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Justice Clarence Thomas and the Obama factor
Family Security Matters ^ | Saturday, November 29 | Dave Bertrand,

Posted on 11/29/2008 8:26:48 AM PST by ckilmer

November 29, 2008

Oval Office Watch – Saturday, November 29

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See facts concerning Obama’s missing birth certificate RIGHT HERE.
Justice Clarence Thomas and the Obama factor
Dave Bertrand, Traffic
The Obama "conspiracy theory" is reaching new heights beyond anyone's comprehension...or at least the comprehension of those that voted for this dynamic man. Dynamic in the sense that our Supreme Court on December 5th, will either put this all to rest and the voters will continue to believe in their messiah, or it will turn this country upside down. With many lawsuits backing-up and Justice Clarence Thomas now coming forth to unravel the dynamics of this conspiracy, our constitution is in crisis, but this is also an opportunity for the "World President" Barack Hussein Obama, Barry Soetero, Dunham or whatever his name is to forge ahead with his quote unquote, "International Order" which means "The New World Order."
But that's just ridiculous thinking and there's no way our government would allow a non-citizen to scam his way into the presidency?? And of course Bill Clinton "did not have sex with that woman," or George H. Bush didn't mean that "read my new taxes" was just a slip of the tongue, and Nixon was truthful when he said that he was "not a crook." Every president has lied and this president-elect may be slicker than willy himself, or more than any president we have ever had.
Simple enough for president-elect Obama to put this all to rest himself, is to provide his college records, medical records and the super secret vault birth certificate that is being kept under seal of being (possibly), the biggest embarrassment of this country's history and a major let-down to the African/American community that deserve a president, much like the charisma that Obama displays. Should he get a "free pass" if he is lying? In my opinion...this whole Obama conspiracy cannot be contained by both the corporate media and both the republican and democratic parties, and like most conspiracies....the "powers at be" will just get to the point with the American people and say, "so what!! What are you going to do about it??"  
"Barack Hussein Obama, Barry Soetero, Barry Obama, Barack Dunham and Barry Dunham are all names that our president-elect has been known to use throughout his life."
"It has been shown that in 1981 Obama traveled to Pakistan using an Indonesian passport. At the time of his travels to Indonesia, Obama was twenty years old. He was well aware he maintained his Indonesian citizenship, and had yet to regain his United States citizenship. Indonesia does not allow dual citizenship."
"The Obama campaign took great delight in pointing out that John McCain ranked 894th out of a graduating class of 899 at the U.S. Naval Academy. However do you know where Mr. Obama ranked in his graduating class at Occidental, Columbia or Harvard? You don’t know because Obama would not release any of his school records."
"A case that challenges President-elect Barack Obama’s name on the 2008 election ballot citing questions over his citizenship has been scheduled for a “conference” at the U.S. Supreme Court." [Scheduled for December 5th, 2008] Read article.

TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government
KEYWORDS: birthcertificate; certifigate; obama; thomas
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To: BlessedBeGod

That goes with the territory. Think Earl Warren was free from looking over his shoulder? There is no doubt there are men of integrity on the court who take their duty very seriously.

51 posted on 11/29/2008 11:45:33 AM PST by arrogantsob (Hero vs Zero)
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To: zarodinu

What you describe as “not happening” is correct but that is because it does not fit the constitutional mechanism designed to handle such a case.

No matter what Joe Biden is elected VP and will be comfirmed as such. If Zero is found ineligible then Biden becomes Acting President until an eligible candidate is certified for the Presidency. That candidate can only come from the top three receivers of electoral votes: McCain, MCcain and Mccain. I’m rooting for McCain. Then we have a McCain-Biden administration which should piss off just about the entire nation.

52 posted on 11/29/2008 11:53:21 AM PST by arrogantsob (Hero vs Zero)
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To: x

I file that kind of story in the “completely unproven” folder until there’s more evidence. But I don’t just throw it away. All I said is that he certainly looks more like Malcolm X than Obama Sr. or Frank Marshall Davis, although Davis also looks likelier than Obama Sr.

But in any case it must be said that Obama does NOT look much like Obama, Sr. For one thing, if you look at a photo of him on the beach in Hawaii in a bathing suit, he is very nearly white, with darker hands and face like someone with a deep tan, maybe even a tanning machine. Yes, it’s theoretically possible to be the child of a white person and a very dark African and be as white as Obama is, but it’s not terribly likely. You are talking about a number of dominant and recessive genes.

