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Pat Robertson criticizes Bush, praises Obama
cnnpoliticalticker.com ^ | 12/24/08 | cnn

Posted on 12/24/2008 5:40:40 PM PST by melt

(CNN) – Pat Robertson is "remarkably pleased" with President-elect Barack Obama, the conservative leader told CNN’s Suzanne Malveaux – and believes President Bush’s administration has not dealt with the nation’s economic crisis in a “professional manner.”

“Well, it's hard to assess blame, but I, over the years — I hate to be critical, I mean I am a Republican, and this is the president of the party that I'm a member of — but I think we've had some serious goofs along the way,” he said on the Situation Room Tuesday.

“The Katrina matter was terrible. The rebuilding of Iraq has been terrible. The [handling] of the economy right now has been terrible. It hasn't been handled in what I would consider a professional manner.”

Robertson said history may be kinder to Bush than current opinion. “But I believe I would look at about a C-minus right now if I were grading him,” he said.

The evangelical leader has been a supporter of Bush's presidential campaigns.

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And now a moment of silence--- as Mr Robertson "channels" Reverend Wright...

1 posted on 12/24/2008 5:40:41 PM PST by melt
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To: melt

Dementia is a terrible thing. :-(


2 posted on 12/24/2008 5:42:33 PM PST by doc1019
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To: melt

Good God, he has dementia!

WTF????

He is probably angry that Bush did not give him enough PR time!


3 posted on 12/24/2008 5:42:59 PM PST by Recovering Ex-hippie (FREE BLAGO !!! LET HIM SPEAK TRUTH TO POWER !!!)
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To: doc1019

HA!
Great minds think alike! You beat me to it!


4 posted on 12/24/2008 5:43:37 PM PST by Recovering Ex-hippie (FREE BLAGO !!! LET HIM SPEAK TRUTH TO POWER !!!)
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To: melt

Bush’s fault .


5 posted on 12/24/2008 5:45:33 PM PST by Deetes (God Bless the Troops)
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To: melt

No fool like an old fool....


6 posted on 12/24/2008 5:46:35 PM PST by Bobalu (McCain has been proven to be the rino flop I always thought he was.)
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To: melt

“Judge not, that ye be not judged. For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again.”

So says The Boss, and as we are celebrating His birthday today, perhaps Pat Robertson, as a Christian, may wish to take notice.


7 posted on 12/24/2008 5:47:17 PM PST by DieHard the Hunter (Is mise an ceann-cinnidh. Cha ghéill mi do dhuine. Fàg am bealach.)
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To: melt
I'll bet "most" of Robertson's "best friends are black."

Obama may be a Marxist but he's a BLACK Marxist so that makes him the greatest man to have ever lived. What a jerk!

8 posted on 12/24/2008 5:47:39 PM PST by FlingWingFlyer (For more information on America's "new direction" read The Road to Serfdom. by Friedrich A. Hayek.)
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To: Deetes
Bush’s fault .

A montra that will extend way beyond his term. Everytime Obama screws up it will be “Bushe's fault”. ;-)

9 posted on 12/24/2008 5:49:32 PM PST by doc1019
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To: melt

bush gets a F, for me, but not for the reasons MSM want to use.

- Lack of leadership. Never responses to critics e.g the weapon of mass destruction

- scotus pick almost ended in disaster. Illustrate he takes his base for granted

- no child left behind, expansion of government

- didn’t pursue freddie and fannie strong enough

- $700bil bailout

- abbandon capitalism to save capitalism, wtf? Shows he was not a capitalist but a believer of government. Capitalist believes that in time of trouble, capitalist principles will save the day

- car industry bailout


10 posted on 12/24/2008 5:50:23 PM PST by 4rcane
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To: DieHard the Hunter

Concerning Pat’s latest, I was thinking more along the lines of “Woe to those who call evil good and good evil”.


11 posted on 12/24/2008 5:50:39 PM PST by RichInOC (No! BAD Rich! (What'd I say?))
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To: melt

The proverbial shark is far far behind in Pat’s wake.


12 posted on 12/24/2008 5:52:06 PM PST by Mr Inviso
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To: DieHard the Hunter

So, you think God is going to give him a C- for now, but may view him more favorably in the future, or will he give him positive reviews? Which do you mean to imply?


13 posted on 12/24/2008 5:52:35 PM PST by RegulatorCountry
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To: melt

Pat Robertson is irrelevant. If he didn’t have something critical to say about Bush, no one would be interested in him. Likewise, as an envious, pop preacher, he has to praise the pop president. Let’s see how he loves the Kenyan demigod in a few years, if senility hasn’t wiped out the rest of his sense.


