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(NY) Governor Paterson proposes 'Obesity Tax,' a tax on non-diet sodas
NY Daily News ^ | December 15, 2008 | GLENN BLAIN and KENNETH LOVETT

Posted on 12/15/2008 9:52:33 AM PST by presidio9

A can of Coke could soon cost New Yorkers more than just calories.

Gov. Paterson, as part of a $121 billion budget to be unveiled Tuesday, will propose an "obesity tax" of about 15% on nondiet drinks.

This means a Diet Coke might sell for a $1 - even as the same size bottle of its calorie-rich alter ego would go for $1.15.

Paterson's budget also calls for a 3% cut in education spending, a $620-a-year tuition hike at SUNY and a $600 increase at CUNY - and about $3.5 billion in health care cuts, a source said.

The Democratic governor will not call for a broad-based income tax boost, but he will push to restore the sales tax on clothing and footwear.

The drastic belt-tightening comes as lawmakers struggle to close a $15 billion deficit this year and next.

"It's painful to make these decisions," Paterson said Sunday.

State employees again will be asked to forgo their 3% raises next year and defer five days' pay until they leave their jobs, the source said. In all, Paterson will propose about $9 billion in cuts, $4 billion in new taxes and fees, and $1.5 billion in nonrecurring revenue, a second source said.

The so-called obesity tax would generate an estimated $404 million a year. Milk, juice, diet soda and bottled water would be exempt from the tax.

"I'll just buy less," said Victor Lopez, 55, of Manhattan, as he drank a Coke at a midtown Subway store.

"I don't like to buy Diet Coke," said Amaury Garcia, 16, who works at a flower shop in Penn Station. "I'll just not buy any sodas if it goes up."

Public health advocates welcomed news of the tax, saying it would help the fight against childhood obesity.

"Raising the price of this liquid candy will put children and teens on a path to a healthier diet," said Elie Ward of the American Academy of Pediatrics of New York State.

The Paterson administration also announced steps yesterday to expand the state's social services net, including a 30% increase in welfare payments over three years starting January 2010, increased money for food banks and expanded access to the state's Family Health Plus program.

Paterson also hopes to make it easier for people to enroll in Medicaid by eliminating face-to-face interviews and fingerprinting requirements.


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To: Gene Eric

Sorry it was a little play on words. Patterson is almost blind.


51 posted on 12/15/2008 10:44:18 AM PST by 70th Division (I love my country but fear my government!)
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To: presidio9

CATTARAUGUS COUNTY, N.Y. (WIVB) - Governor David Paterson could sign a controversial bill into law Monday.
It involves cigarettes sold on Indian reservations.
The Governor is expected to sign a bill that would allow the state to tax Indian sales.

News at 1pm reporting he signed it.


52 posted on 12/15/2008 10:48:29 AM PST by AirForceMom (God Bless the USA)
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To: presidio9
but he will push to restore the sales tax on clothing and footwear

Will plus-sized clothing be taxed higher?
53 posted on 12/15/2008 10:52:33 AM PST by rightwingintelligentsia
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To: Gene Eric

thanks, bfl


54 posted on 12/15/2008 10:53:16 AM PST by neverdem (Xin loi min oi)
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New taxes, cuts in budget plan Paterson sees $404M tax on non-diet soda; health care
TimesUnion | 12/14/08 | JAMES M. ODATO
Posted on 12/14/2008 6:59:50 PM PST by Sammy67
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‘Saturday Night Live’ mocks [New York Democratic] Governor
Paterson’s blindness, past drug use
The New York Daily News | December 14, 2008 | Stephanie Gaskell
Posted on 12/14/2008 2:49:02 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2148733/posts

Paterson in a Blind Rage over ‘SNL’ Skit
NYPost | December 15, 2008 | David K. L I
Posted on 12/15/2008 5:38:33 AM PST by rightwingintelligentsia
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2148943/posts


55 posted on 12/15/2008 10:57:03 AM PST by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/_______Profile finally updated Saturday, December 6, 2008 !!!)
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To: mgc1122
NY needs a stupidity tax ... they could generate trillions from Manhattan alone

I'd be in favor of a tax that targeted Michael Bloomberg.

56 posted on 12/15/2008 10:57:42 AM PST by dashing doofus (Those who are too smart to engage in politics are punished by being governed by those who are dumber)
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Armisen

57 posted on 12/15/2008 11:02:44 AM PST by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/_______Profile finally updated Saturday, December 6, 2008 !!!)
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To: Chet 99
>>Funny... every fatso I see orders diet soda...

