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New lawsuit challenges Obama’s citizenship, win in (Washington) state
Tri-City Herald ^ | Dec. 4, 2008 | Herald staff

Posted on 12/05/2008 4:15:08 AM PST by FocusNexus

A group of Washington residents have filed a lawsuit with the state Supreme Court asking the state's votes for President-Elect Barack Obama be set aside.

James E. Broe, of King County, and 12 others claim Obama never established that he is a natural-born American citizen as required by the Constitution, and that Obama ran under a false name.

A similar suit before the election was dismissed in King County.

Obama is set to receive the state's 11 electoral votes when the Electoral College delegates meet in Olympia on Dec. 15.

Similar lawsuits have been filed in other states.

Dave Ammons, spokesman for Secretary of State Sam Reed's office, said in an e-mail to the Herald that the state's position is that Reed is not required and does not have the authority to investigate the qualifications of candidates for president and vice president.

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TOPICS: Extended News; Politics/Elections; US: Washington
KEYWORDS: birthcertificate; broe; broevreed; certifigate; jamesbroe; obama; obamatransitionfile; obamatruthfile; wa2008; washington
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1 posted on 12/05/2008 4:15:08 AM PST by FocusNexus
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To: FocusNexus
Reed is not required and does not have the authority to investigate the qualifications of candidates for president and vice president.

This may or may not be true. I can't address the law. If it is true, then it begs the question - who IS charged with verifying this? It's quickly becoming clear that even if Barry Soetoro is an American citizen by birth, this issue needs to be cleared up in case it ever is a real issue down the road.

One would think a Constitutional scholar would have every interest in being the pivotal player in resolving such an important issue. We're waiting, Mr. President Elect.

2 posted on 12/05/2008 4:20:51 AM PST by Hardastarboard (Why do I find the Toyota "Saved by Zero" ads so ironic?)
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To: FocusNexus
Dave Ammons, spokesman for Secretary of State Sam Reed's office, said in an e-mail to the Herald that the state's position is that Reed is not required and does not have the authority to investigate the qualifications of candidates for president and vice president.

That seems to be the standard. It's not my job and you don't have standing. The vetting of candidates is apparently conducted by magical elves.
3 posted on 12/05/2008 4:21:08 AM PST by cripplecreek (The poor bastards have us surrounded.)
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To: FocusNexus

The patriotism of these people is deserving of a BIG time pat on the back! Bummer how there are so few. “12 others”? This makes it look like a few “nut case/anti-BO” folks that shouldn’t be paid attention to. In actuality, it seems that 99% of the “sheeple” in this country don’t know about the Constitutional requirements to be POTUS and/or don’t care.


4 posted on 12/05/2008 4:22:10 AM PST by albie
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To: FocusNexus
Interestingly, the National Committees of each party AND the Council for Presidential Debates both claim to confirm the candidates for eligibility. It would be interesting to see how they reached their conclusions.
5 posted on 12/05/2008 4:23:13 AM PST by doodad
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To: cripplecreek
That seems to be the standard. It's not my job and you don't have standing. The vetting of candidates is apparently conducted by magical elves.

I always thought Oprah looked more like an Afrian Porky Pig.

6 posted on 12/05/2008 4:25:37 AM PST by aj7360
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To: aj7360

that’s “African”...


7 posted on 12/05/2008 4:26:49 AM PST by aj7360
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To: doodad
Interestingly, the National Committees of each party AND the Council for Presidential Debates both claim to confirm the candidates for eligibility.

I hope my fellow FReepers, Conservatives and anyone with an interest in preserving the Constitution of the United States will take note of the deafening silence coming from the GOP.

8 posted on 12/05/2008 4:29:23 AM PST by Roccus (Someday it'll all make sense.............maybe.)
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To: doodad

Most amazing to me is the numbers of people who are fine just taking the democrat’s word for it.


9 posted on 12/05/2008 4:30:18 AM PST by cripplecreek (The poor bastards have us surrounded.)
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To: Roccus

Globalists.


10 posted on 12/05/2008 4:33:44 AM PST by cripplecreek (The poor bastards have us surrounded.)
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To: FocusNexus

This is has become definite tinfoil hat territory.