14 posted on 12/24/2008 5:54:34 PM PST by pallis
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To: RichInOC

That too ... ;-)


16 posted on 12/24/2008 5:55:06 PM PST by doc1019
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To: Bobalu

Maybe not. Pat’s comments will piss the gays off more. Remember though this is the guy who backed Rudy.


17 posted on 12/24/2008 5:57:37 PM PST by Reagan79 (Ralph Stanley & The Clinch Mountain Boys)
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To: RegulatorCountry

> So, you think God is going to give him a C- for now, but may view him more favorably in the future, or will he give him positive reviews? Which do you mean to imply?

I mean to imply that Pat Robertson ought not to be wielding judgment on George W Bush unless Pat Robertson wants to be held to the same harsh standard that he appears to be wanting to use.


18 posted on 12/24/2008 5:57:52 PM PST by DieHard the Hunter (Is mise an ceann-cinnidh. Cha ghéill mi do dhuine. Fàg am bealach.)
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To: 4rcane

> Lack of leadership.

Where did you see that demonstrated?

I’d say GWB displayed superb leadership throughout his two terms.


19 posted on 12/24/2008 6:00:34 PM PST by DieHard the Hunter (Is mise an ceann-cinnidh. Cha ghéill mi do dhuine. Fàg am bealach.)
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To: melt

An outgoing President is less useful than an incoming one.


20 posted on 12/24/2008 6:01:01 PM PST by libh8er
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To: melt

Pat who? Old babbling fool.


21 posted on 12/24/2008 6:02:34 PM PST by SolidWood (Sarah Palin - Everything that is Sweetness and Light!)
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To: RichInOC

> Concerning Pat’s latest, I was thinking more along the lines of “Woe to those who call evil good and good evil”.

Well said. More than a few TV Evangelists have fallen painfully and publicly, so he wouldn’t be the first and probably not the last either.


22 posted on 12/24/2008 6:03:22 PM PST by DieHard the Hunter (Is mise an ceann-cinnidh. Cha ghéill mi do dhuine. Fàg am bealach.)
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To: DieHard the Hunter

A grade of C-, with possibly a more favorable view in history? That’s wielding judgment and holding President Bush to a harsh standard? I’ve heard far, far worse from FReepers. Pat Robertson supported him. He has a right to criticize his performance. God is not going to punish Pat Robertson for saying, and saying fairly gently by FR standards, that President Bush has been disappointing in several ways.

As far as being pleased with Obama, I think he’s being too charitable. But, there being no performance to criticize as yet, I suppose he’s trying to be hopeful.


23 posted on 12/24/2008 6:04:43 PM PST by RegulatorCountry
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To: melt

“Psst! Hey Pat, it’s God! Go check the air in your tires!”


24 posted on 12/24/2008 6:07:07 PM PST by Larry Lucido
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To: melt

Avoid the rush! Suck up now!


25 posted on 12/24/2008 6:08:59 PM PST by Arthur McGowan
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To: melt

It’s at times like these that I truly believe that the whole nation is in a state of delusion. How can a man like Pat Robertson in any way give credit to Obama...a man who has voted for infanticide. It must be the grand delusion of which the Bible speaks OR he just wants to be popular like the rest


26 posted on 12/24/2008 6:11:20 PM PST by t2buckeye
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To: melt
“The Katrina matter was terrible.

That was Pat Robertson's own fault. He could have prayed harder and diverted the storm back over Cuba.


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27 posted on 12/24/2008 6:11:58 PM PST by JCG
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To: doc1019

What an embarrassment.


28 posted on 12/24/2008 6:12:04 PM PST by Matchett-PI ("Every free act transcends matter, which is why any form of materialism is anti-liberty" - Gagdad)
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To: Matchett-PI

You would think that the folks running his ministry would keep him back at the home under lock and key. :-(


29 posted on 12/24/2008 6:15:44 PM PST by doc1019
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To: RegulatorCountry

> A grade of C-, with possibly a more favorable view in history? That’s wielding judgment and holding President Bush to a harsh standard?

Yup.

> I’ve heard far, far worse from FReepers.

Not this one.

> Pat Robertson supported him.

With friends like that, who needs enemies?

> He has a right to criticize his performance.

Why? I bet Pat Robertson couldn’t do a better job as POTUS than GWB. Criticism might be fair if it came from Reagan or even Clinton. Or Bush Sr, even.

> God is not going to punish Pat Robertson for saying, and saying fairly gently by FR standards, that President Bush has been disappointing in several ways.

Just as likely God will say to Pat: “Who art thou that judgest another man’s servant? to his own master he standeth or falleth. Yea, he shall be holden up: for God is able to make him stand.”

Bush hasn’t had a perfect eight years. Nobody has. On balance, over eight years, GWB has done a much better job than either AlGore or John Kerry would have. You Yanks have been jolly lucky to have had GWB at the helm, considering your alternatives.

