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Flint mother Latrica Ryan of 10 looks to community for help - (29 year old has 10 kids)
Flint Journal ^ | Nov 29, 2008 | RoNeisha Mullen

Posted on 12/03/2008 6:37:05 AM PST by GeorgiaDawg32

FLINT, Michigan -- With 10 kids and no vehicle, Latrica Ryan is used to juggling.

Going to a movie or out for dinner is a like plotting a major tactical undertaking. Not that such outings happen that much.

"It would really be nice if I could take my kids where they needed to go, instead of having to find them a ride," Ryan said. "And when we do go somewhere, I have to pay four or five people (for gas) to get us all there.

"I have booster seats and car seats. It's a lot."

Ryan, is a 29-year-old single stay-at-home mother of five sons and five daughters, who range in age from 2 months to 13 years.

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To: MrB

Look at how the Duggars (18 kids, i think) are vilified by many. As I understand it, they pay all their own bills.


51 posted on 12/03/2008 6:56:48 AM PST by Travis T. OJustice (Change is not a destination, just as hope is not a strategy.)
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To: denydenydeny

Yep. Looks like a one household crime wave on the way.


52 posted on 12/03/2008 6:57:03 AM PST by Skooz (Gabba Gabba we accept you we accept you one of us Gabba Gabba we accept you we accept you one of us)
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To: Teacher317

You really think what she did was divinely inspired?


53 posted on 12/03/2008 6:57:24 AM PST by thecabal (We care a lot)
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To: Teacher317

“Well, she obeyed the command to Be Fruitful and Multiply.
Interesting that no conservatives of faith seem to mention this and come to her defense.”
____________________________________________________

So true. If she was ‘white’ and/or , gawd forgive, Christian, the libs would have an absolute field day....calling her ‘selfish’ and ‘ruining planet earth’. They would demand her to pay carbon credits, too.


54 posted on 12/03/2008 6:57:46 AM PST by RushIsMyTeddyBear
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To: Teacher317

I have news on the command to be fruitful and multiply. It goes on to say “and replenish the Earth.” News flash: the Earth is replenished. Having more kids in order to gain more forced charity is not covered by this. Rather, it is a sin akin to stealing.


55 posted on 12/03/2008 6:58:07 AM PST by Ingtar (For the first time in my adult life, I am NOT proud of America.)
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To: GeorgiaDawg32
I would have loved to have had ten children, but we stopped after two because of money. My husband, yes, I had one, had four children from his first marriage. There were times when we had no vehicle and six children to shop for. Movies and eating out were out of the question. As I look back now, all I can remember is being so poor. BTW, my husband was career military and we were only saved by army housing.

I would have loved to have stayed home and had a baby each year, but we don't all get what we want.

56 posted on 12/03/2008 6:58:10 AM PST by eccentric (a.k.a. baldwidow)
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To: Travis T. OJustice

The Duggars pay their own bills and are, as far as I know, self sufficient.

At least all 18 kids know who their daddy is.


57 posted on 12/03/2008 6:58:11 AM PST by Skooz (Gabba Gabba we accept you we accept you one of us Gabba Gabba we accept you we accept you one of us)
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To: Republic of Texas
The left never can call things what they are because it would destroy them.

They are just taking after their "father".


John 8:44
"You belong to your father, the devil. You want to obey your father's wishes. "

"From the beginning, the devil was a murderer. He has never obeyed the truth. There is no truth in him. When he lies, he speaks his natural language. He does this because he is a liar. He is the father of lies. "

58 posted on 12/03/2008 6:58:22 AM PST by MrB (The 0bamanation: Marxism, Infanticide, Appeasement, Depression, Thuggery, and Censorship)
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To: GeorgiaDawg32

Welfare mammies is so ‘70s.


59 posted on 12/03/2008 6:58:48 AM PST by ScottinVA (Gloucester County, VA -- Standing for America! 63% for McCain-Palin on 4 Nov)
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To: ScottinVA

She needs to call ‘Maury’ and get those DNA tests. /s


60 posted on 12/03/2008 6:58:55 AM PST by RushIsMyTeddyBear
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To: RushIsMyTeddyBear

BeBe’s Kids!!!


61 posted on 12/03/2008 6:59:42 AM PST by ScottinVA (Gloucester County, VA -- Standing for America! 63% for McCain-Palin on 4 Nov)
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To: Skooz

That’s my understanding, as well. Mom home-schools. It’s clear they love each and every one of their own kids. They know how to do things right, IMHO.


