Posted on 12/03/2008 8:14:35 AM PST by Scythian
This birth certificate issue has been going on for some time now and for those hoping for some kind of dramatic outcome you are in for another big disappointment.
First, there is always the chance that there is a valid birth certificate proving Obama to be a US citizen.
Second, enough time has passed such that the Obama cult has manufactured and installed a phony certificate that will re-route us back up to option 1 above, he will have a valid certificate. Who do you think works in these kinds of government offices? They're all democrats.
Third, no court is going to force Obama to prove himself to be a citizen, the burden is on those making the accusation that he is not a citizen. A criminal doesn't have to prove he didn't commit a crime, the state has to prove that he did.
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Flame on, and sorry for the Vanity, but this is driving me nutz, this issue gets my hopes up but then common sense dashes my hope on the rocks, and this now is a daily occurrence. You are going to find a valid certificate at the end of this road if you are lucky enough to get a judge to demand it, and that is very unlikely, whether the certificate be real or phony it won't matter, and will never be able to proven either way.
The problem of standing is really what stands in the way of seeing Obambam’s birth certifigate. Dean Eastman of Chapman law school says that this is unfortunately the problem with all these lawsuits and he’s a Constitutional lawyer that would most likely be sympathetic to protecting the Constitution above all other considerations. The ironic thing is that these are the judiciary’s own rules of standing and I bet the process to change them would be quite difficult. If it weren’t, Eastman would give these lawsuits a chance.
Standing; MY FOOT! It’s the Constitution and the country we’re talking about.
Can’t they think that if they don’t do the right thing, they may hav a disaster on their hands? Aren’t they American?
Ginsburg may be born in five places and got put together as a liberal robot in the SC.
Post # 174 covers who can be a US citizen. It does not cover NATRAL BORN CITIZEN.
Post # 174 covers who can be a US citizen. It does not cover NATRAL BORN CITIZEN.
I feel the same way.
I just get the sinking feeling that the very rules that protect our politicians from challenges from the common folk are the same ones that Barack is hiding behind to attain the Presidency.
Whoever is behind Obama has very deep pockets and legal resources galore to exploit this loophole.
That is really scary and it could be exactly what is going on. Thank you LucyT.
We know that Obama has a US Passport, courtesy of a little scandal a few months where a contractor poked into the passport files of Obama, Clinton and McCain. If Obama had presented fraudulent document to get a passport, there’s got to be a federal crime in there. That would be serious enough for impeachment, I think. But before ANY of that could happen, there would have to be some evidence of the crime. And there isn’t any, zip, zero, zilch. (Granny Sarah did not say the president elect was born in Kenya, she said “my son...Obama” was. Go read Berg’s transcript.)
So if there is no evidence, why are we having this conversation in the first place? Answer: Hawaii is not really a state.
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