"Nutritionist Susan Allen, RD, CCN, at Chicago’s Northwestern Center for Integrative Medicine,
suspects that something additional is going on in many of her patients who have been using aspartame and other artificial sweeteners.
Allen believes that when they consume them, the sweet taste of no-calorie sweeteners triggers their bodies to release insulin,
even though there is no food to feed the cells."
 
 
And insulin plays a significant role in fat storage.
 
Not to mention the fact that some artificial sweeteners break down into such "healthy"[not] substances as formaldehyde when digested.
 
 
Obesity is a cash-cow industry - and sweeteners, both real and artificial, put the moo(la) in that cow.
 
Tyranny of the Appetite.
 
 
 
 
 

58 posted on 12/15/2008 11:08:46 AM PST by LomanBill (A bird flies because the right wing opposes the left.)
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To: Chet 99

Funny... every fatso I see orders diet soda... like it somehow makes up for all the rest of their over eating.


I seriously wonder if there isn’t some causation to go along with that correlation.


59 posted on 12/15/2008 11:19:36 AM PST by Atlas Sneezed (Guns don't kill people. Criminals and the governments that create them kill people.)
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To: Chet 99
Funny... every fatso I see orders diet soda... like it somehow makes up for all the rest of their over eating.

It doesn't help anyway. The body still produces insulin, and drinking diet sodas actually lead to increased hunger and ultimately more eating.

60 posted on 12/15/2008 11:22:15 AM PST by dfwgator (I hate Illinois Marxists)
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To: presidio9

Nanny-stateism is breaking out all over.

I can’t stand it!!!

America is broken and, it seems, no one will try to fix it.


61 posted on 12/15/2008 11:24:10 AM PST by DustyMoment (FloriDUH - proud inventors of pregnant/hanging chads and judicide!!)
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To: presidio9
We smokers warned everyone about this slippery slope.

First, they came for the smokers, but I didn't say anything because I don't smoke.

Then they came for my leaded Pepsi - how dare they!!!!!

62 posted on 12/15/2008 11:32:31 AM PST by 3catsanadog (I plan to give the new President the same respect and dignity the other side gave Bush.)
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To: Gene Eric; presidio9; SunkenCiv
Artificial sweetener tied to weight gain

A role for sweet taste: calorie predictive relations in energy regulation by rats.

63 posted on 12/15/2008 11:33:18 AM PST by neverdem (Xin loi min oi)
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I thought sin taxes were never a good idea? That we aren’t supposed to legislate morality or some such...


64 posted on 12/15/2008 11:33:50 AM PST by NeoConfederate
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To: mgc1122

LOL - but should be duly noted as the absolute friken truth of the matter.


65 posted on 12/15/2008 11:35:02 AM PST by cricket (America's Freedom Rings! Thank You ~ U..S.A. Military~/)
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To: Frank_2001

Well, they could actually play outside and walk to their friends houses.
‘Could’ that is,if: Liberals did not keep releasing convicted sex offenders and then arranging for them to live in your neighborhood. . .


66 posted on 12/15/2008 11:39:23 AM PST by cricket (America's Freedom Rings! Thank You ~ U..S.A. Military~/)
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To: presidio9

Diet sodas are about the most toxic thing we offer human beings to put in their bodies. Neurotoxic carcinogenic poisons getting quickly and efficiently into your bloodstream.


67 posted on 12/15/2008 11:41:00 AM PST by Yaelle
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To: presidio9

Fine governor...institute your stupid tax....I’ll do as I have always done and buy out of state. I buy motor oil (10 cent/quart lub tax), ammo, guns, fireworks, cigarettes, liquor, beer, and a whole host of other taxed items just over the border in PA and a few miles further in Ohio where the taxes are lower.

What a dunderhead. Typical democRAT.


69 posted on 12/15/2008 12:32:20 PM PST by Ouderkirk (Democrats: the party of Slavery, Segregation, Sodomy and Sedition)
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To: presidio9

How about a “Sight Tax” -— Tax anything that can be seen!

Wait a minute.... Governor Paterson might object to that!


70 posted on 12/15/2008 12:40:15 PM PST by TRY ONE (NUKE the unborn gay whales!)
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To: 70th Division

He could stand being liposuctioned with a fire hose.