62 posted on 12/03/2008 6:59:59 AM PST by Travis T. OJustice (Change is not a destination, just as hope is not a strategy.)
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To: Teacher317

Wow, a liberal couldn’t have written a better post - taking one concept out of the Bible, out of context, and then deriding Christians for not supporting it.

Here’s some context to “be fruitful and multiply”:


1 Timothy 5:8
But if anyone does not provide for his own, and especially for those of his household, he has denied the faith and is worse than an unbeliever.

Cross references:


63 posted on 12/03/2008 7:01:15 AM PST by MrB (The 0bamanation: Marxism, Infanticide, Appeasement, Depression, Thuggery, and Censorship)
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To: GeorgiaDawg32

She may not be able to find rides for her kids, but she has certainly been having no problem finding ride after ride for herself.

I’m more interested to know how she arranges liaisons with her future babies’ daddies.


64 posted on 12/03/2008 7:01:41 AM PST by Burkean
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To: GeorgiaDawg32

She may not be able to find rides for her kids, but she has certainly been having no problem finding ride after ride for herself.

I’m more interested to know how she arranges liaisons with her future babies’ daddies.


65 posted on 12/03/2008 7:01:41 AM PST by Burkean
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To: Teacher317

um, Being fruitful and multiplying was in the context of a family - father and mother..... husband and wife..... that whole leave and cleave concept. The uncontrolled breeding in total disregard for the future basic welfare of the family is hardly a responsible way to live one’s life. Humans are made in the image of God and are not animals; therefore, they shouldn’t behave like animals when it comes to reproduction.


66 posted on 12/03/2008 7:02:54 AM PST by hobie-one
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To: Teacher317

last time I checked be fruitful and multiply applied if you could support the children and had a husband who could help provide for them. This thing isn’t even human it just leeches off tax dollars while it shoves more degenerates into the school system.


67 posted on 12/03/2008 7:03:47 AM PST by utherdoul
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To: YOUGOTIT
Why are the oat givers not paying maximum?
Because you are.

Who are the oat givers? And why all the children when there is NO money to raise them?
Why not? There really isn't any negative consequence to having kids out of wedlock - you're paying for them, not her, nor the "daddies".

Most libs would say that an occurrence like this was unfortunate, but their intent was to help those who don't abuse the system. I say that their intent was EXACTLY this - to make more people dependent on the system.

68 posted on 12/03/2008 7:04:18 AM PST by MrB (The 0bamanation: Marxism, Infanticide, Appeasement, Depression, Thuggery, and Censorship)
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To: Teacher317
“Be Fruitful and Multiply” applies to the family, the two parts of which are a husband and wife. Illegitimacy is child abuse which is something no conservative of faith advocates.
69 posted on 12/03/2008 7:04:42 AM PST by Varda
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To: autumnraine

Liberal policy has made that passenger van unaffordable.

The only people liberals want having large families are people like this - people who will be dependent on them.


70 posted on 12/03/2008 7:05:18 AM PST by MrB (The 0bamanation: Marxism, Infanticide, Appeasement, Depression, Thuggery, and Censorship)
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To: GeorgiaDawg32

Just a minute here. This woman’s problems seem to be twofold. First is that she is black, and second, that she lives in Flint.

If she was white and Mormon, and lived in Utah, would any of this be an issue? (Omit the detail about multiple biological fathers). Women can be single parents because their husbands die, as well.

I’m not really saying that she should be excused for her lack of morality, but that we should be clear about what, exactly, is the problem here.

Liberals are in the rather loathsome habit of using stories like this to justify abortion, with barely concealed racism and disdain for parenthood as well as despising other people as a whole. Let’s not just accept their axioms without really examining the situation. That happens far too much and often ends up with liberals getting their way in changes to public policy.

While we object to her behavior, remember that she is personally to blame, not her children, who didn’t have any say in their creation. So while we might like to see her, personally, punished or restricted in some way, it is more important that her children be provided at least the opportunity to not make the same mistakes.

This brings us to the subject of Flint, Michigan. This place actually contributes to her problems by supporting her lifestyle and bad habits. It is an impoverished place, and will likely inflict the same environment on her children that led to her proclivity in the first place.

So perhaps the best “welfare reform” that could be given for her and her family, would be to move them from Flint to a more supportive and wholesome area. There are vast areas of the US that do not have Flint’s problems and decay, and the vast majority would do much to redirect her children to a better way of life.

