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Obama: Gun owners do not need to stock up
Chicago Sun Times ^ | December 7, 2008 | ABDON M. PALLASCH

Posted on 12/07/2008 7:27:30 PM PST by An Old Man

As gun sales shoot up around the country, President-elect Barack Obama said Sunday that gun-owning Americans do not need to rush out and stock up before he is sworn in next month.

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But National Rifle Association spokesman Andrew Arulanandam said it's not Obama's words — but his legislative track record — that has gun-buyers flocking to the stores.

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"Anyone who thinks they need to rush out and buy a firearm clearly has not been paying attention to how quickly we make progress on this issue. We don't think these are first-time buyers. We think they are people who already have more than enough guns at their homes to protect themselves and are buying more."

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 111th; agenda; banglist; bho2008; bhobanglist; nra; obama; obamarecord; obamatransitionfile; shallnotbeinfringed
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To: Humal

If it ended in a shootout, it would only take a few incidents like that to make it impossible for law enforcement to continue.

You are correct that it is a horrible situation but what else could anyone do? If they start seizing weapons it is for a purpose and stopping it sooner rather than later would be the least bloody.


101 posted on 12/07/2008 11:11:10 PM PST by Sharrukin
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To: An Old Man

I’ve asked my neighbors if they’d give up their firearms. Not one say yes. In fact you cannot buy guns at the local gun store, all firearms sold out.


102 posted on 12/07/2008 11:48:33 PM PST by JamesA (He who hesitates is lost.)
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To: An Old Man

And Chamberlain told the UK not to worry about Adolph.


103 posted on 12/08/2008 2:34:27 AM PST by realdifferent1 (We've tried the soap box, jury box and ballot box. Only one box left.)
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To: An Old Man

Dang! I clicked on your name again.


104 posted on 12/08/2008 4:26:04 AM PST by bricklayer
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To: musicman

Given the stipulations that the dems want to put in an auto-industry bailout, one could concieve that the left DOES want to ban cars.

105 posted on 12/08/2008 4:31:21 AM PST by meyer (We are all John Galt)
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To: meyer; All
"Given the stipulations that the dems want to put in an auto-industry bailout, one could concieve that the left DOES want to ban cars."


106 posted on 12/08/2008 5:28:52 AM PST by musicman
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To: stockpirate

It’s a choke. The restriction is barely discernible by finger, just thousands of an inch. DO NOT FIRE without one in place, you’ll trash the threads. Read the book, and if you want an open one, buy one at your local shop-get cylinder bore. Tell them make of gun, they can get you one.


107 posted on 12/08/2008 6:00:05 AM PST by Aut Pax Aut Bellum (Well, at least we'll probably get another holiday out of the deal.)
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To: Colorado Doug

Gunbroker.com


108 posted on 12/08/2008 6:01:25 AM PST by Aut Pax Aut Bellum (Well, at least we'll probably get another holiday out of the deal.)
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To: Humal

“This is a situation I don’t understand. WHO would we be defending from? Think about after Katrina and New Orleans. The deputies came and took the guns, whether they were registered or not (some got some nice weapons out of that deal as I’m sure the original owners didn’t get them back).
If a deputy came to your house, and you refused to turn over your weapon, if he didn’t kill you, he would call a SWAT team. If they didn’t kill you (unlikely), they would turn it over to the next level of defense (federal probably), who would bump it up and up until you had the tanks, etc. in your front yard.

Could you shoot a deputy (possibly a friend or neighbor) who came to take your gun? I couldn’t. Same thing all the way up the ladder. We would be shooting at friends and neighbors, and the federal government has far more fire power than we do.

I’m not trying to be a smart(alec), but I really don’t understand this.”

I see it happening in several different ways:

1. They come to a person’s house to take away their weapons after they’ve passed a law against gun ownership. Person refused to turn over weapons, if they leave the person would expect them to come back with backup forces. Person now packs up and leaves, or stay and fight. People resisting in this manner would start making the news. More would start resisting.

2. They order people to re-education camps. People refuse knowing that those that fail or cause trouble at the camps will be taken somewhere and executed. So people would refuse to go and decide to make a stand when the Gestopo came for them. Or they would leave and live off the land until the time arrives to make a stand.

