Justice Kennedy rejects 2 more challenges to Obama

AP via SFGate ^ | 12/17/8

[SmithL]

WASHINGTON, (AP) -- Supreme Court Justice Anthony Kennedy has rejected two more efforts to get the court to consider whether President-elect Barack Obama is eligible to take office.

Kennedy on Wednesday denied without comment an appeal by Philip J. Berg, a Pennsylvania attorney, that claims Obama is either a citizen of Kenya or Indonesia and is ineligible to be president . . .

[EternalVigilance]

Bush and his Administration wants nothing to do with this Obama qualification issue, Cheney wants nothing to do with this Obama issue, the Republican Party wants nothing to do with this, McCain and his former campaign wants nothing to do with it. Palin wants nothing to do with it and has said she is looking forward to working with the future President Obama, our own conservative media wants nothing to do with this, FReepers here on this board want nothing to do with it, the FBI wants nothing to do with it and sees no crime being committed, our own venerated Electoral College system wants nothing to do with it, and the Supreme Court wants nothing to do with it.

And still, the Emperor has no clothes.

[Star Traveler]

You said — “OK then. I’m going to ask the next “next question”. What if the several states start to amend their election law — some will. What if in 4 years Obama cannot run for re-election because of ballot access problems due to his inability to prove N-B citizenship to the satisfaction of 5 or 6 states? Imagine the brouhaha then?”

Now that would be a much more satisfying result, resulting from a “solid process” (no guesswork and no questions) ...

So, let’s get to work on it...

[Star Traveler]

You said — “And still, the Emperor has no clothes.”

All that means is that we still have the Emperor and he’s naked... LOL... That never seems to bother Democrats...

[Las Vegas Ron]

Put state laws on the books that vet candidate or else they cannot be legally placed on the ballot.

The vetting argument is irrelevant and you can argue it all day long.

It does not change the fact he is probably ineligible to hold office.

[missnry]

So far, not one single official body, including a Republican governor and five Republican USSC justices, has agreed with you.

If anyone thinks that these lawsuits are going to stop without 0bama producing a legal birth certificate they are sadly mistaken. There is too much money and a few too many people who believe that the constitutional requirement of "Natural Born Citizen" is worth fighting for. My money is on the patriots of the USA and not the people who just want this to "go away."

[Star Traveler]

You said — “??? I really could give a rip who “wants” to be involved. I don’t either! I just want a simple answer to a simple question. I’m not some lemming who has to toddle along behind Bush or Cheney or anyone else for that matter. But, glad to hear you’ll “get on board” when the elites tell you it’s ok.”

I guess you don’t know about “politics” then — and about “elections”... You see..., if you don’t “get people on board” you don’t win elections and you don’t get anything done.

And that’s exactly what is happening here — you’re getting nothing done, because “no one is on board”. If that’s not obvious to you, then you don’t belong in the political sphere...

[Tallguy]

There is still the problem about the validity of the legality of every Law & Executive Order issued if this should come to pass. But it would appear that every other option is fast closing to us.

[Kevmo]

The Gennifer Flowers tape of Clintoon telling her to lie about their affair, even under oath, using your approach.

Bush and his Administration wanted nothing to do with this issue, VP wanted nothing to do with this issue, the Republican Party wanted nothing to do with this, former campaigns wanted nothing to do with it. Quayle wanted nothing to do with it and said he was looking forward to working with the future President Clintoon, our own conservative media wanted nothing to do with this, FReepers here on this board wanted nothing to do with it, the FBI wanted nothing to do with it and saw no crime being committed, our own venerated Electoral College system wanted nothing to do with it, and the Supreme Court wanted nothing to do with it.

Now, did that make it right? NO! In the end, was Gennifer Flowers proven right, along with Paula Jones, who also got no support from the usual suspects quoted above? YES! Is this issue similar in that it can bring down the oncoming president? YES. So what is your FReeping problem?

[devere]

“Whatever problems exist elsewhere in the world, it still doesn’t explain your paranoid denial”

Are you suggesting that you believe that all of the content of all “AP” stories is factually accurate? Really?

