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Obama: Gun owners do not need to stock up
Chicago Sun Times ^ | December 7, 2008 | ABDON M. PALLASCH

Posted on 12/07/2008 7:27:30 PM PST by An Old Man

As gun sales shoot up around the country, President-elect Barack Obama said Sunday that gun-owning Americans do not need to rush out and stock up before he is sworn in next month.

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But National Rifle Association spokesman Andrew Arulanandam said it's not Obama's words — but his legislative track record — that has gun-buyers flocking to the stores.

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"Anyone who thinks they need to rush out and buy a firearm clearly has not been paying attention to how quickly we make progress on this issue. We don't think these are first-time buyers. We think they are people who already have more than enough guns at their homes to protect themselves and are buying more."

(Excerpt) Read more at suntimes.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events
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To: stockpirate
Wow! I can't believe some of the stupid posts you received on you question about the choke tube.

Don't remove the tube and fire the gun without a tube in it!

It will ruin the threads in the end of your barrel. Take you tube out and read what it says on it...XF F M IC Cyl.

XF is extra full, it is a very tight pattern. Cyl is no choke restriction at all and a wide pattern.

You may want to get an IC ( improved cylinder) tube for close range shooting, but never fire the gun without one of the various tubes installed because it will ruin the tube threads and render you barrel worthless.

151 posted on 12/08/2008 9:21:12 AM PST by Beagle8U (FreeRepublic -- One stop shopping ....... Its the Conservative Super WalMart for news .)
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To: stockpirate
BTW- the end of the barrel has a little part that can be unscrewed and removed from the inside of the barrel. It’s about 3 inches long.

Anyone know what or why or the purpose.

It's called a choke. It controls how much the shot spreads out as it leaves the barrel. The tighter (smaller) the choke tube, the farther the shot spreads before it begins to spread and lose velocity.

A more open choke (larger internal diameter) spreads faster, and would be used for closer in work. A tighter choke (smaller internal diameter) is used for shooting at targets farther away (think geese flying overhead). Having a removable choke allows the gun owner to adjust to changing shooting conditions without having to own multiple barrels.

152 posted on 12/08/2008 9:22:59 AM PST by Hardastarboard (Why do I find the Toyota "Saved by Zero" ads so ironic?)
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To: An Old Man

Obama's voice to brain-dead crowd:

"I want you to let the authorities know if your neighbor has any guns."

153 posted on 12/08/2008 9:31:30 AM PST by SIDENET (Hubba Hubba...)
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To: CrystalD
The Fresh Prince of Bill Ayers ...

Speaking the Fresh Prince, how soon before we see Will Smith starring in a movie of 0bama's life story?

154 posted on 12/08/2008 9:36:22 AM PST by rllngrk33 (The RATs and Media are the enemy.)
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To: MileHi; stockpirate

If you REALLY want to see a spread pattern, once by mistake I fired buck through a rifled barrel meant for slugs. Hit the target in a doughnut pattern.


155 posted on 12/08/2008 9:38:52 AM PST by PapaBear3625 (Question O-thority)
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To: Beelzebubba
“Anyone who thinks they need to rush out and buy a firearm clearly has not been paying attention to how quickly we make progress on this issue. We don’t think these are first-time buyers. We think they are people who already have more than enough guns at their homes to protect themselves and are buying more.”

The people who are buying are likely to already be owners, who are buying because they know their relatives and friends may not see it coming, but are going to want to be supplied when it finally comes.

156 posted on 12/08/2008 9:43:51 AM PST by PapaBear3625 (Question O-thority)
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To: bricklayer
"Dang! I clicked on your name again."

Sooner or later, you will learn not to do that!

157 posted on 12/08/2008 9:55:50 AM PST by An Old Man
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To: MrB
"PS - you can do your part in not funding the gov't by jumping through a few hoops and legally reducing your taxes by about half, if you find out how. "

I believe it is possible to get it down to Zero!

158 posted on 12/08/2008 10:00:42 AM PST by An Old Man
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To: An Old Man

I walked into a local gunshop last week. On the bulletin board was a picture of Obama with the caption “Employee Of The Month”.

The place was pretty well picked over.


159 posted on 12/08/2008 10:18:22 AM PST by Strzelec (Soon, folks are going to find out who this John Galt guy really is...)
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To: musicman

Like I believe him??. . .

With the unsettled question of amnesty for illegal aliens who have no regard for our law and literally give us the middle finger and importing murders, robbery and burglary, I am buying my first gun


160 posted on 12/08/2008 10:23:52 AM PST by volslover
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To: ExSoldier
That's a very good analogy.
161 posted on 12/08/2008 10:31:38 AM PST by kitchen (Any day without a fair tax thread is a good day.)
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To: KingNo155
Why does Obamba refer to himself as we?


162 posted on 12/08/2008 10:40:57 AM PST by America2012
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To: An Old Man

The era of change is arriving. Change will come so fast and often you will get dizzy trying to follow. In particular any statement or promise made during the campaign is in the same receptacle with New Years Resolutions.


163 posted on 12/08/2008 10:51:14 AM PST by RightWhale (We were so young two years ago and the DJIA was 12,000)
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To: Zechariah_8_13

“Obotomized”; Great expression!


164 posted on 12/08/2008 10:56:13 AM PST by NaughtiusMaximus (I refuse allegiance to any foreign born alleged president.)
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To: KingNo155
I have the same question regarding the Koran. The book's directives are mostly in first person plural, but Muhammet claimed that they are the direct words of Allah, and that there is no God but Allah.

So, my unanswered question is why the first person plural? If it contains Allah's words, the book should be in first person singular. If there is only one God, first person singular goes again.

I think those who deem themselves more worthy than the general population have a tendency to speak in the plural voice because they think everyone should think the same way that they do.

165 posted on 12/08/2008 11:00:39 AM PST by Skenderbej
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To: stockpirate

“Obama’s comment’s about a national police force sent chills down my spine.”

Exactly my reaction. Socialists and Communists have used this for only one purpose in countries where it has been established.

There is a good reason that this type of thing was feared by the framers.


166 posted on 12/08/2008 11:04:44 AM PST by EEDUDE
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To: stockpirate

“Just a note, if the left can ignore the US Constitutution can’t patriots also ignore it and refuse to pay taxes because we think it is outdated and old and silly?”

A general revolt is provided for in the Constitution. The Declaration if Independence is codified law.

tahDeetz


167 posted on 12/08/2008 11:21:45 AM PST by ebiskit (South Park Republican ( I see Red People ))
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To: Beelzebubba

How about lead? I found some lead bullion on EBAY, and I’m buying small amounts of it. It says on one ad that a lot of things can be made with it, like ammunition. ;)

Not too expensive either! I know it’s not in the proper form. But it can be made in the right form, can’t it? People who saw “The Patriot” remember what B.Martin managed to do with his dead boy’s toy soldiers, do they? ;)
Exactly!


168 posted on 12/08/2008 11:27:05 AM PST by dsutah
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To: ebiskit

“A general revolt is provided for in the Constitution. The Declaration if Independence is codified law.”

So this would mean that an armed insurrection is not against the law?


169 posted on 12/08/2008 11:31:58 AM PST by stockpirate (Democrat Syndrome, psychological disorder that makes victims loyal to their abusers)
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To: An Old Man
Peter Hamm, spokesman for the Brady Campaign against Gun Violence: We think they are people who already have more than enough guns at their homes to protect themselves and are buying more.

I am sick to death of liberals who think it's their place to decide what's "enough" of anything for me.

170 posted on 12/08/2008 11:35:34 AM PST by Cyber Liberty (Pretending the Admin Moderator doesn't exist will result in suspension.)
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To: kAcknor
DO NOT remove the choke. Yes there is a reason for doing so, but the same can be had by replacing the choke that's in there with a "Cylinder", which is what it might be to begin with. Essentially a NO CHOKE.

Chokes tubes are marked on the side, with what they are. "Cyl", "Imp Cyl", "Mod", "Full" etc.

Just don't shoot it with out a tube screwed in. You'll damage the threads.

171 posted on 12/08/2008 11:42:56 AM PST by AFreeBird
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To: dsutah

How about lead? I found some lead bullion on EBAY, and I’m buying small amounts of it. It says on one ad that a lot of things can be made with it, like ammunition. ;)


Yes, lead is way down. And you can ship 50-70 pounds priority flat rate for less than $10.

You can get 50# for $50 including shipping.


172 posted on 12/08/2008 11:53:41 AM PST by Atlas Sneezed (Guns don't kill people. Criminals and the governments that create them kill people.)
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To: DCBryan1

went to find a copy as a gift...up to $200 at Amazon!
Yikes

I found my copy at a garage sale a few years ago for $1.


173 posted on 12/08/2008 12:13:17 PM PST by woollyone ("When the tide is low, even a shrimp has its own puddle." - Vance Havner)
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To: PapaBear3625; stockpirate

Actually, I have a rifled choke tube in my 20” iron sighted Rem 870. It will shoot slugs in the black at 90 yds. and still pattern buckshot well at 30 - 35 yds. I keep it handy at home for that reason.

If you were shooting a fully rifled slug gun I suppose that might give the shot cup a pretty good spin though. Bet that was ammusing to observe.


174 posted on 12/08/2008 12:35:43 PM PST by MileHi ( "It's coming down to patriots vs the politicians." - ovrtaxt)
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To: MileHi
If you were shooting a fully rifled slug gun I suppose that might give the shot cup a pretty good spin though. Bet that was ammusing to observe.