71 posted on 12/15/2008 12:41:16 PM PST by George Smiley (Palin is the real deal.)
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To: presidio9
What is it with liberals and their love of sin tax? They want the government out of your bedroom, but in every single other aspect of your life.

"Raising the price of this liquid candy will put children and teens on a path to a healthier diet," said Elie Ward of the American Academy of Pediatrics of New York State.

Meh, it's more impressive in the original German.

Paterson also hopes to make it easier for people to enroll in Medicaid by eliminating face-to-face interviews and fingerprinting requirements.

Yes, encourage more fraud! That's the way to save the taxpayers money!

72 posted on 12/15/2008 12:50:17 PM PST by thecabal (We care a lot)
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To: presidio9
Milk, juice, diet soda and bottled water would be exempt from the tax.

Looks like they are just trying to go after Big Soda. How much sugar does most "juice" have in it these days?

73 posted on 12/15/2008 12:51:57 PM PST by thecabal (We care a lot)
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To: CitizenUSA
And to think there are FReepers who think “Bible thumpers” are the greatest threat to our liberty!

I'm sorry, but these guys are just the liberal side of the same coin as the "bible thumpers". I want all busybodies to leave me the hell alone.

74 posted on 12/15/2008 12:55:01 PM PST by thecabal (We care a lot)
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To: presidio9

Government mandated soda pop...

Brings new hilarity to the term “Kool-Aid”.


75 posted on 12/15/2008 12:56:27 PM PST by JenB987
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To: Jersey Republican Biker Chick

Damn! What’s with the sandwich assaults? Won’t a good old fashioned grapefruit do anymore?


76 posted on 12/15/2008 1:04:54 PM PST by Enterprise (No Presidency for illegal aliens from Kenya.)
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To: presidio9
The so-called obesity tax would generate an estimated $404 million a year.

Not if people stop buying soda and/or switch to diet soda.

It's not like you NEED sodas.

But, they'll spend that $404 million like it's a for sure income and that puts the budget into a deeper hole.

77 posted on 12/15/2008 3:05:32 PM PST by hattend (Sarah Palin has run a fishing business, a city, and a state. All Obama has done is run his mouth.)
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To: presidio9

So do I get a reprieve on the tax as diet soda gives me seizures?


78 posted on 12/15/2008 3:26:00 PM PST by EBH ( Directive 10-289)
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To: presidio9

Awww- Is cranky-pants still venting his anger over the SNL skit?


79 posted on 12/15/2008 4:52:34 PM PST by richmwill
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To: presidio9

“Paterson also hopes to make it easier for people to enroll in Medicaid by eliminating face-to-face interviews and fingerprinting requirements.”

Brilliant. The fraud factory gets ready to crank up.


80 posted on 12/15/2008 5:09:13 PM PST by headstamp 2 (Been here before)
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To: presidio9

Saturday Night Live is going to propose an amendment taxing canes, dark glasses, and seeing-eye dogs just to get Paterson going.


81 posted on 12/15/2008 5:17:18 PM PST by x
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To: presidio9

Why not tax all the non-profit corporations in New York? They are fat, lazy, and socialist.


82 posted on 12/15/2008 10:59:01 PM PST by rmlew (The loyal opposition to a regime dedicated to overthrowing the Constitution are accomplices.)
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To: presidio9

Artificial Sweeteners Linked To Weight Gain
ScienceDaily (Feb. 11, 2008) — Want to lose weight? It might help to pour that diet soda down the drain. Researchers have laboratory evidence that the widespread use of no-calorie sweeteners may actually make it harder for people to control their intake and body weight.

Psychologists at Purdue University’s Ingestive Behavior Research Center reported that relative to rats that ate yogurt sweetened with glucose (a simple sugar with 15 calories/teaspoon, the same as table sugar), rats given yogurt sweetened with zero-calorie saccharin later consumed more calories, gained more weight, put on more body fat, and didn’t make up for it by cutting back later, all at levels of statistical significance.

Authors Susan Swithers, PhD, and Terry Davidson, PhD, surmised that by breaking the connection between a sweet sensation and high-calorie food, the use of saccharin changes the body’s ability to regulate intake. That change depends on experience. Problems with self-regulation might explain in part why obesity has risen in parallel with the use of artificial sweeteners. It also might explain why, says Swithers, scientific consensus on human use of artificial sweeteners is inconclusive, with various studies finding evidence of weight loss, weight gain or little effect. Because people may have different experiences with artificial and natural sweeteners, human studies that don’t take into account prior consumption may produce a variety of outcomes.

Three different experiments explored whether saccharin changed lab animals’ ability to regulate their intake, using different assessments —the most obvious being caloric intake, weight gain, and compensating by cutting back.

The experimenters also measured changes in core body temperature, a physiological assessment. Normally when we prepare to eat, the metabolic engine revs up. However, rats that had been trained to respond using saccharin (which broke the link between sweetness and calories), relative to rats trained on glucose, showed a smaller rise in core body temperate after eating a novel, sweet-tasting, high-calorie meal. The authors think this blunted response both led to overeating and made it harder to burn off sweet-tasting calories.

“The data clearly indicate that consuming a food sweetened with no-calorie saccharin can lead to greater body-weight gain and adiposity than would consuming the same food sweetened with a higher-calorie sugar,” the authors wrote.

The authors acknowledge that this outcome may seem counterintuitive and might not come as welcome news to human clinical researchers and health-care practitioners, who have long recommended low- or no-calorie sweeteners. What’s more, the data come from rats, not humans. However, they noted that their findings match emerging evidence that people who drink more diet drinks are at higher risk for obesity and metabolic syndrome, a collection of medical problems such as abdominal fat, high blood pressure and insulin resistance that put people at risk for heart disease and diabetes.

Why would a sugar substitute backfire” Swithers and Davidson wrote that sweet foods provide a “salient orosensory stimulus” that strongly predicts someone is about to take in a lot of calories. Ingestive and digestive reflexes gear up for that intake but when false sweetness isn’t followed by lots of calories, the system gets confused. Thus, people may eat more or expend less energy than they otherwise would.

The good news, Swithers says, is that people can still count calories to regulate intake and body weight. However, she sympathizes with the dieter’s lament that counting calories requires more conscious effort than consuming low-calorie foods.

Swithers adds that based on the lab’s hypothesis, other artificial sweeteners such as aspartame, sucralose and acesulfame K, which also taste sweet but do not predict the delivery of calories, could have similar effects. Finally, although the results are consistent with the idea that humans would show similar effects, human study is required for further demonstration.

Journal article: “A Role for Sweet Taste: Calorie Predictive Relations in Energy Regulation by Rats,” Susan E. Swithers, PhD and Terry L. Davidson, PhD, Purdue University; Behavioral Neuroscience, Vol. 122, No. 1.


83 posted on 12/15/2008 11:54:30 PM PST by doug from upland (8 million views of .HILLARY! UNCENSORED - put some ice on it, witch)
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To: presidio9

Tony Soprano, call your office.

Look to see large scale smuggling of blackmarket “Coke.”

“Bathtub Ginger-Ale” anyone?


84 posted on 12/16/2008 12:01:57 PM PST by sinanju
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To: SunkenCiv

You have to laugh, sometimes at yourself. Libs can’t. Fascism is serious business don’t you know.

LIbs probably laughed their ass off when Sarah Palin was lampooned on SNL. I couldn’t help but laugh despite myself at the rap song with the moose and the goatee wearing Sarah husband rapping with the eskimos.


85 posted on 12/17/2008 5:15:58 PM PST by Eric Blair 2084 (Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms shouldn't be a federal agency...it should be a convenience store.)
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To: FightThePower!

“Aspartame causing cancer” is a far-left conspiracy theory.

Just kidding.

Doesn’t the governor realize that all this “fat tax” will accomplish is creating a black market, declaring it illegal smuggling to be in possession of over a certain amount of sugary foods/beverages (just like tobacco), expanding police-state powers to conduct even more unconstitutional warrantless searches and seizures, and people being SWAT teamed and tasered for being suspected of circumventing the fat tax?

The Obama administration is probably salivating at the prospect of using warrantless searches and seizures and SWAT teams and tasers. The Kostards are against using tasers as long as a Republican calls the shots, but the Kostards are all for tasers when somebody confronts a Democrat. Even if that dude who accused John Kerry of being Skull & Bones and CFR and Bilderberg was a moonbat conspiracy theorist (which he was), the Kostards actually applauded the dude getting tasered. The Kostards are hypocrites.

Democrats kooking out over tasers = kooks
Democrats supporting the use of tasers = dangerous


86 posted on 12/29/2008 10:45:39 AM PST by bigdcaldavis ("Screw Kahlifornia. Gimme Kolinahr." - Me)
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