Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

Challenging Obama's Eligibility Only Steps from the White House
America's Right ^ | December 8, 2008 | Jeff Schreiber

Posted on 12/09/2008 5:34:18 AM PST by Hang'emAll

A stone’s throw away from the White House, more than 50 members of the press and curious onlookers alike crowded the intimate Edward R. Murrow Room at the National Press Club in Washington, D.C. this afternoon to hear arguments why Barack Obama is constitutionally ineligible to serve as president of the United States.

The press conference was sponsored by Robert Schulz and his We The People Foundation, both of which just this last week ran an open letter to the former Illinois senator in his hometown Chicago Tribune, appealing to Obama to present for review any and all documentation which will prove his qualification to serve as president pursuant to Article II, Section 1 of the U.S. Constitution. Also attending the press conference: Philip Berg, a Pennsylvania attorney who, in August, filed the first lawsuit questioning Obama’s constitutional eligibility; Orly Taitz, a Chechnyan immigrant turned southern California dentist and lawyer who has filed a pair of suits in the Golden State, one of which was on behalf of Ambassador and former GOP presidential candidate Alan Keyes, who ran as the Independent Party’s candidate for president in this past election.; and Rev. James David Manning, chief pastor at the Harlem-based ATLAH World Missionary Church....... Schulz stated that “as supreme law of the land, the Constitution is all that stands between freedom and tyranny.” He noted that “the Constitution is not a menu” and that we “do not get to pick and choose” which provisions and guidelines to follow, maintaining that the Natural Born Citizen clause was designed by our founders to “safeguard our nation from outside influence.”

“The Obama citizenship issue is so simple that a schoolchild could understand it, ..

(Excerpt) Read more at americasright.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Extended News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: birthcertificate; certifigate; naturalborn; notthisshiitagain; obama
Long article and good account of the meeting.
1 posted on 12/09/2008 5:34:19 AM PST by Hang'emAll
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | View Replies]

To: Hang'emAll

Did you see the obama ad that google put on that blog site? (they own blogger.com)


2 posted on 12/09/2008 5:47:23 AM PST by Doug TX
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Hang'emAll
Berg said. “Obama places our Constitution in a crisis situation, and will be able to be blackmailed by other world leaders who know he is not qualified.”

This strikes me as an extremely stupid statement. What are these "world leaders" going to say that has not already been said here at FR and many other places? Why would the people who do not care now about whether Obama is Constitutionally qualified care in the future because some "world leader" they are only barely aware exists states that such is the case?

ML/NJ

3 posted on 12/09/2008 5:49:49 AM PST by ml/nj
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: STARWISE

Ping! Thought you might be interested in this article.


4 posted on 12/09/2008 5:51:07 AM PST by penelopesire ("The only CHANGE you will get with the Democrats is the CHANGE left in your pocket")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: All

Hate to be picky but as Phillip Berg himself writes:

He is not an attorney.


5 posted on 12/09/2008 5:54:51 AM PST by imintrouble
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 4 | View Replies]

To: ml/nj

Except that is correct. So far Obama’s been able to say “Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain” and the press and citizens have ignored this. People who want citizenship proof are labeled bitter nuts. What if more Americans were given info? Do you think Obama would risk it?


6 posted on 12/09/2008 5:55:08 AM PST by DJ MacWoW (Make yourselves sheep and the wolves will eat you. Ben Franklin)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 3 | View Replies]

To: ml/nj

Because if another ‘world leader’ (like Putin or some other) shows proof of an Obama cover-up on his BC, the CORRUPT American Press will have to cover it and even more Americans will start to doubt ‘The Messiah’. That’s why he is vulnerable if this stuff is true. Don’t forget that Obama plans on ruling America for at least two terms.


7 posted on 12/09/2008 5:57:08 AM PST by penelopesire ("The only CHANGE you will get with the Democrats is the CHANGE left in your pocket")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 3 | View Replies]

To: Hang'emAll

RE :”He noted that “the Constitution is not a menu” and that we “do not get to pick and choose” which provisions and guidelines to follow, “

We lost that argument decades ago. It is just another political appointment, the public has accepted that. File this lawsuit effort under DOA.