11 posted on 12/05/2008 4:37:47 AM PST by King of Florida (A little government and a little luck are necessary in life, but only a fool trusts either of them.)
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To: Hardastarboard
This may or may not be true. I can't address the law. If it is true, then it begs the question - who IS charged with verifying this? It's quickly becoming clear that even if Barry Soetoro is an American citizen by birth, this issue needs to be cleared up in case it ever is a real issue down the road.

LOL No one is charged with verifying
When the Constitution was written we didn't have sneaky people who could cover up their past running for President
They never got that far

In other words up till now anyone elected president had an easily verifiable life. A public life

12 posted on 12/05/2008 4:38:02 AM PST by dennisw (Never bet on Islam! ::::: Never bet on a false prophet!)
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To: cripplecreek

I was listening to Hannity discuss this yesterday. He did not even want to touch it. He danced around and talked about how he had been watching the issue, but had not mentioned it on air. Then he say’s that he will take Obama and his families word on where he was born!!!!!!!
What an idiot! Was he here during the election?
DemocRATs lie, that is their standard mode of operation. Say anything to get elected.
I’ve never listened much to Hannity, and after that idiotic statement I will not be in the future either.


13 posted on 12/05/2008 4:38:58 AM PST by 9422WMR (When seconds count, the cops are only minutes away.)
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To: Hardastarboard
One would think a Constitutional scholar would have every interest in being the pivotal player in resolving such an important issue.

Obama said he was a constitutional law professor (a lie), but he has been quiet about this.

Chuckle!
14 posted on 12/05/2008 4:39:17 AM PST by Beckwith (Typical white person)
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To: Hardastarboard
If it is true, then it begs the question - who IS charged with verifying this?

Short answer? Nobody. And I'd agree that it'd be nice if there was. But I don't see the Democratic Congress doing anything about it soon.

15 posted on 12/05/2008 4:39:49 AM PST by Non-Sequitur
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To: King of Florida

Read your threads - - you’re very invested in knocking this story down - - why?


16 posted on 12/05/2008 4:41:59 AM PST by Beckwith (Typical white person)
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To: Roccus

All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for people of good conscience to remain silent.~Thomas Jefferson.


17 posted on 12/05/2008 4:43:52 AM PST by MashieNiblick16
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To: Roccus

“I hope my fellow FReepers, Conservatives and anyone with an interest in preserving the Constitution of the United States will take note of the deafening silence coming from the GOP.”

I have noticed the silence from the GOP for some time! It stands to reason when Senator McCain also does not meet the Constitutional requirements to hold the Office of President!


18 posted on 12/05/2008 4:44:40 AM PST by seekthetruth
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To: cripplecreek

Sooner or later Conservatives have to realize that the national GOP only tolerates them when it is convenient for them to do so.


19 posted on 12/05/2008 4:45:43 AM PST by Roccus (Someday it'll all make sense.............maybe.)
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To: dennisw
...up till now anyone elected president had an easily verifiable life. A public life.

Obama's Public Life

Obama has lived for 48 years without leaving any footprints -- none! There is no Obama documentation -- no records -- no paper trail -- none -- this can't be an accident.

Original, vault copy birth certificate -- Not released
Certificate of Live Birth -- Released -- Counterfeit
Obama/Dunham marriage license -- Not released
Soetoro/Dunham marriage license -- Not released
Soetoro adoption records -- Not released
Fransiskus Assisi School School application -- Released
Punahou School records -- Not released
Selective Service Registration -- Released -- Counterfeit
Occidental College records -- Not released
Passport (Pakistan) -- Not released
Columbia College records -- Not released
Columbia thesis -- Not released
Harvard College records -- Not released
Harvard Law Review articles -- None (maybe 1, unsigned?)
Baptism certificate -- None
Medical records -- Not released
Illinois State Senate records -- None
Illinois State Senate schedule -- Lost
Law practice client list -- Not released
University of Chicago scholarly articles -- None


20 posted on 12/05/2008 4:47:23 AM PST by Beckwith (Typical white person)
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To: seekthetruth
It stands to reason when Senator McCain also does not meet the Constitutional requirements to hold the Office of President!

I thought this was cleared up back in 2000. Of course, I have no idea if this issue can withstand deeper scrutiny.

21 posted on 12/05/2008 4:48:54 AM PST by Roccus (Someday it'll all make sense.............maybe.)
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To: cripplecreek

One thing during all of this has become clear to me. There is nobody who vets these candidates!

