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Jindal Now Targeted by National Mainstream Media
Between the Lines weblog ^ | November 30, 2008 | Jeffrey D. Sadow

Posted on 12/02/2008 5:05:53 AM PST by Wonder Warthog

Wonder why the media have been looking at Republican presidential contenders for three years, 11 months from now, and paying quite a bit of attention to Louisiana Gov. Bobby Jindal? The push on to make him the frontrunner way in advance has more to do with the left’s agenda than covering a good horse race.

Ever since Jindal succumbed to the electoral politics bug, liberals have recognized the danger he presents to their agenda. Jindal does not apologize for his conservatism but neither does he come off as much of an ideologue; he articulates it well both at a philosophical level but also in terms that demonstrate its superiority to the typical citizen; and, worst of all from the liberal perspective, his life to date explodes the myths of racism and upper-class warfare that liberals desperately want to con Americans into thinking, particularly when it comes to conservatives and Republicans.

The only missing ingredient that could make Jindal a virulent political force against liberalism, now with its most complete control over policy-making at the federal level in history, is a sustained record of success in governance. A candidate with this quality not only would win a decision in 2012 over president-elect Barack Obama, given that Obama appears at this point not be to wavering from his stated agenda, but would score a Reaganesque knockout of Democrats and liberals.

Smart liberals know two things, that if they really do try to implement their agenda they are going to make quite a mess of things principally economically, and that they cannot allow conservative candidates with credibility who effectively communicate the flaws and internal contradictions of liberalism contrasted to conservatism to emerge to point out the problems the undiluted Obama agenda is sure to bring. As things go sour on many fronts, they have to be able to distort and to distract to deflect the public from making this realization.

If Jindal can establish a good governing record to go along with superior communication, liberals lose. They can’t do much about the communication aspect, but they can try to frame Jindal’s record. And this is where the media, who will provide many willing, if not eager, allies, can come into play.

By focusing on Jindal now, they want to be there every step of the way to control the public’s image of him. This is a longer-term version of the tactic utilized against Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin in the wake of her vice presidential nomination, where because of the compressed nature of the campaign quicker hits with less time for rebuttal from forces outside of the media made her easier prey. With Jindal, they want to be able to spot episodes that potentially can be exploitable to damage Jindal’s credibility, and only through constant monitoring can this be maximized.

History shows that the presumed “frontrunners” in presidential nomination contests often fare poorly, precisely because there is so much attention paid to them that any warts discovered can be emphasized time and time again to fatigue potential supporters. Worse for Jindal, that he is an ethnic minority member and conservative invites, if history is any guide, even more media scrutiny and criticism (such as that paid to another potential GOP presidential candidate of the future, former Ohio Sec. of State Ken Blackwell).

So let’s recognize this mainstream media attention for what it is for many: the opening salvo of a national campaign that hopes to neutralize Jindal as a force to be reckoned with in 2012. Whether he will be able to resist that will depend in part on his political skills, and some may be fortune simply beyond his control. Regardless, the battle is commenced.


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KEYWORDS: 2012electionbias; abuseofpower; dnctalkingpoints; howtostealanelection; jindal; media; partisanpress; stalinisttactics; yellowjournalism; zogbyism
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The MSM is thinking ahead.
1 posted on 12/02/2008 5:05:53 AM PST by Wonder Warthog
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To: Wonder Warthog

I guess it’s open season on Indians.


2 posted on 12/02/2008 5:12:08 AM PST by albie
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To: Wonder Warthog
The only missing ingredient that could make Jindal a virulent political force against liberalism, now with its most complete control over policy-making at the federal level in history, is a sustained record of success in governance.

The MSM will try their damned best to make sure that does not happen..................

3 posted on 12/02/2008 5:15:02 AM PST by Red Badger (Never has a man risen so far, so fast and is expected to do so much, for so many, with so little...)
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To: Wonder Warthog

We need to get the voter registration revved up for 2010 and elect conservatives to both houses!


4 posted on 12/02/2008 5:17:00 AM PST by quintr
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To: Wonder Warthog

“The MSM is thinking ahead.”

Yep. They don’t want to be caught unaware again, like they were with Sarah. With her, they had to work on short notice and burn a lot of overtime in their efforts to destroy her. With Jindal they get a head start. They’ll probably attack his faith; I understand he’s a fundamental Catholic.


5 posted on 12/02/2008 5:17:09 AM PST by ScottinVA (Gloucester County, VA -- Standing for America! 63% for McCain-Palin on 4 Nov)
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To: Wonder Warthog
The MSM is thinking ahead.