Stanley Ann appears to have been a student at the University of Washington at about the time obama was conceived, and the family moved to Hawaii later. That doesn’t mean anything either, until more investigation is done (was she actually in Seattle at the time she was registered there?) but it’s another minor straw in the wind.

In any case, it’s less significant than the issue of the missing birth certificate. That’s the issue that matters. Is he a natural born citizen?

53 posted on 11/29/2008 12:29:53 PM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: Frantzie

Frantzie, you’re a fairly recent signup, and give the impression of being in close communication with Leo Donofrio. What is your relationship with him?

Also, several of us have not forgotten that strange “Leo’s being threatened with assassination by Islamic terrorists and is in hiding” thing. What the heck was that all about, since you posted one of the two threads making that claim?

54 posted on 11/29/2008 1:22:30 PM PST by RegulatorCountry
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To: real_patriotic_american

The Constitution is pretty much tissue paper to just about all who serve in Washington, DC, these days. As no God fearing man is even close to the city. The remaining polcats drag it out when is seems consistent with what they want, and decry a decrepit old document when not. Forget about the SCOTUS (clearly the most cowardly branch of government) deciding to impede the march to total socialism or Nazism under an illegitimate executive because the Constitution has some stinking phrase about “natural born”.

55 posted on 11/29/2008 1:43:26 PM PST by GregoryFul
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To: Cicero
You are talking about a number of dominant and recessive genes.

That's true. You're also talking about a whole variety of pictures of Obama that don't necessarily show the same thing.

A picture of him in the same pose that Malcolm X was photographed in gets people thinking, but it's just one picture. A photo of Obama on the beach on a sunny day will be several shades lighter than a picture of him taken indoors.

But what stands out for me is that the shape of his head is more like that of an East or South African than of a West African, and most American Blacks are of West African ancestry.

So it looks more likely to me that he'd be the son of a Kenyan, than of an African-American. I don't see much of a resemblance between father and son, but you may find similarities if you look further in the family, recessive traits that would be more common in East Africans than in African-Americans.

Whether Obama is or isn't Obama Sr.'s son, I don't think experts would make much of the Davis or Malcolm X theories.

In any case, it’s less significant than the issue of the missing birth certificate. That’s the issue that matters. Is he a natural born citizen?

True, but I suspect what will come out of all of this is that his parents weren't married when he was born, or maybe even that his father wasn't his real birth father, not that he was born in Kenya.

56 posted on 11/29/2008 1:49:52 PM PST by x
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To: autumnraine

ping for future reference

57 posted on 11/29/2008 3:18:11 PM PST by pgobrien (Corruptissima republica plurimae leges)
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To: x

Since there is no necessity that Obama’s BC be made public as it need only be reviewed by a judge there is much more there than mere embarassment. I suspect.

58 posted on 11/29/2008 3:34:54 PM PST by arrogantsob (Hero vs Zero)
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To: RegulatorCountry

I do not know Leo. I am a big fan because Leo is trying to expose a huge fraud, stand up for Americans, protect the Constitution and he is encouraging us to take the power back from the corrupt political parties. The GOP is better than the DNC but not much when they stuck us with a RINO for the election. Obama lied but on taxes he sounded more Reagan than McCain. Oh and thanks for McCain-Feingold. I am no fan of the McCain, Charlie Crist, Mel Martinez, Arlen Specter, Lindsay Graham amnesty wing of the party.

Leo’s guts compares to a few keyboard commando defeatist whiners here who say “nothing is gonna be done.” Leo is one man standing up for America and fortunately more patriots have come out of the woodwork like Cort.

Leo is like a citizen’s version of Justice Scalia. They realize the importance and the genius of the Constitution. Some of the jackasses saying “nothing will be done” should listen to Leo’s archived shows on Plains Radio. The guy is freaking inspiring.

Maybe I am naive but I think Scalia, Thomas, Alito, Roberts and hopefully Kennedy “get it” about the Constitution and the recent fraud that has occurred.

Leo has a lot of ba*ls to stand up to the OBot thugs. He has talked about how the citizens need to take the country back from the DNC and GOP. He is right. He is saying the things conservative talks show hosts should be saying.

I have listened to Leo on Plains Radio, I think, every time he has been on the show. The guy cares and has a real passion for The Constitution. He “gets it” plus he has stuck his neck out when many have engaged in cowardice including our conservative talk show “heroes.” I have no communication with Leo. BTW - I heard on Plains Radio that Cort from CT was either a poster or lurker on FR. He is another good guy.