8 posted on 12/09/2008 5:57:30 AM PST by sickoflibs (Obama says: "I only need to buy 40% of voters with handouts and trick another 11%")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Hang'emAll
http://www.blogtalkradio.com/stations/HeadingRight/ASKShow

Did you get to hear the interview on BlogTalkRadio last evening with Rev. Manning? He is so fantastic and unafraid to speak the truth in love. I tell you what, that man is definitely doing God's work. He's telling his audiences and congregation that they should not be angry at anyone but Obama for being a fraud and trying to break the Constitution to become President. He stated that Berg said that Ortiz/Keyes case was stronger than his and will be heard by the full Court just a few days before the Electoral College votes. (Some here have classed Berg as a "nut case" and the Media have vilified him, too, calling him a "lawyer and professional poker player" [two professions that go hand in hand?])

Rev Manning had some words for us white people, too, that you might want to hear. Veritas vos Liberabit.
9 posted on 12/09/2008 6:02:06 AM PST by HighlyOpinionated (The USofA, Conservative, Traditional, Constitutional , , , now it's up to the SCOTUSofA.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: ml/nj

ml/nj said: “This strikes me as an extremely stupid statement. What are these “world leaders” going to say that has not already been said here at FR and many other places? Why would the people who do not care now about whether Obama is Constitutionally qualified care in the future because some “world leader” they are only barely aware exists states that such is the case?”

Obama’s past involvement overseas and his life even here in the U.S. has been wiped clean and there is little known about it. He has had though a lot of foreign influence and connections throughout his life. There is still a lot that is not known about him by the average American but surely there are aspects of his life that are known to foreigners that we do not know. I do not see how it is an incredibly stupid statement to think that he could be blackmailed by foreign sources.


10 posted on 12/09/2008 6:05:30 AM PST by TheBigIf
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 3 | View Replies]

To: HighlyOpinionated
Did the Reverend say whether Berg was successful when he sued Bush and Cheney for causing 911?
11 posted on 12/09/2008 6:07:08 AM PST by blaquebyrd
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 9 | View Replies]

To: ml/nj

It doesn’t matter if you believe the US constitution doesn’t matter.

A foreign agent who had access to information that the US president is illegitimate could do a lot of damage.


12 posted on 12/09/2008 6:07:15 AM PST by Doug TX
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 3 | View Replies]

To: blaquebyrd
Did the Reverend say whether Berg was successful when he sued Bush and Cheney for causing 911?

Well now! That proves Obama was born in Hawaii! /sarc

13 posted on 12/09/2008 6:12:30 AM PST by DJ MacWoW (Make yourselves sheep and the wolves will eat you. Ben Franklin)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 11 | View Replies]

To: HighlyOpinionated

Rev. Manning is an excellent example of straight talk and moral courage, and it doesn’t hurt that he’s black, either. Some who aren’t used to his brand of hard preaching find him hard to take, like when he calls Obama’s mama “trash.” But I think the good outweighs the bad. He seems to be a man who can be trusted to speak truth to power.


14 posted on 12/09/2008 6:13:09 AM PST by Genoa
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 9 | View Replies]

To: ml/nj

It seems pretty simple. If any world leader has proof that 0bama is NOT a natural born citizen, that world leader can blackmail him into doing great harm to the United States of America.


15 posted on 12/09/2008 6:15:03 AM PST by kitkat (THE DAY WE LOSE OUR WILL TO FIGHT WILL BE THE DAY WE LOSE OUR FREEDOM.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 3 | View Replies]

To: DJ MacWoW
No that proves, Berg and Corsi and loons who FReepers laughed at and shunned as being part of the loony left with their 911 truther conspiracy theories. Do you think they are any less crazy now? They still believe Bush and Cheney took down the towers and should be prosecuted. I was only asking if the Reverend inquired about the success of those 911 truther suits.
16 posted on 12/09/2008 6:17:23 AM PST by blaquebyrd
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 13 | View Replies]

To: blaquebyrd
I was only asking if the Reverend inquired about the success of those 911 truther suits.

No you weren't. You were trying to throw mud and see what sticks. It has no bearing on where Obama was born and why he won't relesease any records, college or birth.

17 posted on 12/09/2008 6:24:13 AM PST by DJ MacWoW (Make yourselves sheep and the wolves will eat you. Ben Franklin)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 16 | View Replies]

To: HighlyOpinionated

You said — “Did you get to hear the interview on BlogTalkRadio last evening with Rev. Manning?”

I’m listening to him talk about the “long-legged macdaddy”.... LOL..


18 posted on 12/09/2008 6:25:16 AM PST by Star Traveler
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 9 | View Replies]

To: Hang'emAll

And a couple of years from now when this has gone nowhere and it is announced that the US will NOT be deploying a missle shield after all in Eastern Europe, we will know that Putin has the real birth certificate from Mombassa.


