Skip to comments.What's with Ben Stein?
Posted on 12/06/2008 3:09:54 PM PST by EveningStar
What's with Ben Stein, anyway? He's been acting a bit goofy for a while now, but what he said yesterday makes me wonder if he's lost it.
Michael Medved had Stein on his show yesterday. Ben made several pronouncements:
-- He supports the bailout. Moreover, he would bail out states if needed.
-- He was vehemently opposed to the Sarah Palin pick for VP. I checked out a past YouTube video where he was quite vitriolic about it.
-- He's for taxing the rich at a higher rate. OK. I already knew about this. But, WTFF???
No. I don't think he supported Obama in the election At least I hope not.
I loved Win Ben Stein’s Money. It was one of my favorite shows.
I wrote the guy off when he started supporting Creationism - uh, er - “Intelligent Design”.
I agree. He has written some great editorials but recently his views seem a bit wacky.
I think Ben’s kid is driving him nuts.
Yeah. What really bugged me about it was that he misrepresented the evolution side.
He’s hoping for a job on MSNBC?
You know the old saying that a conservative is a liberal who has been mugged? Well, a liberal is a conservative who has made so much money, that they couldn't possibly spend it in their lifetime.
If you spend too much time in Hollywood or Washington DC, you become acclimatized. It’s called “going native.”
Happens all the time.
I only met him once, but I got the feeling that he’s an FDR democrat at heart. He doesn’t really fit in anywhere.
Ben Stein has always been at his roots an Eastern Establishment type, more comfortable with the elites than with the grass roots.
That would certainly be a HUGE concern of mine [not], since I don’t buy into it at all as it relates to the origin of the species. Actually, I do want both sides depicted honestly, but the inability of the evolutionist to face reality, makes the intelligent design folks look like sages. And that’s something evolutions just can’t come to terms with.
He’s in full panic mode. His investments have gone south.
By the way, where's Mr. Precious these days?
No it is the creationists that look like idiots. There is no evidence for creationism and anyone who thinks the world is 7000 years old is no better than a flat earther or believer in Obama’s change.
Ben's more than just "acclimatized." He's part of the Hollywood machinery. He's certainly not a conservative and never has been. He plays both sides against the middle when it suits him. He's mainly interested in the greater glory and financial success of Ben Stein. He's very talented, smart and is a gifted writer.
>>Yeah. What really bugged me about it was that he misrepresented the evolution side.<<
What exactly do you feel was misrepresented in a movie stating that ID is not allowed to be talked about at University?
Could you please give an example where ID is taught at University, in a non-Catholic school or in a non-Religion class?
And please understand that the evolutionists have defined Intelligent Design as Creationism and therefore all theories of God creating the universe have been shunned unless you can prove otherwise.
If you cannot, you have proved the point of the movie.
Stein was supporting the idea that if the government wants to just print money, it’s not a problem at a time like this considering supposed deflation. He was also on board about any bailout you could imagine. It didn’t sit well with me.
“Intelligent Design” has ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to do with the Bible, Genesis, Fundamentalism, or the earth being 7000 years old!
He’s gone to the dark side.
WHY? ITS TRUE!
Their opponents' tendency to immediately resort to insults makes the ID folks look alot more even mannered as well.
ID and evolution both have gaping holes in them. My issue with both is that both sides feel like it is an all or nothing proposition, that no compromise is possible in science.
Once you start shutting out other theories or idea then your science is dead.
I watched Steins movie Expelled, it was thought provoking at points but you could tell he had the fervor of a “True Believer” and his interviewees on the other side were wacky as hell as well.
That being said, I have felt for a long while that old Ben was indeed his own man and doesnt really subscribe to either side of the political spectrum.. And I can respect that.
There is a fifth dimension beyond that which is known to man. It is a dimension
as vast as space and as timeless as infinity. It is the middle-ground between
light and shadow, between science and superstition, and it lies between the
pit of man’s fears and the summit of his knowledge. This is the dimension of
imagination. It is an area we call the “Twilight Zone”.
Nah He went to Gold in June-July when things started looking like ZERO had conned his way onto the ballot!:-)
Ben Stein is a Nixon conservative. In other words, he’s a liberal.
...says the guy who can’t prove a damned thing with regard to a a solid irrefutable lineage of omeba to Man.
I am always entertained by the pseudo scientists out there who think they have the final word on anything.
Yes, there are questions that I have concerning both creation and evolution. Neither can prove it’s major points. At least the folks who believe in creation understand what faith is. Those who support evolution deny that they must indulge in it to believe their pipe dream.
Now, perhaps you explain how some contemporary beliefs accepted by the scientific community today, are diametrically opposed to beliefs held even twenty years ago. There are plenty out there, and much more if you increase that time frame to eighty years. And in another twenty, theories we have today will also be turned on their heads.
Evolution is a theory. The end. Other theories deserve equal billing.
Maybe he’s made anough money off the conservatives and has decided to switch because he can make money off the lefties now. I have noticed several are going that route.
What cheap cowards.
What happened to his son, who was addicted to a video game and had to be sent away to school? How old is he now?
“There is no evidence for creationism and anyone who thinks the world is 7000 years old”
yes there is. The Word of G-d is the best evidence you can get.
I agree. Most everyone I know believes in evolution. We just keep it in perspective.
Actually, I think a lot more people on the creationism side buy into evolution as a concept. We see clear change in species due to the selection processes, or as a result of geographical or climate changes. They just don’t see it as the origin of man.
On the other hand, evolutionists cannot accept creationism on any level.
I thought the same thing last time I saw him on TV- I thought he was a conservstive
Hes in full panic mode. His investments have gone south.
Either that or he's a fair-weather conservative, and now that a severe economic bubble has burst, he's jumped ship to join the FDR types.
With that movie he has joined the Michael Moore school of film making.
. . . who feels guilty and hasn't thought of charity.
Darwin gave us the Origin of Species, not the Origin of Life.
and when one of the major thinkers in this camp (Dawkins) attempted to explain the beginning, he speculated on an advanced alien species who may have "seeded" our world to create that first cell
Exogenesis / Panspermia. It's one of the possible explanations for the origin of life on Earth. It, however, doesn't solve the actual problem... since it doesn't explain where the aliens came from.
Saying "God Did It!" doesn't explain anything.
If I remember correctly: Dawkins doesn't support panspermia (or exogenesis), he was just citing it as a possible explanation.
He also shows how the application of evolution can, and did, lead to Naziism and the holocaust, eugenics, and now abortion.
Not running through that minefield. :)
Doh! Used an “i” instead of a “p” and ended up with italics instead of a new paragraph.
The Evolution of the "Intelligent Design" textbook Of Pandas and People
Both Creationists and Evolutionists are just guessing.
And then folks try to tell us that intelligent design is science. This is just more evidence that intelligent design is creationism with the serial numbers filed off in an attempt to fool school boards and the courts.
Ben Stein is the reason we stopped our American Spectator subscription years ago.
I don’t think Stein actually supports Creationism or ID personally. What his fild did was to expose some rather - uh, er - embarrassing problems with boilerplate orthodoxy - not to mention some of the colorful personalities of leading evolutionists.
Ben has gone liberal. His column in the NewMax magazine brags up obama (he voted for him) but said nothing positive. The only reason I could see that he voted for him was his color. He sounded just like the libs who say he is the One.