The people at Plains are one of a few that are taking any chances on the radio. Lan Lanphere was also but he is a nitwit who had Berg on then bashed him. Had Leo on then bashed him. Lan is an ass.

As far as being a newbie - I gave plenty of money to try to help get RINO McCain elected. Mainly as a vote against O. As Reagan once said “I paid for this microphone.”

My choices would have been:
1. Tancredo or Fred or Duncan Hunter
2. Romney
3. Rudy
4. Huck
5. Paul (probably a lot higher if he had a chance)
6. Kucinich
7. McCain

Just kidding about Kuncinich.

The death threat stuff was on Ed Hale’s blog on Plains Radio. Ed is a good guy, from what I can tell, but he seems to get a bit “worked up.” He claimed he had talked to a NC Congresswoman. Leo said he was fine but Ed semes to almost tell a few tall tales. I quite sure I provided a link to Plains Radio’s web site when I posted the message.

59 posted on 11/29/2008 4:16:06 PM PST by Frantzie
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To: BlessedBeGod
"I don’t believe that the Justices will declare him ineligible.

They’d have to look over their shoulders for the rest of their lives. There’d be too many people who would want to get revenge for the Supreme Court’s decision."

If they care about the Constitution, they will.

All they have to do is force the issue and ensure that NObama is a natural born citizen; and approved by a neutral party of observers.
Until then, I only believe Grandma Sarah that NObama was born in Kenya.

Meanwhile................the MSM is SURE quiet on this issue..........

60 posted on 11/29/2008 5:02:35 PM PST by NoRedTape
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To: Frantzie

Alright, then. Thank you for your reply. We’re about to undergo intense scrutiny; we already are if the volume of “give up, it’s hopeless” posters that just signed up the same day is any indication. But, there are less obvious ways to troll. It’s only going to get worse as the MSM hitpieces really get rolling.

61 posted on 11/29/2008 5:05:10 PM PST by RegulatorCountry
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To: RegulatorCountry

Oh I am prepared. Leo, Cort and the others out there are risking even more and they are all brave as hell.

I hope the Justices have the same bravery Leo is showing.

The O-Bots have been hitting/attacking Leo’s web sites. I think he is on his 4th or 5th web site. They have hit Plains Radio, lan Lanphere (who is a wack job) and others to try to silence Leo.

The newbie give it ups are here but some negative old timers are here as well. God help us if they were around during the Revolutionary War. We would still be drinking tea and being taxed heavily for it.

62 posted on 11/29/2008 6:24:40 PM PST by Frantzie
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To: BlessedBeGod

So, you are saying they are cowards?

63 posted on 11/29/2008 6:31:33 PM PST by FreeAtlanta (Join the Constitution Party)
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To: autumnraine

I have never seen a ban on civilian or official government travel to Indonesia. The last time I remember there being problems in that area was when East Timor had some civil unrest during this elections, but even then, I don’t think that any type of travel to Indonesia was banned.

64 posted on 11/29/2008 7:16:48 PM PST by Valentine_W
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To: Frantzie

I do wish that you are right.

But I know better.

You have only ticked off four of the NINE Justices. Even if this case does go to trial (or whatever it is called), it will lose.

The potential Constitutional crisis this would cause if Leo won would be FAR worse that what happened in the 2001 election.

If Leo won just what would happen? Biden? McCain? someone else??

If the winner is anyone but The One, I can’t even imagine what might happen. Yeah... if race riots broke out it would prove just what kind of people those rioting are. But that doesn’t mean they wouldn’t riot.

It would be very similar to the situation with Islam, where some moderates call for calm... but the radicals still riot.

And if, by some miracle, they don’t riot, there would be more calls of “they stole the election” for ever. Republicans would be seen as evil.

Never mind the fact that when Obama is sworn in that he will have stolen this election. Only the far right will be screaming about it. Look how little play this is getting in any media, including talk radio. Almost nada.

And when you come down to it, except for possibly appointing some new Justices, there isn’t THAT much difference between McCain and Obama. Both will grant amnesty to illegals. Obama isn’t going to pull out of Iraq early like he lied. Yeah, I voted for McCain, but I don’t think that much will be different. With a Dem controlled Congress, there isn’t much McCain could do in the end.

So I think the whole thing is a waste of time.

Except it IS great fun to watch! :)

65 posted on 11/30/2008 5:00:16 AM PST by aj7360
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To: tioga

“I believe they will stand by the constitution.”

I think you’re right.

Are not all public officials sworn to “... preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States”?

66 posted on 12/02/2008 11:30:55 AM PST by OldNavyVet (Character counts)
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