A life that doesn’t involve abortion, because it doesn’t have to.


71 posted on 12/03/2008 7:06:22 AM PST by yefragetuwrabrumuy
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To: GeorgiaDawg32

I’ll donate a quarter to the cause. But only if she promises to hold it between her knees until her ovaries dry up.


72 posted on 12/03/2008 7:07:55 AM PST by fungoking
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To: G.Mason

Aunt Bunny!


73 posted on 12/03/2008 7:08:31 AM PST by Anti-Bubba182
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To: Anti-Bubba182

I met her cousin - the cousin said that each child is by a different father....


74 posted on 12/03/2008 7:08:56 AM PST by x_plus_one (Muhammed and Allah = 2 memes destined for the ashheap of history.....)
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To: Republic of Texas
There are some freepers who would place stay-at-home moms in the same category as welfare leeches. For some unless you're bringing money into the home you're not a “partner”.
75 posted on 12/03/2008 7:09:26 AM PST by Varda
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To: GeorgiaDawg32

Wow.

Incredible.

Wonder how many of them voted in the last election.


76 posted on 12/03/2008 7:09:36 AM PST by CriticalJ
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To: GeorgiaDawg32
I'm willing to bet the tax payers paid for her hospital stay as well as pediatricians 10 times. Taxpayer should help get her tubes tied, it would have been cost effective...oh wait that would not be the politically correct thing to do.

Buy her a darn bus then.

77 posted on 12/03/2008 7:09:52 AM PST by lula ( Islam IS the Anti-Christ)
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To: GeorgiaDawg32

about 20 years ago, I worked in a factory in Chicago which employed a lot of blacks.

one day at break, a bunch of girls were excitedly congratulating one of the girls for getting pregnant.

knowing that she was single and living with her mother, I wondered aloud how she could be so happy about it ( I am MEAN)

the mom to be said :” 500 bucks a month” as she high fived
her friend


78 posted on 12/03/2008 7:10:56 AM PST by daku (Obama has experience pouring out of those big ears of his.)
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To: fortunate sun

I always thought he was hilarious.


79 posted on 12/03/2008 7:11:23 AM PST by visualops (portraits.artlife.us or visit my freeper page)
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To: GeorgiaDawg32

I just went to the website. The comments are hysterical. My two favorites: she needs encouragement to go to college and
“Maybe now that Obama will be our president, it might be what will help this woman and her children!!”

Obama can’t even help is homeless step-brother and he’s going to help this woman!


80 posted on 12/03/2008 7:11:35 AM PST by ladyjane
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To: Skooz
Where’s daddy?

It's hard to keep track of ten guys...............

81 posted on 12/03/2008 7:11:35 AM PST by Red Badger (Never has a man risen so far, so fast and is expected to do so much, for so many, with so little...)
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To: Boiling Pots
Going to a movie or out for dinner is a like plotting a major tactical undertaking. Not that such outings happen that much.

Sorry, but until you get a job, they shouldn't happen at all.

82 posted on 12/03/2008 7:11:58 AM PST by econjack (Some people are as dumb as soup.)
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To: Teacher317
Interesting that no conservatives of faith seem to mention this and come to her defense.

That's because we're also responsible adults who expect every household to support themselves and their families, just as we do.

Interesting you ignored the obvious.

83 posted on 12/03/2008 7:12:00 AM PST by bcsco (Liberals don't understand, it's impossible to pick up a turd-like Obama-by the clean end...)
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To: denydenydeny

“that’s racist”


84 posted on 12/03/2008 7:14:02 AM PST by visualops (portraits.artlife.us or visit my freeper page)
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To: Sybeck1
Was I mistaken, or did I hear the word “orphanage” mentioned by some GOP stalwarts in the early 90’s?

Newt Gingrich, and he was pilloried by the media. Thing is - my wife used to teach at a school that had parents like that mother. Even worse. There was one mother with 12 kids and every single one of them was special needs because she drank and did drugs during pregnancy. In suburban schools kids are rowdy on friday because they want to go home. In inner-city schools kids are rowdy on friday because they don't want to leave. Their home lives are horrible. The older kids in these families are often abusive towards their younger half-siblings.

85 posted on 12/03/2008 7:14:09 AM PST by Jibaholic ("Those people who are not ruled by God will be ruled by tyrants." --William Penn)
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To: alexander_busek

Well, look at the name of the reporter. RoyNeisha.


86 posted on 12/03/2008 7:14:14 AM PST by squarebarb
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To: GeorgiaDawg32
What's the difference between those kids and Obama? They probably have to show birth certificates to get their government checks.
87 posted on 12/03/2008 7:14:33 AM PST by KarlInOhio (11/4: The revolutionary socialists beat the Fabian ones. Where can we find a capitalist party?)
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To: GeorgiaDawg32

She should have been sterilized after the birth of her first illigeimate child. The father should be castrated. That’s the only way we’re ever going to control this irresponsible and reckless behavior. Welfare babies having welfare babies and destroying our cities has to stop.


88 posted on 12/03/2008 7:15:20 AM PST by pgkdan
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To: duckman

Make the father’s pay.


89 posted on 12/03/2008 7:15:31 AM PST by Carley (Prayers for Sgt. Eddie Ryan)
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To: MrB
The sad part is, I know libs that would call a large conservative family "irresponsible" (when they are self supporting), and then turn around and claim that a woman like this should have the "choice" to make as many kids as she wants to.

You're exactly right. It's amazing, isn't it?

I do hope there are letters to the editor about this...perhaps the idea of responsibility can sink in again, if not to people like Ms. Ryan, then perhaps to those who are unthinkingly paying her bills.

90 posted on 12/03/2008 7:16:59 AM PST by Gondring (Paul Revere would have been flamed as a naysayer troll and told to go back to Boston.)
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To: GeorgiaDawg32
....stay-at-home mother...

So that's what it's called now.

91 posted on 12/03/2008 7:17:15 AM PST by Proud2BeRight
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To: Gondring
I wonder what the father does in this case, to avoid putting unfair burden on others.

Father? There's probably 10 fathers.

92 posted on 12/03/2008 7:17:36 AM PST by pgkdan
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To: pgkdan
That’s the only way we’re ever going to control this irresponsible and reckless behavior.

Disagree.

This wasn't a problem when the family of the woman/girl had to shoulder the burden and shame of the illegitimate baby. They kept better watch over their female offspring.

Also, fathers of boys made sure that they were better behaved and restrained, to avoid ending up on the business end of a shotgun in front of a minister.

93 posted on 12/03/2008 7:17:56 AM PST by MrB (The 0bamanation: Marxism, Infanticide, Appeasement, Depression, Thuggery, and Censorship)
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To: Skooz

Speaking of NINJA...she would be the perfect candidate for a sub prime mortgage.

No Income
No Job
No Assets


94 posted on 12/03/2008 7:18:12 AM PST by Carley (Prayers for Sgt. Eddie Ryan)
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy
If she was white and Mormon, and lived in Utah, would any of this be an issue? (Omit the detail about multiple biological fathers).

What you're saying is that if every single fact in this case were different, then we would probably feel differently about it?

You're probably right. But what's the point?

95 posted on 12/03/2008 7:20:14 AM PST by ClearCase_guy
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To: econjack

The person you were replying to, as far as I could tell, was supporting her children and not on welfare. No need to be harsh. I commend all stay at home moms (whose HUSBAND works to support the family).


96 posted on 12/03/2008 7:20:17 AM PST by MrB (The 0bamanation: Marxism, Infanticide, Appeasement, Depression, Thuggery, and Censorship)
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To: GeorgiaDawg32

There should be an industry category for Democrat vote manufacturer.


97 posted on 12/03/2008 7:20:21 AM PST by Proud2BeRight
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To: GeorgiaDawg32

This isn’t a “stay-at-home mom.” This is a slut.

This woman would be a whore, but frankly, whores have more dignity and class than this woman, as whores are at least vaguely aware of the idea that their sexuality has some value, even if they misperceive the currency by which it should be valued.


98 posted on 12/03/2008 7:21:29 AM PST by sitetest (If Roe is not overturned, no unborn child will ever be protected in law.)
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To: GeorgiaDawg32

BTTT


99 posted on 12/03/2008 7:21:49 AM PST by mtbrandon49
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To: ClearCase_guy

Yeah, if she was in a stable family and not on public assistance and the ONE father of all the kids was working to support them,

we, indeed, would “probably feel differently about it” - regardless of skin color or religion.


100 posted on 12/03/2008 7:22:30 AM PST by MrB (The 0bamanation: Marxism, Infanticide, Appeasement, Depression, Thuggery, and Censorship)
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