> As far as being pleased with Obama, I think he’s being too charitable. But, there being no performance to criticize as yet, I suppose he’s trying to be hopeful.

I find it difficult that a Christian such as Pat Robertson could have anything positive to say about a muslim that hangs around with terrorists and blasphemers. But then, maybe Pat sees something redeeming that I don’t.


30 posted on 12/24/2008 6:16:39 PM PST by DieHard the Hunter (Is mise an ceann-cinnidh. Cha ghéill mi do dhuine. Fàg am bealach.)
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To: t2buckeye
How can a man like Pat Robertson in any way give credit to Obama...a man who has voted for infanticide.

He praised his cabinet choices. As far as Obama's support of abortion, in all its abhorrent forms, you know good and well where Pat Robertson stands.

This story comes from CNN. Do you think the quotes might have been arranged for the maximum, CNN-approved effect? Naah, CNN would never do that.

31 posted on 12/24/2008 6:18:42 PM PST by RegulatorCountry
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To: melt

I agree that Bush has been a bad president, but it’s a bit gutless for Robertson to come out now with his criticism after the fact. Why not say anything as these events were happening?

I do give Bush credit for leading the way in protecting us from another terrorist attack, but that’s to be EXPECTED of any president. It’s a case of ‘thanks for doing your job’...

With Clinton being so bad, even bringing attacks upon us with his joke of a Justice Department and photo-op foreign policy, it makes any president that simply shows up for work when it comes to national security look great by comparison.


32 posted on 12/24/2008 6:19:32 PM PST by KoRn
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To: t2buckeye
"It’s at times like these that I truly believe that the whole nation is in a state of delusion."

"Just don't fall asleep..."

33 posted on 12/24/2008 6:19:47 PM PST by melt (Someday they'll wish their Jihad... Jihadn't.)
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To: DieHard the Hunter
On balance, over eight years, GWB has done a much better job than either AlGore or John Kerry would have.

No disagreement from me on this point, and I honestly doubt you'd get any from Pat Robertson, either.

34 posted on 12/24/2008 6:25:06 PM PST by RegulatorCountry
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To: DieHard the Hunter
I’d say GWB displayed superb leadership throughout his two terms.

On what? Name something besides the war. And, name something that a conservative would be proud of.

35 posted on 12/24/2008 6:30:00 PM PST by raybbr (It's going to get a lot worse now that the anchor babies are voting!)
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To: melt

Always did think Pat had problems, now I KNOW he has them. What an idiot.


36 posted on 12/24/2008 6:32:29 PM PST by swmobuffalo ("We didn't seek the approval of Code Pink and MoveOn.org before deciding what to do")
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To: RegulatorCountry
"As far as being pleased with Obama, ...."

I was pleased simply that Obama kept that effing shrew Hillary out of the Oval Office.

After that, well, it is Clobbering Time.

I have little else use for this Creep.

37 posted on 12/24/2008 6:35:13 PM PST by Radix (There are 2 kinds of people in this world. Those with loaded guns & those who dig. You dig.)
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To: raybbr

> On what? Name something besides the war. And, name something that a conservative would be proud of.

The war was his key, defining issue, and it is arbitrary and wrong to exclude that when evaluating his overall performance. It should receive most of his performance weighting. All else — quite rightly — is small stuff by way of comparison.

As a war-time president he did a very good job. Much better than FDR, for example.

He would have been an abject failure in 9/11 was able to happen more than once.

As to the “small stuff”, the Illegal Aliens issue would be tops, followed by this current Financial Crisis. He would have scored a near perfect mark had he nailed these bonus points.

Still, I’d give him 85%.


38 posted on 12/24/2008 6:37:08 PM PST by DieHard the Hunter (Is mise an ceann-cinnidh. Cha ghéill mi do dhuine. Fàg am bealach.)
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To: melt

Hmm what’s that gurgling sound... oh yes it’s the sound of Pat Robertson’s relevancy swirling around the drainpipe of history.


39 posted on 12/24/2008 6:37:58 PM PST by Boogieman
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To: DieHard the Hunter
The war was his key, defining issue, and it is arbitrary and wrong to exclude that when evaluating his overall performance. It should receive most of his performance weighting. All else — quite rightly — is small stuff by way of comparison.

Well, that raises a point since all the other stuff, according to you is "small stuff". What would legacy be without the war? Take that away and what would you have had? A president who wants open borders. A president who, apparently picked mostly turncoats for his cabinet. A president who picked a lot of inept people for his cabinet.

As to the “small stuff”, the Illegal Aliens issue would be tops, followed by this current Financial Crisis. He would have scored a near perfect mark had he nailed these bonus points.

The invasion of the United States by over 15 million foreigners is not "small stuff". How would New Zeelanders react to an invasion of millions of foreigners? Would you call it small stuff and let your president have a pass?