19 posted on 12/09/2008 6:29:39 AM PST by aj7360
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Hang'emAll

IMO, this is a dead issue. The SC has refused to explore it, it never came up in either the Dem primaries or the GOP tilt, besides his mother is a bonafide American citizen. 0bama won the election mainly because of Bush’s record of the last 8 years...so we lost and it’s time to move on. Believe me, there’ll be much better issues ahead to examine 0bama’s fitness to serve.


20 posted on 12/09/2008 6:31:43 AM PST by meandog (Wasilla warrior in 2012!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Star Traveler

I would like to watch a Manning-Wright homiletical smackdown.


21 posted on 12/09/2008 6:40:18 AM PST by Genoa
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 18 | View Replies]

To: DJ MacWoW
Referencing Berg's 911 truther law suits against President Bush and Vice President Cheney is throwing mud? No sir, those are facts that are relevant to his state of mind when as it relates to conspiracy theories. Ignoring his 911 truther credentials doesn't make them go away. Do you believe as Berg does that President Bush and Cheney should be prosecuted for causing 911?
22 posted on 12/09/2008 6:47:54 AM PST by blaquebyrd
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 17 | View Replies]

To: ml/nj
I don't think consequences would be in what they might say. There are some world leaders who would welcome any excuse to thumb their noses at and defy the U.S. It could come down to how they treat any agreement with the U.S.
23 posted on 12/09/2008 6:51:14 AM PST by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 3 | View Replies]

To: blaquebyrd

Again, it has nothing to do with the 15 to 17 cases about presidential qualifications. You and others throw it out there to try and muddy the water. Debate the facts of the current cases.


24 posted on 12/09/2008 6:54:02 AM PST by DJ MacWoW (Make yourselves sheep and the wolves will eat you. Ben Franklin)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 22 | View Replies]

To: DJ MacWoW

“Debate the facts of the current cases.”

Exactly. The sign of a weak defense is the defendant ignoring the facts and law, and abusing the plaintiff or “poisoning the well.”
The larger questions is: why are some here defending Obama? If they think this is a waste of time, well, then go over to chat or just stay the hell off these threads.


25 posted on 12/09/2008 7:26:13 AM PST by tumblindice (If you need me, I'll be cleaning my guns)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 24 | View Replies]

To: ml/nj
"Why would the people who do not care now about whether Obama is Constitutionally qualified care in the future because some "world leader" they are only barely aware exists states that such is the case?"

Duh! Maybe the sheeple might take notice of PROOF published in foreign newspapers all over the world, something our compliant press could not pretend doesn't exist, if the President refused to be blackmailed by some foreign gov't like the Chinese or the Russians. (Although I seriously doubt that our President would need to be blackmailed to do their bidding since the past couple of Presidents don't seem to have needed anything more than a bribe!)

26 posted on 12/09/2008 7:27:00 AM PST by penowa
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 3 | View Replies]

To: Hang'emAll
“My case in district court was dismissed for one reason – standing,” Berg said. “According to the court, I don't have standing, Bob doesn't have standing, no one in this room has standing."

On one had the liberals claim that "the people" are responsible for vetting the candidates for president and on the other they point to Berg's case to say the he has no standing. Isn't Berg one of "the people" and doesn't HE have a right to see for himself if Obama is qualified?

27 posted on 12/09/2008 7:28:18 AM PST by Blood of Tyrants (Obama is the Antichrist.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: tumblindice

I think some just like to argue. And some think the 9/11 statement is clever. And some are trolls.


28 posted on 12/09/2008 7:29:40 AM PST by DJ MacWoW (Make yourselves sheep and the wolves will eat you. Ben Franklin)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 25 | View Replies]

To: imintrouble
"He [Berg] is not an attorney."

Where did you get that? He's a practicing attorney in PA and formerly held a position in the Attorney General's office that required a law degree.

29 posted on 12/09/2008 7:36:54 AM PST by penowa
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 5 | View Replies]

To: penowa
Maybe the sheeple might take notice of PROOF published in foreign newspapers

Hey! Duh!

Open your eyes. Pravda had the story a week ago. Few noticed.

ML/NJ

30 posted on 12/09/2008 7:42:53 AM PST by ml/nj
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 26 | View Replies]

To: ml/nj

Yeah but it was one article and most Americans didn’t see it. I think it’s a shame. Our press is not doing it’s job but then, it hasn’t for sometime now.


31 posted on 12/09/2008 7:47:05 AM PST by DJ MacWoW (Make yourselves sheep and the wolves will eat you. Ben Franklin)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 30 | View Replies]

To: ml/nj

Did Pravda print a copy of his Kenyan B.C. or just print a rambling article that sounded like it was written by some AP writer? Sorry, it was an article that said - what if - and offered no proof.