This alone is outragous.


22 posted on 12/05/2008 4:55:13 AM PST by waxer1 ( Live Free or Die; Give Me Liberty or Give Me Death)
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To: FocusNexus

Obama needs to deal with the issue. Who IS Barry Soetero?

He needs to pony up all the info from the schools he attended and provide his birth records.

He is hiding something. It won’t stay hidden forever, once the bloom is off the rose, the hidden information will emerge.


23 posted on 12/05/2008 4:55:31 AM PST by dforest (Is there any good idea out there that Obama doesn't lay claim to anymore?)
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To: Hardastarboard

That is the question of the year... Who has the authority to question 0’s citizenship and request proof? Before the election, I called my State BOE, and they didn’t know either, so they put me on hold to check, then they transferred me somewhere without telling me where. They sent me to the DNC. The DNC wasn’t very helpful, as you could imagine.

It just seems like everyone is hitting a dead end, and it is a very simple request.


24 posted on 12/05/2008 4:56:46 AM PST by HollyB
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To: King of Florida
Why? I don't think it's going to go anywhere in terms of blocking a Zero presidency.

But why is it tinfoil hat territory? A very basic Constitutional requirement needs to be verified. If the suspicion were that he was only 34 years old, would that also not be an issue if he hadn't adequately proved that he was of the constitutionally mandated age?

People are starting early in making sure that these uber leftists abide by the constitution. It's a pretty frightening sign that even ‘conservatives’ on FR are calling them crazy and derailing the effort.

25 posted on 12/05/2008 4:58:54 AM PST by Ghost of Philip Marlowe (Speak up, fight back, even if your voice trembles and your knees shake.)
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To: indylindy

Another problem with a person with power holding secrets is blackmail. 0’s secrecy is putting our nation’s security at risk due to the potential of blackmail.


26 posted on 12/05/2008 5:01:01 AM PST by HollyB
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To: Roccus
McCain was born on an American Territory,the Panama Canal Zone, by two USA citizens.

To be a Natural Citizen, one does not have to be born in Kansas.

27 posted on 12/05/2008 5:03:22 AM PST by jws3sticks (Hillary can take a very long walk on a very short pier, anytime time, and the sooner the better!)
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To: HollyB

Yep, supposedly, the chinese knew all about Monica Lewinsky before we did.

Wonder what they know about Soetero?


28 posted on 12/05/2008 5:03:36 AM PST by dforest (Is there any good idea out there that Obama doesn't lay claim to anymore?)
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To: seekthetruth
It stands to reason when Senator McCain also does not meet the Constitutional requirements to hold the Office of President!

Wrong. Since both of Senator McCain's parents were US citizens he is a natural born citizen. This was cleared up well over a year ago when the lefties brought it up.

29 posted on 12/05/2008 5:04:43 AM PST by SC Swamp Fox (Join our Folding@Home team (Team# 36120) keyword: folding)
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To: SC Swamp Fox

The lefties brought it up in S.Res. 511, and declared him to be a natural born citizen. Problem is, Senate resolutions carry no weight of law.

This is precisely the question the Supreme Court will visit in Conference today.


30 posted on 12/05/2008 5:09:15 AM PST by Helen
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To: King of Florida

King of Florida wrote: This is has become definite tinfoil hat territory.

Is this because you have proof that Obama was a Natural Born Citizen. If so, cough it up.


31 posted on 12/05/2008 5:10:06 AM PST by UglyinLA
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To: 9422WMR
I happened to hear Blabbity's lame BS about the inconvenient little issue of whether OBamBam is legally qualified to be POTUS ... This issue has bubbled up in so many courts, including the Supreme Court, that Drudge covered it yesterday, so I guess Blabbity figured he had to mention it in passing yesterday.

I seldom turn Blabbity on anymore since right after the election, he kept "wishing Obama success" as president. WTF?? Did George Patton wish the German generals success? What a retard excuse for a conservative talk show host this guy is. How the hell did he ever get syndicated?

32 posted on 12/05/2008 5:13:05 AM PST by webschooner
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To: 9422WMR
I was listening to Hannity discuss this yesterday. He did not even want to touch it. He danced around and talked about how he had been watching the issue, but had not mentioned it on air. Then he say’s that he will take Obama and his families word on where he was born!!!!!!!