40 posted on 12/24/2008 6:57:09 PM PST by raybbr (It's going to get a lot worse now that the anchor babies are voting!)
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To: DieHard the Hunter
How would New Zeelanders...

Ooops! Sorry. New Zealanders...

41 posted on 12/24/2008 6:58:38 PM PST by raybbr (It's going to get a lot worse now that the anchor babies are voting!)
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To: melt
Pat his this "thing" about Hurricanes. Only thing horrible about Katrina was the fact that so many people in the area lived below sea-level. But, they lived there even in Franklin Delano Roosevelt's day and he didn't do a doggone thing about that problem either.

Just what did Pat want "W" to do? Lift the area out of the seabed, or what?

Hey, this is way beyond dementia ~ it's about not comprehending "elevation".

42 posted on 12/24/2008 6:59:24 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: raybbr

He did appoint what appear to be two great supreme court justices. He also reduced income tax rates and signed no new tax increases during his two terms.

He chose Dick Cheney as a VP, Condi Rice as a secretary of state.

He signed a partial birth abortion bill. He has kept Islamic immigration into the US at a level so low that our European friends are complaining about us.

He allowed SDI to go forward.

He lobbied for increased energy independence.

On the other hand...

Still, we will long for the days of George Bush before Obama is done with us.


43 posted on 12/24/2008 7:00:23 PM PST by TFMcGuire (Life is tough. It is even tougher if you are stupid--John Wayne)
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To: TFMcGuire

That’s a pretty short list after eight years. Sorry, the man has been a disaster as president. It’s what we had. I sometimes think a Gore presidency would have solidified GOP control of Congress for years.


44 posted on 12/24/2008 7:02:40 PM PST by raybbr (It's going to get a lot worse now that the anchor babies are voting!)
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To: Matchett-PI; doc1019

Pat has been losing his marbles for the last 8 years by my estimation.


45 posted on 12/24/2008 7:08:49 PM PST by anniegetyourgun
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To: raybbr

> Well, that raises a point since all the other stuff, according to you is “small stuff”. What would legacy be without the war? Take that away and what would you have had? A president who wants open borders. A president who, apparently picked mostly turncoats for his cabinet. A president who picked a lot of inept people for his cabinet.

Granted, but the War gazzumps everything else — as so it should.

For example, if you’ve got liver cancer, you are not going to much mind having an ingrown toenail, a wonky knee and three rotten molars — each of which, without the liver cancer are jolly uncomfortable and reason enough to complain. You will instead focus on getting the liver cancer treated and under control because it gazzumps all other of your illnesses.

> The invasion of the United States by over 15 million foreigners is not “small stuff”. How would New Zeelanders react to an invasion of millions of foreigners? Would you call it small stuff and let your president have a pass?

During peacetime I would call it an intolerable situation and demand it be fixed immediately.

But during war-time, I would demand our Prime Minister focus on winning the war, because we can deport the illegal aliens later. Or we can put them into uniform and send them off to fight the enemy. Or whe can put them to work making war materials. Or we can ignore them because in the context of war they are small stuff.


46 posted on 12/24/2008 7:09:16 PM PST by DieHard the Hunter (Is mise an ceann-cinnidh. Cha ghéill mi do dhuine. Fàg am bealach.)
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To: raybbr

> Ooops! Sorry. New Zealanders...

(grin!) no worries: Abel Tasman was a Dutchman, and for a long time it was spelled as you did: Zeeland.

Nobody seems to know how our Country got its modern spelling.


47 posted on 12/24/2008 7:11:42 PM PST by DieHard the Hunter (Is mise an ceann-cinnidh. Cha ghéill mi do dhuine. Fàg am bealach.)
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To: melt

Yo Pat, suffering from Alzheimer are we?


48 posted on 12/24/2008 7:20:39 PM PST by lilylangtree (Veni, Vidi, Vici)
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To: raybbr

“That’s a pretty short list after eight years. Sorry, the man has been a disaster as president.”

I agree he’s done some pretty egregious things, like having a Mohammedan prayer gathering in the Whitehouse.

Still, which two Republican presidents from the past 30 years would you most trust with you in a foxhole?


49 posted on 12/24/2008 7:26:20 PM PST by TFMcGuire (Life is tough. It is even tougher if you are stupid--John Wayne)
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To: melt
Pat has gone off the wagon somehow. Yes there are issues with Bush, but Katrina? Iraq? It sounds like he has drunk the kool aid.

I rebuke you Satan! Steering that hurricane into those black people, I rebuke you Rove! Murdering those Iraqi freedom fighters, I rebuke you Rumsfeld! Causing that ACORN mess, I rebuke you Bush! Where is the church lady from SNL?

50 posted on 12/24/2008 7:34:17 PM PST by Sender (Never lose your ignorance; you can never regain it!)
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