I wonder if the GOP is?

6 posted on 12/02/2008 5:18:55 AM PST by raybbr (You think it's bad now - wait till the anchor babies start to vote!)
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To: Wonder Warthog
they want to be there every step of the way to control the public’s image of him.

"They" seek to control the public's perceptions and thought processes. "They" seek to control the court of public opinion. "They" are the enemy.
7 posted on 12/02/2008 5:21:09 AM PST by Canedawg (The media is a ass, a idiot.," said Mr. Bumble.)
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To: albie

It’s open season on anyone with an R after their name.


8 posted on 12/02/2008 5:23:38 AM PST by Conservativegreatgrandma (When the righteous rule, the people rejoice; when the wicked rule the people mourn. Proverbs 29;2)
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To: Wonder Warthog

Guess they want to dominate the press with only “state” run media (and when the press is 97% in bed with the DNC on news stories, colluding on public perception, and the Democrats have all the branches of government, it IS defacto state run media) just like their boy Chavez.


9 posted on 12/02/2008 5:31:08 AM PST by weegee (Sec. of State Clinton. What kind of change is it to keep the Bush-Clinton-Bush-Clinton Oligarchy?)
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To: Canedawg

They are Socialists and They do as Socialists always do. Lie.


10 posted on 12/02/2008 5:33:00 AM PST by weegee (Sec. of State Clinton. What kind of change is it to keep the Bush-Clinton-Bush-Clinton Oligarchy?)
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To: little jeremiah; Indian_Fighter_Kite; Knitting A Conundrum; Hari prasad; MimirsWell

The pseudo secular media!

Kurukshetra War - Kali Yuga ping...

To be added to or removed from this ping list, please FReepmail Sir Francis Dashwood.

11 posted on 12/02/2008 5:33:35 AM PST by Sir Francis Dashwood (Arjuna, why have you have dropped your bow???)
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To: raybbr
I wonder if the GOP is?

Who?

What is a GOP?
12 posted on 12/02/2008 5:35:15 AM PST by j_k_l
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To: albie
I guess it’s open season on Indians.

See #11...

The Marxist/Maoists are in league with thw terrorists.

13 posted on 12/02/2008 5:36:12 AM PST by Sir Francis Dashwood (Arjuna, why have you have dropped your bow???)
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To: Wonder Warthog

Smart liberals..... an oxymoron. If they were smart, they wouldn’t be liberals.


14 posted on 12/02/2008 5:37:13 AM PST by Ouderkirk (Never underestimate the ability of a liberal to deny reality and attempt to change the rules to do s)
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To: ScottinVA
Since he's a scholar with a high IQ, they'll have to use a different tactic than the one employed on Sarah Palin. More than likely it will be to leverage Sarah against Bobby -the divide and conquer approach. In other words, the MSM will claim that the GOP is divided - leaning to the "tacky, unintelligent, just-a-mom" Palin, so Jindal will split the votes. And, the media will convince the party not to take her on as a running mate because, "she'll bring him down."

Sadly, the GOP will buy into the game and turn in on themselves.

15 posted on 12/02/2008 5:40:26 AM PST by anniegetyourgun
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Right on. Roll with it, Bobby.

Jindal/Palin 2012.

16 posted on 12/02/2008 5:54:34 AM PST by NoRedTape
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To: Wonder Warthog
The MSM is thinking ahead.

And so should we. It's time to starve the MSM to death!

17 posted on 12/02/2008 6:09:46 AM PST by SMM48
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To: Wonder Warthog

The only missing ingredient that could make Jindal a virulent political force against liberalism, now with its most complete control over policy-making at the federal level in history, is a sustained record of success in governance.


At least this writer understands that Jindal to date hasn’t been in any job for any extended period of time, maybe three years or so. If Jindal is successful as the Gov. of La then he may have a shot at the Presidency.

I’m not too sure that Obama will be dismissed so quickly in 2012 if the economy turns around and the country is on the upswing and nothing major happens around the world. He’ll get the kudos for bringing the country back from economic chaos, imo.


18 posted on 12/02/2008 6:11:04 AM PST by deport
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To: Wonder Warthog

One of my relatives, who is a staunch Democrat, actually has nice things to say about Jindal.


19 posted on 12/02/2008 6:19:42 AM PST by randita
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To: randita

Is there a Jindal ping list? If so, someone add me please. He’s the GOP’s best (only) hope for 2012.