3. Some event triggers a large protest to happen by patriots and government forces fire into the unarmed crowds. If the government forces refuse to fire into the protesters the government would collapse and we’d set up a constitutional government. In the event troops fired on the crowds, the next protests would be attended by armed patriots. At this stage we have a revolution on our hands.

4. Patriots start moving into areas of the country where there are large groups of conservatives. At some point the group of states seceed from the union and create a new constituional republic using our same US Constitution.

Just a note, if the left can ignore the US Constitutution can’t patriots also ignore it and refuse to pay taxes because we think it is outdated and old and silly?


109 posted on 12/08/2008 6:03:07 AM PST by stockpirate (Democrat Syndrome, psychological disorder that makes victims loyal to their abusers)
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To: Aut Pax Aut Bellum

Thanks!


110 posted on 12/08/2008 6:03:47 AM PST by stockpirate (Democrat Syndrome, psychological disorder that makes victims loyal to their abusers)
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To: Sharrukin
If they start seizing weapons it is for a purpose


"Never Forget, even for an instant, that the one and only reason anybody has for taking your gun away is to make you weaker than he is, so he can do something to you that you wouldn't allow him to do if you were equipped to prevent it. This goes for burglars, muggers, and rapists, and even more so for policemen, bureaucrats, and politicians." -Alexander Hope, from the novel "Hope" by L. Neil Smith and Aaron Zelman
111 posted on 12/08/2008 6:04:43 AM PST by MrB (The 0bamanation: Marxism, Infanticide, Appeasement, Depression, Thuggery, and Censorship)
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To: stockpirate
if the left can ignore the US Constitutution can’t patriots also ignore it and refuse to pay taxes because we think it is outdated and old and silly?

The reason the left ignores the Constitution (when it doesn't suit their purposes) is that they believe they, being modern day thinkers with more information than the founders, know better than those that wrote such restrictions on their behaviors.

As you said, though, two can play at that game.
"The founders couldn't have known that the educational system would become so corrupt that the majority would prefer communism. So, since we know better, given the information we have now, we are fully justified in not funding the government".

PS - you can do your part in not funding the gov't by jumping through a few hoops and legally reducing your taxes by about half, if you find out how.

112 posted on 12/08/2008 6:08:45 AM PST by MrB (The 0bamanation: Marxism, Infanticide, Appeasement, Depression, Thuggery, and Censorship)
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To: An Old Man
"has not been paying attention to how quickly we make progress on this issue."

WTH does he mean by that?

113 posted on 12/08/2008 6:11:35 AM PST by OKSooner
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To: An Old Man

Said the spider to the fly.


114 posted on 12/08/2008 6:12:44 AM PST by jetson
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To: OKSooner

Sounds like a slip, meaning -

we’ll get laws enacted to restrict sales and ownership faster than you subjects can react.


115 posted on 12/08/2008 6:13:13 AM PST by MrB (The 0bamanation: Marxism, Infanticide, Appeasement, Depression, Thuggery, and Censorship)
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To: PugetSoundSoldier; stockpirate

Don’t fire the gun with the choke removed, it will damage the barrel threads, just buy a cylinder choke or skeet.


116 posted on 12/08/2008 6:15:16 AM PST by Tijeras_Slim
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To: stockpirate

Tes, it is a choke, but don’t fire it without one in place. May destrot the threads. Get a “cylinder” bored choke for faster patter spread. A “full” will make the pattern tight for longer range. “Improved cylinder” is closer to “cylinder” and “modified” is closer to “full”.


117 posted on 12/08/2008 6:20:41 AM PST by MileHi ( "It's coming down to patriots vs the politicians." - ovrtaxt)
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To: KingNo155; stockpirate

>>”Without seeing the gun i think your refering to the choke, which would mean the gun could accept 2 different size shells”<<

NO, NO, NO!!

WRONG!

DISREGARD THIS ADVICE......!!!


118 posted on 12/08/2008 6:21:56 AM PST by panaxanax ("Those who beat their swords into plowshares will plow for those that don't." T.Jefferson)
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To: Tijeras_Slim

Thx!


119 posted on 12/08/2008 6:22:12 AM PST by stockpirate (Democrat Syndrome, psychological disorder that makes victims loyal to their abusers)
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To: MileHi

thx.


120 posted on 12/08/2008 6:22:44 AM PST by stockpirate (Democrat Syndrome, psychological disorder that makes victims loyal to their abusers)
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