I had swapped a fully-rifled slug barrel onto my shotgun. My instructor joked that I had discovered a novel way to deal with a hostage situation: aim at the hostage and it would get everybody around him.

175 posted on 12/08/2008 1:03:26 PM PST by PapaBear3625 (Question O-thority)
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To: An Old Man

The irony is that Obama has been the best thing to happen to the gun industry since...since...uhhhh...

The AMC Pacer was to the auto industry...You know...Better gas mileage...etc etc...

I better shut up while I am still behind...

/sarc


176 posted on 12/08/2008 2:07:36 PM PST by stevie_d_64
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To: TribalPrincess2U

“Running a country isn’t as easy as you though is it dimwit?”


Notice after their little face to face Bush and Obama had a few weeks ago...

And that when the President is asked somethign about how the transition is going with the Obama team...There is this little smirk he gives...

I have a feeling he said to Obama, “Ok, numbnut...This is reality, and now you got it...”


177 posted on 12/08/2008 2:12:56 PM PST by stevie_d_64
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To: stevie_d_64
I have a feeling he said to Obama, “Ok, numbnut...This is reality, and now you got it...”

And I hope everyone will give Ø is same thoughtfulness, compassion, and respect the dimwits gave President Bush. As we well know WAS NONE OF THE ABOVE!

Oh, and I hope Strisand doesn't get dizzy and fall on her nose while sucking in Ø's breath.

178 posted on 12/08/2008 2:21:32 PM PST by TribalPrincess2U (Dirty Dems at their best is always the worse.)
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To: Cyber Liberty
I am sick to death of liberals who think it's their place to decide what's "enough" of anything for me.

But they'll make you think you'll get something in return to think otherwise.

179 posted on 12/08/2008 2:27:28 PM PST by TribalPrincess2U (Dirty Dems at their best is always the worse.)
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To: TribalPrincess2U

What?


180 posted on 12/08/2008 2:49:05 PM PST by Cyber Liberty (Pretending the Admin Moderator doesn't exist will result in suspension.)
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To: Cyber Liberty

But they’ll make you think you’ll get something in return to think otherwise.

Meaning: The Liberals/Ø’ will try convince you that you will get something for nothing if you vote for a Dem.

Hard to express my thoughts here. Sorry


181 posted on 12/08/2008 2:57:54 PM PST by TribalPrincess2U (Dirty Dems at their best is always the worse.)
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To: TribalPrincess2U

True...True...


182 posted on 12/08/2008 3:05:38 PM PST by stevie_d_64
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To: stockpirate
stockpirate, you hypothesize some very good scenarios that I too can envision.

#2 “Or they would leave and live off the land until the time arrives to make a stand.” In the west, Midwest, Alaska, or even Canada would probably offer enough open land to do this.

#3 “If the government forces refuse to fire into the protesters the government would collapse...” What about the civilian security force Obama wants to form? Would that be “In the event troops fired on the crowds, the next protests would be attended by armed patriots. At this stage we have a revolution on our hands.”? This has happened before, but more equally armed.

#4 “Patriots start moving into areas of the country where there are large groups of conservatives. At some point the group of states secede from the union...” There have been suggestions of just this happening on FR. It may have been said tongue in cheek, but this too has happened before.

Thank you for your detailed reply. It has certainly given me something to think about.

183 posted on 12/08/2008 3:47:48 PM PST by Humal
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To: Daffynition
"Anyone who thinks they need to rush out and buy a firearm clearly has not been paying attention to how quickly we make progress on this issue. We don't think these are first-time buyers. We think they are people who already have more than enough guns at their homes to protect themselves and are buying more."

He wishes:

"First-time buyers account for up to 20 percent of sales, and they are outspoken as to why, said owner Dave Costley."

http://www.stltoday.com/stltoday/news/stories.nsf/illinoisnews/story/3CC8C4ED1CA202A4862575170018A37F?OpenDocument

184 posted on 12/08/2008 4:36:02 PM PST by Fido969 ("The hardest thing in the world to understand is income tax." - Albert Einstein)
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To: GladesGuru
Well said. Winston Churchill had it right a long time ago, and it's still applicable today.

Thank you for the compliment on my family's law enforcement service. They have accomplished a lot of good for the community, but they've given me a lot of gray hair in the process. :-)

185 posted on 12/08/2008 7:06:07 PM PST by Humal
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To: TribalPrincess2U
I am sorry, 'twas I who was vague...

You expressed your question clearly, and I got that. I was asking, What could I be given in return?

:^)

186 posted on 12/09/2008 11:44:32 AM PST by Cyber Liberty (Pretending the Admin Moderator doesn't exist will result in suspension.)
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