20 posted on 12/02/2008 6:38:05 AM PST by VA_Gentleman ("There are sheep, and there are wolves. In the end, the wolves always win." - Col. Ripley, RIP)
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To: Wonder Warthog

They distroyed George Allen.


21 posted on 12/02/2008 6:39:16 AM PST by CPT Clay (Drill ANWR, Personal Accounts NOW ,)
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To: VA_Gentleman
"Is there a Jindal ping list? If so, someone add me please. He’s the GOP’s best (only) hope for 2012."

If the GOP (or Jindal) was REALLY bright, they (or he) would be making a deal with Sarah Palin NOW to run as a "ticket" of Jindal/Palin. Jindal is the better qualified, but Palin exudes charisma. The combo would be the liberals nightmare.

22 posted on 12/02/2008 6:47:16 AM PST by Wonder Warthog ( The Hog of Steel)
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To: Red Badger

“The only missing ingredient that could make Jindal a virulent political force against liberalism, now with its most complete control over policy-making at the federal level in history, is a sustained record of success in governance.”

Not an obstacle for BO, of course.


23 posted on 12/02/2008 7:07:02 AM PST by Magic Fingers
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To: Magic Fingers
And why is this not a plus for Sarah Palin, Governor of Alaska, too?..........
24 posted on 12/02/2008 7:09:16 AM PST by Red Badger (Never has a man risen so far, so fast and is expected to do so much, for so many, with so little...)
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To: Wonder Warthog

Jindal is the left’s nightmare because he’s not a stuffy old white guy and he’s smarter, younger, more thoughtful, more qualified and more likeable than Obama.

It’s not surprising the MSM wants to tear him down early. However, being that Jindal is has a higher IQ than all the MSM heads put together, he’ll manuever around them quite nicely for the next 4 years.


25 posted on 12/02/2008 7:14:19 AM PST by JenB987
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To: JenB987
"However, being that Jindal is has a higher IQ than all the MSM heads put together, he’ll manuever around them quite nicely for the next 4 years."

Actually, I'm of the opinion that if you killed off all the MSM talking heads, that the collective IQ of the US would rise substantially.

26 posted on 12/02/2008 7:45:26 AM PST by Wonder Warthog ( The Hog of Steel)
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To: Wonder Warthog

I can’t argue with that!


27 posted on 12/02/2008 7:46:24 AM PST by JenB987
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To: Wonder Warthog

I guess this means Jindal has officaily arived.


28 posted on 12/02/2008 7:47:11 AM PST by lnzog (They want your money)
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To: Wonder Warthog
Jindal is the better qualified...

How so?

29 posted on 12/02/2008 7:53:28 AM PST by numberonepal (Don't Even Think About Treading On Me)
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To: CPT Clay
"They distroyed George Allen."

Yes, and they destroyed Rick Santorum. Couldn't be elected dog catcher in his hometown once the local TV and newspapers worked on him daily for 4 yrs. The amazing part is how popular he was before that with Reagan Democrats in W PA. The media, and Soros, Heinz, et.al., turned him into someone unrecognizable with the propaganda machine they control. They'll do the same to Palin and Jindal long before '12 arrives.

30 posted on 12/02/2008 7:55:49 AM PST by penowa
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To: Wonder Warthog
Jindal Now Targeted by National Mainstream Media

This comes as no surprise.

The Communist/Marxist/Leninist/Liberal/Socialist/Progressive MSM will attempt to destroy every Conservative Republican.

The MSM is the lying propaganda machine of the Democrat party. They are proud of the way they have destroyed Geo W Bush.

They will now attempt to destroy all Conservative Republicans so that none win in any 2010 or 2012 elections.

It is war! Conservative Republicans need to take back our party.

31 posted on 12/02/2008 7:59:06 AM PST by Dustbunny (Freedom prospers when religion is vibrant and the rule of law under God is acknowledged. The Gipper)
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To: numberonepal
"How so? "

Much higher level of accomplishment at all levels throughout his career. Academic, private sector, government department head, Congressman, and now governor. His performance this past year during the hurricane onslaught on Louisiana was exceptional from a real leadership standpoint. I like Palin a lot, but her record doesn't begin to match Jindal's.

32 posted on 12/02/2008 8:17:29 AM PST by Wonder Warthog ( The Hog of Steel)
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To: Wonder Warthog
Oh I see because he has more government experience he's better qualified. Gotcha.
33 posted on 12/02/2008 8:20:51 AM PST by numberonepal (Don't Even Think About Treading On Me)
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To: numberonepal
"Oh I see because he has more government experience he's better qualified. Gotcha."

No. Because the level of accomplishment exhibited in ALL the things he has done have been better. Palin just doesn't compare (for that matter, neither does McCain). The one past candidate who I think comes close to matching Jindal's record is Romney, and he is far less conservative.

34 posted on 12/02/2008 8:40:52 AM PST by Wonder Warthog ( The Hog of Steel)
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To: Wonder Warthog
Depends on how they end up defining "natural born citizen" whether he will qualify to be POTUS.

Jindal's parents were not U.S. citizens when he was born. He is a citizen by birth. If the Supreme Count bothers to determine Obama's status, we should have a heads up on Jindal's qualifications.

Read Defining Natural-Born Citizen by P.A. Madison before dismissing this.

35 posted on 12/02/2008 8:52:11 AM PST by christie
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To: Wonder Warthog

What exactly is Jindal’s citizen/natural born status?


36 posted on 12/02/2008 9:25:31 AM PST by little jeremiah (Leave illusion, come to the truth. Leave the darkness, come to the light.)
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I really need to read to the end of the threads before asking questions that are already answered or discussed.


37 posted on 12/02/2008 9:26:09 AM PST by little jeremiah (Leave illusion, come to the truth. Leave the darkness, come to the light.)
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To: christie; little jeremiah

There are no surprises about Jindal’s “natural born citizen” status. He was definitely born in Baton Rouge, and thus qualifies.


38 posted on 12/02/2008 9:39:41 AM PST by Wonder Warthog ( The Hog of Steel)
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To: Wonder Warthog

Bump, for the see I told you so naysayers...


39 posted on 12/02/2008 9:39:56 AM PST by stevie_d_64
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To: deport
. . .the economy turns around and the country is on the upswing and nothing major happens around the world.

Hee, hee, hee, ha, ha, ha, ho, ho, ha, ha, ha. . . .

40 posted on 12/02/2008 9:58:16 AM PST by MSSC6644 (Defeat Satan. Pray the Rosary)
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To: Wonder Warthog
Jindal is a U.S. citizen by birth, a native citizen, not a natural born citizen (probably). His parents were recently from India, thus he would have divided loyalties, as did Obama with his father being a student from Kenya.

As I said, read Defining Natural-Born Citizen by P.A. Madison. Some excerpts:

The adoption of the Fourteenth Amendment obviously affects how we view natural-born citizens because for the first time there is a national rule of who may by birth be a citizen of the United States. Who may be born citizens of the States is conditional upon being born “subject to the jurisdiction” of the United States. The legislative definition of “subject to the jurisdiction thereof” was defined as “Not owing allegiance to anybody else.”

One universal point most all early publicists agreed on was natural-born citizen must mean one who is a citizen by no act of law. If a person owes their citizenship to some act of law (naturalization for example), they cannot be considered a natural-born citizen. This leads us to defining natural-born citizen under the laws of nature - laws the founders recognized and embraced.

Thus Obama may be disqualified and McCain may be disqualified. So might Jindal. Go through the 1001 Obama citizenship threads if you want more information.

I guess it up to the courts to interpret the Constitution, we'll see.

I wonder if they are bringing up Jindal, saying, if you want us to accept Jindal as natural born, you have to accept Obama as natural born. For the record, I think the issue of divided loyalties is a tricky one. Most legal immigrants are far more loyal to the United States than a lot of natural born citizens. I know that Jindal is a great loyal American. I do not know that of Obama.

41 posted on 12/02/2008 10:01:30 AM PST by christie
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To: Wonder Warthog
Anchor babies also do not qualify as natural born as their citizenship was created by an act of law and they have divided loyalties.

I'm not saying what the courts will decide. They decided that the unborn aren't protected by the Constitution, so who knows.

42 posted on 12/02/2008 10:04:51 AM PST by christie
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To: christie
Those are all nice theoretical points. From a practical standpoint, they mean zip. There have been too many hundreds of thousands of children born in the USA to non-native parents who have already been recognized as "natural-born citizens", to use your parlance by "no act of law".

"Anchor babies also do not qualify as natural born as their citizenship was created by an act of law and they have divided loyalties."

And what "act of law" was it that "created their citizenship". Sorry, but I don't buy your argument. And neither will the courts.

43 posted on 12/02/2008 12:23:32 PM PST by Wonder Warthog ( The Hog of Steel)
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To: Wonder Warthog
Well, Leo Donofrio's case if going to conference Friday at the Supreme Court, so we'll see what comes of it.