You are entitled to your own opinion, whatever I might happen to think of it. LOL

[Red Steel]

To all you Reactionaries out there. We knew that the stays for the Electoral College would go nowhere because of what happened in the Donofrio and Wrotnowski cases. BUT ALL of the "writ of certiorari" have not been denied. A picture is emerging that the Supreme Court is going to take these cases sometime in the future. AP the propagandists, lied by omission again. See below again:

No. 08A524
Title:	Gail Lightfoot, et al., Applicants v. Debra Bowen, California Secretary of State
Docketed:
Lower Ct:	Supreme Court of California

Case Nos.:

(S168690)

~~~Date~~~	~~~~~~~Proceedings  and  Orders~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Dec 12 2008	Application (08A524) for a stay pending the filing and disposition of a petition for a writ of certiorari, submitted to Justice Kennedy.
Dec 17 2008	Application (08A524) denied by Justice Kennedy.

---

~~Name~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~	~~~~~~~Address~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~	~~Phone~~~
Attorneys for Petitioners:
Orly Taitz	26302 La Paz	(949) 683-5411
Counsel of Record	Mission Viejo, CA  92691
Party name: Gail Lightfoot, et al.

[Star Traveler]

You said — “The vetting argument is irrelevant and you can argue it all day long. It does not change the fact he is probably ineligible to hold office.”

The fact of the matter is that you *do not know* — and that’s a problem of the vetting process. So, the *real problem* is that the vetting process is defective and needs to be corrected.

As I said before — it appears that not very many people are concerned about the “process” — but actually more concerned about knocking out Obama, specifically.

If you’re concerned about the Constitution (and not some individual, solitary candidate) then you’ll be concerned — primarily — about the process...

[battletank]

In this circumstance, politics and winning elections don’t mean a thing. To some of us, the Constitution is what matters here. This isn’t about ANY of the things you are talking about. Principle towers over party, politics OR elections. Sheesh.

[Star Traveler]

You said — “Are you suggesting that you believe that all of the content of all “AP” stories is factually accurate? Really?”

No, what I’m saying is that it’s *me* who is the one responsible for whether I’m going to be paranoid and in denial... not AP...

[TLI]

The SC not picking up a case doesn't mean anything concerning the merits of the case, particularly when it hasn't been heard at any other level. Not one court has bothered to do anything except push these aside with procedurals

Ah, there it is. Exactly correct.

It is like having a mason jar with fresh turd in it. Everyone can see what is in the jar but if no one opens it there is no stink, which would prove the exact nature of the contents. Just make an excuse and pass it on. The SC has no one to pass to so it is denied without comment. They obviously can see the Emperor’s clothes, right?

Round and round the toilet bowl we go…

[B4Ranch]

As the implications of this Supreme Court decision sink in it becomes more and more obvious they think we are mushrooms and should be treated in the same manner.

Mushrooms can be grown and stay healthy by throwing them manure and keeping them in the dark.

[Kevmo]

If a person does not use that argument, then bringing it up to argue against it is a straw argument.

I see you didn’t bring up the argument that zer0bama might be afraid of a misspelling on his longform birth certificate and it would prove embarrassing, so he’s expending 6 figures worth of resources to hide that misspelling. And, of course, that argument is completely bogus, here’s how... see how that works?

So why are you defending the usage of straw argumentation? Isn’t your intellectual position secure enough that you can use legitimate reasoning?

[hoosiermama]

Am I missing something here? Doesn't it say resubmitted? Doesn't that mean it is still active?

Dec 9 2008 Application (08A505) denied by Justice Souter.
Dec 15 2008 Application (08A505) refiled and submitted to Justice Kennedy

[Red Steel]

At The Supreme Court It’s Kennedy’s World.

Kennedy only denied the two injunctions to stops to the Electoral College vote but not the case against Obama.

[savedbygrace]

It’s the President elect’s burden to qualify. It is not our burden to disqualify him/her.

Reference: 20th Amendment, Section 3

[tommix2]

What will happen later when we find out it's true, the Obamination was ineligible to serve We know it's true. They know it's true. He was born in Kenya. No other explanation to his refusal to show the birth certificate. The fix is in . Beginning of the end of America.