Is that for real? Even if Obama and his grandmother supposedly disagree on where he was born? Is this the same Hannity that constantly says Obama is a liar on so many issues involving his past, his relationships, etc? The same Hannity who always says he just wants the truth? Now he just wants to take Obama at his word on this?

They can harp all they want about how the MSM failed to dig into Obama's past or question him at all. But now I'm truly disappointed with the GOP and right wing talkers who are scared to death of looking into this and simply wanting to make certain that the man who leads us the next four years actually meets constitutional requirements to hold that office.

One of my friends who I have always put into the "looney, fringe" category, insisted to me years ago that the constitution was already done away with and we were currently living under a shadow government. Hmm. Maybe he was onto something judging by the way so many are acting in regards to this constitutional issue.

33 posted on 12/05/2008 5:18:36 AM PST by Zack Attack
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To: FocusNexus
Actually the House of Representatives is tasked with the responsibility of insuring the person who receives the most Electoral College votes is eligible to be President of the United States. Of course, at the time there was no huge national election only a meeting of the electors who were chosen by the individual States.

After the Electoral College, when the House then counts their votes, it will be the right time for a Congress person to challenge the eligibility of Ossama Hussien to be President. If Congress refuses to act one or more Congress persons will definitely have standing to petition the Supreme Court to enforce the Constitution.

Patience!

34 posted on 12/05/2008 5:20:06 AM PST by politicalmerc (NObama: more arrogant than Bill Clinton, more naive than Jimmy Carter, and more liberal than LBJ.)
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To: King of Florida
I cannot believe that you and so many others fail to realize that since Barry hasn't released pertinent info regarding proof of his natural born status, the nation and the Constitution are in jeopardy.

If 0 is sworn into office and signs into law legislation, trade treaties, executive orders, appoints judges, etc., etc., and is later fond out and proved to be completely ineligible with respect to natural born status and/or legitimate US citizenship, that all his and Congress's and the rest of the government's 'work', appropriations, etc., becomes null and void.

Because of 0's background and associated questions, these questions have to be answered in court in front of witnesses and forensic experts, NOW!! Some Lefties',NWO, the MSM's, FactSlime,orgy, CFR's cronies', Dem's, etc., words will not suffice.

Hopefully The Supremes are smart enough to understand this and will act accordingly.

35 posted on 12/05/2008 5:20:45 AM PST by RSmithOpt (Liberalism: Highway to Hell)
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To: jws3sticks
To be a Natural Citizen, one does not have to be born in Kansas.

At no point in my post did I say or intimate that, but thanks for the snark anyway.

What I was saying is that as I grow older and learn more, I no longer trust my government or the political parties that run it to be truthful about anything.

36 posted on 12/05/2008 5:21:54 AM PST by Roccus (Someday it'll all make sense.............maybe.)
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To: King of Florida

In your website you claim to be a very good lawyer so I assume you have evidence for your position.


37 posted on 12/05/2008 5:24:18 AM PST by ladyjane
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To: FocusNexus

I have just sent this email to a personal friend who is a state representative here:

Dear *****,
This whole Obama VALID birth certificate flap has many folks here worried that the vetting of NATIONAL CANDIDATES by the political parties is NOT sufficiently rigid — or even exists at all.

Since Obama has REFUSED to present a valid, vault copy of said document, can you tell me if Georgia has a statutory requirement for such vetting by the state? Prohibiting Georgia’s electors from voting for a candidate failing to provide all necessary certified/legal documentation/information would be the goal. If enough states did so, it would keep future unqualified candidates from taking office and creating a dangerous Constitutional crisis.

If Georgia does not have such a statute, would you be willing to offer such legislation in the upcoming session?
I’d be happy to do the research into what OTHER states have done or are doing and/or help draft said legislation.

Thanks and have a MERRY CHRISTMAS and great ‘09.

Dick


38 posted on 12/05/2008 5:24:41 AM PST by Dick Bachert
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To: indylindy
He is hiding something. It won’t stay hidden forever,

And our president - our country - will be blackmailed by those who have the information.

39 posted on 12/05/2008 5:26:53 AM PST by ladyjane
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To: ladyjane

Don’t worry, the NYT will make sure the dark Obama secrets never get out. /s


40 posted on 12/05/2008 5:30:22 AM PST by dforest (Is there any good idea out there that Obama doesn't lay claim to anymore?)
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To: cripplecreek

>>The vetting of candidates is apparently conducted by magical elves.

Best explanation I’ve yet seen.


41 posted on 12/05/2008 5:32:40 AM PST by FreedomPoster (Obama: Carter's only chance to avoid going down in history as the worst U.S. president ever.)
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To: 9422WMR

“Then he say’s that he will take Obama and his families word on where he was born!!!!!!!”

That just shows that Sean does not know about the case at all! It DOES NOT MATTER WHERE OBAMA WAS BORN! Obama’s father was NOT a US citizen and that means Obama is not a “natural born” citizen. Obama is a citizen if he was born in Hawaii, but he is NOT a “natural born” citizen no matter where he was born because HIS FATHER WAS NOT A US CITIZEN.


42 posted on 12/05/2008 5:34:12 AM PST by seekthetruth
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To: waxer1

So here is an interesting proposal for the next election(s), we create a non-profit group whose purpose is to ensure properly vetted candidates. Each primary candidate is asked to submit documentation for verification.

Candidates will be listed via the web and their minimal qualifications tracked as it is verified.

To keep things legit, the requirements would be those as dictated by Constitutional, Federal and State Law.


43 posted on 12/05/2008 5:39:45 AM PST by EBH ( Directive 10-289)
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To: FocusNexus

And good for Mr. Broe and group! Every little bit helps.

http://www.rallycongress.com/constitutional-qualification/1244


44 posted on 12/05/2008 5:44:06 AM PST by real_patriotic_american
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To: seekthetruth

You know, in retrospect I’m glad no one from the GOP or talk show radio has jumped on this. If they had done so all we would have heard for the past few weeks is tin foil hat conspiracy theories. MSM would have brought out the cases just so they could dump on us.

Now as it turns out, the MSM will be the ones that bring this to everyone’s attention. Sure they are going to try and twist the story, brush it under the rug, etc. But pretty soon it’s going to be like taking a 3” hose down to a 1/2’ hose - they are not going to be able to hold back on this story.

So we possibly have a win / win situation: a) Obama gets exposed for the fraud that he is, and b) the MSM gets to be the ones that break this “horrible” news about Obama not being qualified. We might be able to take both of them out at the same time.


45 posted on 12/05/2008 5:45:09 AM PST by Free America52 (I just want it to be the way it always has been.)
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To: FocusNexus
The question is asked and he hides the most logical source of the answer by having his birth certificate sealed. That reflexive reaction does not give logical persons a trusting feeling.

I don't know what his citizenship status is. But, the citizens need a full and complete answer. Not a bureaucratic run-around.

46 posted on 12/05/2008 5:45:16 AM PST by Ghengis (Barack Obama is the kindest, bravest, warmest, most wonderful human being I've ever known in my life)
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To: aj7360

I don’t watch her either (lol)!

http://www.rallycongress.com/constitutional-qualification/1244


47 posted on 12/05/2008 5:46:14 AM PST by real_patriotic_american
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To: FocusNexus

Do you suppose the writers of our Constitution could not imagine any one would not be willing and proud to show his/her proof of citizenship? Perhaps they would have written the Consitution differently if they had imagined anyone would lie about their citizenship or refuse to prove their citizenship.


48 posted on 12/05/2008 5:46:36 AM PST by winkadink
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To: Hardastarboard
“If it is true, then it begs the question - who IS charged with verifying this?”

If nothing else, maybe this case will define who is supposed to vet a presidential candidate. Our daughter was the campaign manager for a local sheriff's candidate, and she said he had to provide birth certificate, proof of residency, income tax return, and other documents that would verify he is qualified to run for sheriff. A county's sheriff is important, but the President of the United States trumps that by a large margin. As far as we know, Obama has not provided anything like that.

49 posted on 12/05/2008 5:47:28 AM PST by Humal
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To: jws3sticks
McCain was born on an American Territory,the Panama Canal Zone, by two USA citizens.

There is evidence available, for what it may be worth, that he was not born in the Panama Canal Zone..

50 posted on 12/05/2008 5:48:21 AM PST by OBXWanderer (www.dontvoterino.com)
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