Few notes from Donofrio :

The "anchor babies" issue deals with whether those children are "citizens", not whether they are "natural born citizens" eligible to hold the office of President of the United States. They are not eligible since, at birth, they are also subject to the jurisdiction of the countries their parents were citizens of.

Appellant respectfully submits to this Honorable Court, once again, that had the legislature intended to grant "natural born citizen" status to all who were born on US soil, then the 14th Amendment would contain the words "natural born citizen", but it doesn't.

And so this proposition leads to the logical conclusion that a natural born citizen is a citizen born in the United States to parents, neither of which is an alien. Having an alien parent would tie such person at birth to the possibility of other loyalties and laws. And such a person, even if he be as loyal and devoted to this country as Senators Obama and McCain have proven to be, is not eligible to hold the office of President of the United States.

John McCain was neither born on United States soil, nor was he naturalized. He is a citizen at birth by statute. ... McCain is in the class of citizens who obtain their citizenship at birth, but not from the Constitution, but rather federal statute. ... So, not being born on US soil, McCain cannot be a "natural born citizen".

A lot more arguments there if you care to read them.

44 posted on 12/02/2008 1:40:36 PM PST by christie
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To: Wonder Warthog

If Jindal gains traction as a Presidential candidate expect posters here to question whether if Jindal is a Muslim or if any of his family members are illegals.


45 posted on 12/02/2008 6:35:41 PM PST by yongin (Converting people to Mormonism makes the world more conservative)
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To: christie
"A lot more arguments there if you care to read them. "

I've seen them. For the most part, they are bullshit. A "natural born citizen" is one born on US territory (and in the case of John McCain in particular, the article is TOTAL bullshit, because he WAS born on US territory, as, at the time of his birth, the Panama Canal WAS "US territory"). The courts have accepted that definition for many decades---it's settled law.

The problem with Obama is that he was likely NOT born on US territory.

46 posted on 12/03/2008 6:17:14 AM PST by Wonder Warthog ( The Hog of Steel)
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To: yongin
"If Jindal gains traction as a Presidential candidate expect posters here to question whether if Jindal is a Muslim or if any of his family members are illegals."

And they will prove themselves to be idiots. Jindal's background, unlike Obama's, is an "open book". All the relevant facts are matters of public record. He was certainly born in the USA, in Louisiana, in Baton Rouge. His parents were (and are) Hindu, and were here legally, and the facts of his converstion to Catholicism are well known. At precisely what point his parents got green cards and became citizens, I haven't seen---but there is no question of their "visa status".

47 posted on 12/03/2008 6:21:24 AM PST by Wonder Warthog ( The Hog of Steel)
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To: Wonder Warthog
I respectfully disagree. Sarah has accomplished as much, if not more, in her time in office than Jindal. Her level of accomplishment is much higher in the area of routing scum bag republicans and democrats, in other words "the good old boy network", and exposing them and in doing more for Alaska in two years than any other Governor of Alaska in the last 50 years, not to mention her effort to bring energy independence to the states.

As far as I am concerned, Sarah/Jindal 2012. When Jindal starts brining in the crowds the way Sarah does then I might think about him at the top, until then, which is to say never, I want Sarah as POTUS candidate for 2012 and I am not alone in that thinking.

48 posted on 12/03/2008 6:59:40 AM PST by calex59
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To: ScottinVA
They’ll probably attack his faith; I understand he’s a fundamental Catholic.

He's Catholic. I'm not sure what "fundamental" means, in reference to Catholics.

The media will savage him.

The real question is: will the Romophobic idiots on FR savage him?

49 posted on 12/03/2008 7:02:59 AM PST by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: calex59
"I respectfully disagree. Sarah has accomplished as much, if not more, in her time in office than Jindal."

Sorry, but I'm not willing to limit it to "her (his) time in office". That is far too limited a snapshot of overall ability. Jindal simply demolishes Palins overall track record.

"When Jindal starts brining in the crowds the way Sarah does then I might think about him at the top, until then, which is to say never, I want Sarah as POTUS candidate for 2012 and I am not alone in that thinking."

In other words, just like a Democrat, the only thing that matters is "charisma". Yup, Palin has more charisma than Jindal, but Jindal has more of everything else than Palin--which is why a Jindal/Palin ticket is the overall best. Palin needs seasoning. Jindal does not.

50 posted on 12/03/2008 8:55:02 AM PST by Wonder Warthog ( The Hog of Steel)
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