32 posted on 12/09/2008 7:56:18 AM PST by penowa
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 30 | View Replies]

To: Hang'emAll
Obama is trained to circumvent The Constitution in every
way possible! We shouldn’t be surprised, based on his past performance.
33 posted on 12/09/2008 8:36:24 AM PST by upcountryhorseman (An old fashioned conservative)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Admin Moderator

Mods, can you please look into the keyword abuse again? Someone posted notthisshitagain as a keyword.


34 posted on 12/09/2008 9:01:21 AM PST by Kevmo (Palin/Hunter 2012)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Kevmo

You know, if someone isn’t interested in the debate, why not just move on? This keyword spamming is childish. I also read that the Mods can see who posts a keyword. Too much abuse and they could have a vacation.


35 posted on 12/09/2008 9:27:38 AM PST by DJ MacWoW (Make yourselves sheep and the wolves will eat you. Ben Franklin)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 34 | View Replies]

To: DJ MacWoW; searchin

Too much abuse and they could have a vacation.
***Yup. The last troll to get the zot for this on Certifigate threads was Searchin. I wonder who’s next.


36 posted on 12/09/2008 9:45:51 AM PST by Kevmo (Palin/Hunter 2012)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 35 | View Replies]

To: Kevmo

Not everybody on FR is a grownup.


37 posted on 12/09/2008 9:51:27 AM PST by DJ MacWoW (Make yourselves sheep and the wolves will eat you. Ben Franklin)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 36 | View Replies]

To: DJ MacWoW; Admin Moderator

Not everybody on FR is a grownup.
***This particular case is quite mild. Check out the typical keyword abuse on other certifigate threads, like this one.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2145433/posts

alienbuttprobe; cuckooforcocoapuffs; enoughalready; fewcansshortofa6pack; getalife; icecreammandrake; itsover; kookmagnetthread; larrysinclairslover; leftwingspinwhores; loserwackos; morethorazineplease; notthisshiitagain; offmymeds; preciousbodilyfluids; purityofessence; rightwingtroofers; sapandimpurify; tinfoil; tinfoilhatalert;


38 posted on 12/09/2008 10:04:48 AM PST by Kevmo (Palin/Hunter 2012)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 37 | View Replies]

To: Kevmo

Makes me glad that I seldom read the keywords. That keyword list looks like an eighth grade boys list made during gym class.


39 posted on 12/09/2008 10:14:33 AM PST by DJ MacWoW (Make yourselves sheep and the wolves will eat you. Ben Franklin)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 38 | View Replies]

To: penowa

My apologies and thanks to you for the correction and apologies to the readers here.

I confused Berg with Benjamin.


40 posted on 12/09/2008 1:51:30 PM PST by imintrouble
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 29 | View Replies]

To: ml/nj

Russian Newspapers are reporting Obama illegibility and they are not even referring to him as Barack H. Obama. They call him Barry Sotoro. Last night on Plains Radio, a caller called from Australia. Obviously this is not just America’s dirty little secret.


41 posted on 12/09/2008 6:54:38 PM PST by ColdDecember (It is not just the BC)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 3 | View Replies]

To: ColdDecember
I'm pretty sure we have a few Aussies here on FR.

ML/Nj

42 posted on 12/10/2008 4:42:42 AM PST by ml/nj
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 41 | View Replies]

To: ml/nj
Hey! Duh!

Open your eyes. Pravda had the story a week ago. Few noticed.

The poster "penowa" was talking about proof...not speculation by Pravda.

Open your own eyes. If Obama is lying about his natural-born status, he's blackmailable by anyone who can prove the lie.

43 posted on 12/10/2008 4:56:09 AM PST by Chunga (Vote Republican)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 30 | View Replies]

To: Chunga
My eyes are open. Almost all of those folks who voted for Obama do not care where Obama was born or who his father was, if they think he had a father at all.

ML/NJ

44 posted on 12/10/2008 5:05:25 AM PST by ml/nj
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 43 | View Replies]

To: ml/nj
My eyes are open. Almost all of those folks who voted for Obama do not care where Obama was born or who his father was, if they think he had a father at all.

So what? This isn't a political issue. It's a legal issue.

If it were determined by law that Obama is not a natural-born citizen, The Supreme Court would rule 9-0 that he's ineligible to serve as President.

As such, if he's not natural-born, he can be blackmailed.

45 posted on 12/10/2008 2:58:31 PM PST by Chunga (Vote Republican)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 44 | View Replies]

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson