Obama Sr.
But in any case it must be said that Obama does NOT look much like Obama, Sr. For one thing, if you look at a photo of him on the beach in Hawaii in a bathing suit, he is very nearly white, with darker hands and face like someone with a deep tan, maybe even a tanning machine. Yes, it’s theoretically possible to be the child of a white person and a very dark African and be as white as Obama is, but it’s not terribly likely. You are talking about a number of dominant and recessive genes.
Stanley Ann appears to have been a student at the University of Washington at about the time obama was conceived, and the family moved to Hawaii later. That doesn’t mean anything either, until more investigation is done (was she actually in Seattle at the time she was registered there?) but it’s another minor straw in the wind.
In any case, it’s less significant than the issue of the missing birth certificate. That’s the issue that matters. Is he a natural born citizen?
Frantzie, you’re a fairly recent signup, and give the impression of being in close communication with Leo Donofrio. What is your relationship with him?
Also, several of us have not forgotten that strange “Leo’s being threatened with assassination by Islamic terrorists and is in hiding” thing. What the heck was that all about, since you posted one of the two threads making that claim?
The Constitution is pretty much tissue paper to just about all who serve in Washington, DC, these days. As no God fearing man is even close to the city. The remaining polcats drag it out when is seems consistent with what they want, and decry a decrepit old document when not. Forget about the SCOTUS (clearly the most cowardly branch of government) deciding to impede the march to total socialism or Nazism under an illegitimate executive because the Constitution has some stinking phrase about “natural born”.
That's true. You're also talking about a whole variety of pictures of Obama that don't necessarily show the same thing.
A picture of him in the same pose that Malcolm X was photographed in gets people thinking, but it's just one picture. A photo of Obama on the beach on a sunny day will be several shades lighter than a picture of him taken indoors.
But what stands out for me is that the shape of his head is more like that of an East or South African than of a West African, and most American Blacks are of West African ancestry.
So it looks more likely to me that he'd be the son of a Kenyan, than of an African-American. I don't see much of a resemblance between father and son, but you may find similarities if you look further in the family, recessive traits that would be more common in East Africans than in African-Americans.
Whether Obama is or isn't Obama Sr.'s son, I don't think experts would make much of the Davis or Malcolm X theories.
In any case, its less significant than the issue of the missing birth certificate. Thats the issue that matters. Is he a natural born citizen?
True, but I suspect what will come out of all of this is that his parents weren't married when he was born, or maybe even that his father wasn't his real birth father, not that he was born in Kenya.
ping for future reference
Since there is no necessity that Obama’s BC be made public as it need only be reviewed by a judge there is much more there than mere embarassment. I suspect.
I do not know Leo. I am a big fan because Leo is trying to expose a huge fraud, stand up for Americans, protect the Constitution and he is encouraging us to take the power back from the corrupt political parties. The GOP is better than the DNC but not much when they stuck us with a RINO for the election. Obama lied but on taxes he sounded more Reagan than McCain. Oh and thanks for McCain-Feingold. I am no fan of the McCain, Charlie Crist, Mel Martinez, Arlen Specter, Lindsay Graham amnesty wing of the party.
Leo’s guts compares to a few keyboard commando defeatist whiners here who say “nothing is gonna be done.” Leo is one man standing up for America and fortunately more patriots have come out of the woodwork like Cort.
Leo is like a citizen’s version of Justice Scalia. They realize the importance and the genius of the Constitution. Some of the jackasses saying “nothing will be done” should listen to Leo’s archived shows on Plains Radio. The guy is freaking inspiring.
Maybe I am naive but I think Scalia, Thomas, Alito, Roberts and hopefully Kennedy “get it” about the Constitution and the recent fraud that has occurred.
Leo has a lot of ba*ls to stand up to the OBot thugs. He has talked about how the citizens need to take the country back from the DNC and GOP. He is right. He is saying the things conservative talks show hosts should be saying.
I have listened to Leo on Plains Radio, I think, every time he has been on the show. The guy cares and has a real passion for The Constitution. He “gets it” plus he has stuck his neck out when many have engaged in cowardice including our conservative talk show “heroes.” I have no communication with Leo. BTW - I heard on Plains Radio that Cort from CT was either a poster or lurker on FR. He is another good guy.
The people at Plains are one of a few that are taking any chances on the radio. Lan Lanphere was also but he is a nitwit who had Berg on then bashed him. Had Leo on then bashed him. Lan is an ass.
As far as being a newbie - I gave plenty of money to try to help get RINO McCain elected. Mainly as a vote against O. As Reagan once said “I paid for this microphone.”
My choices would have been:
1. Tancredo or Fred or Duncan Hunter
5. Paul (probably a lot higher if he had a chance)
Just kidding about Kuncinich.
The death threat stuff was on Ed Hale’s blog on Plains Radio. Ed is a good guy, from what I can tell, but he seems to get a bit “worked up.” He claimed he had talked to a NC Congresswoman. Leo said he was fine but Ed semes to almost tell a few tall tales. I quite sure I provided a link to Plains Radio’s web site when I posted the message.
Theyd have to look over their shoulders for the rest of their lives. Thered be too many people who would want to get revenge for the Supreme Courts decision."
If they care about the Constitution, they will.
All they have to do is force the issue and ensure that NObama is a natural born citizen; and approved by a neutral party of observers.
Until then, I only believe Grandma Sarah that NObama was born in Kenya.
Meanwhile................the MSM is SURE quiet on this issue..........