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Senate opposition fiercer than Burris thinks
Chicago Sun Times ^ | January 2, 2009 | Lynn Sweet

Posted on 01/02/2009 9:31:46 PM PST by BAW

Roland Burris does not want to be in the face of the senators whose ranks he hopes to join, I am told. Yet Burris, appointed by the scandalized Gov. Blagojevich to replace President-elect Barack Obama, is expected here Monday. Burris' mere presence to try to claim the seat will, of course, be a spectacle.

He won't get into the chamber because the Senate Democratic leadership doesn't want anyone sent by Blagojevich, accused of trying to sell Obama's seat for a plum job or campaign cash.

Here's what I've learned New Years Day:

I think Burris is underestimating how hard the Senate Democratic leaders are resisting his appointment. No one doubts that Burris is eligible to serve. No one is going to challenge Blagojevich's power to make the appointment. But they won't make it easy.

The new Congress will be sworn in Tuesday. Burris will arrive with no floor privileges because Illinois Secretary of State Jesse White will not certify his appointment. The Senate will likely refer the matter to the Rules Committee, where it will be handled as s-l-o-w-l-y as possible. For example, the rules panel will require a very, very, very complete investigation to make sure the appointment is stain-free.

While the Senate Democrats are slow-walking, they want the Illinois House to fast-walk the Blagojevich impeachment proceedings, and then have a swift state Senate trial, conviction, and installation of Lt. Gov. Pat Quinn as governor. Quinn then can make the pick, preferably a Democrat with an excellent chance of winning either a special election or the 2010 contest.

Given Burris' string of statewide defeats for senator and governor, he does not fit that profile.

Burris has unrealistic hopes of getting assistance from Sen. Dick Durbin, the No. 2 Senate leader.

(Excerpt) Read more at suntimes.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: Illinois
KEYWORDS: blago; blagojevich; bleepgate; burris; obama; obamatransitionfile
Durbin called Burris twice to discuss the situation, but Burris never got the messages because he hasn't got his cell phone thing down.

Roland Burris goes to Washington on Monday. Should be a fun day for all of us here on FR.

1 posted on 01/02/2009 9:31:47 PM PST by BAW
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To: BAW
Roland Burris goes to Washington on Monday

Hmmmm...I wonder if Robert K.K.K. Byrd (RAT-WV) is going to take his robe and hood out of retirement for the occasion.

2 posted on 01/02/2009 9:49:48 PM PST by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all. -- Texas Eagle)
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To: BAW

I’m a bit mystified by all of this.

Since when do the ‘rats insist that their own be “untainted” to enter the ranks??!?

Somehting’s fishy about this whole thing.


3 posted on 01/02/2009 9:53:17 PM PST by VigilantAmerican (We will not waver, we will not tire; we will not falter, we will not fail)
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To: BAW
I'm going crazy !!!

Everything about this Blagojevich, Burris thing should be targetting zero.

HE'S the one that the senate should refuse to seat, investigate, make very, very, very sure of his qualifications!!!!

4 posted on 01/02/2009 9:53:35 PM PST by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof ... but they're true.)
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To: VigilantAmerican

If he is seated and runs for reelection the Republicans will win, that is why they do not want him. He’s weak, and predators destroy the weak in their pack.


5 posted on 01/02/2009 9:57:30 PM PST by flying Elvis ("In...War, the errors which proceed from a spirit of benevolence are the worst" Clausewitz.)
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To: flying Elvis

Why will he be seen as weak—just because he was defeated in the past, and has the association with Blogo on him? Seems far fetched to me...the whole point for the commies is to have a black negro in the senate, a black to replace Hussein, and so it seems to me he’d get reelected..heck, he’s already got rock-star status as a result of all this, so my guess is that the Dems are up to something with all this, some kind of subterfuge, distraction, sleight-of-scandal...


6 posted on 01/02/2009 10:02:51 PM PST by VigilantAmerican (We will not waver, we will not tire; we will not falter, we will not fail)
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To: BAW

There would be nothing quite as fun as having Blago impeached, and the new governor making a new appointment.

Imagine the precedent if subsequent governors can replace legally chosen senators.

Since Blago made his pick, the seat is no longer vacant.

BTW, imagine what would happen if Pawlenty declared the Minnesota senate seat vacant (it will be on Monday since they won’t have decided the election), and he was to appoint Coleman to the seat. No way the democrats would seat him.


7 posted on 01/02/2009 10:10:41 PM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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To: VigilantAmerican
Somehting’s fishy about this whole thing.

The democrat party in this state stinks to high heaven, so does everything it touches and everything it does. Elect one of them to national office, and the funk gets loose and spreads around the world. 'Fishy' is too charitable.

8 posted on 01/02/2009 10:14:24 PM PST by Seven plus One
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To: VigilantAmerican
Somehting’s fishy about this whole thing.

The democrat party in this state stinks to high heaven, so does everything it touches and everything it does. Elect one of them to national office, and the funk gets loose and spreads around the world. 'Fishy' is too charitable.

9 posted on 01/02/2009 10:21:29 PM PST by Seven plus One
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To: BAW

Should be good for popcorn and beer sales. This whole fiasco is God’s way of making us even for the last election (of O).


10 posted on 01/02/2009 10:33:45 PM PST by pankot
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To: CharlesWayneCT

I’m 200 miles east of MN, but I still can’t believe half the people in MN were STUPID enough to vote for Frankenstein. Even the deer are fleeing that state and coming to WI.


11 posted on 01/02/2009 10:37:06 PM PST by pankot
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To: BAW

...I REALLY hope Blag goes with him. It should be a fun day....


12 posted on 01/02/2009 10:51:23 PM PST by ALASKA (I feel more like I do today than I did yesterday.....)
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To: BAW; All

I was watching a DC-based political show (Inside Washington) and they were saying that an appointment is an appointment.

Meaning as long as Burris wants to hold on, he can - a new guv cannot rescind a previous guv’s appointments.

Supposedly, the Illinois SOS has no leg to stand on by not certifying - it is a legal appointment as long as Burris is qualified (and he is). Burris can ask the Illinois Supreme Court for a Writ of Mandamus to compel the Illinois SOS to certify ... if he doesn’t, it goes to SCOTUS (who presumably will issue the Writ).

As for the U.S. Senate, if they do not seat Burris, Burris can file at SCOTUS - citing Powell v. McCormack as precedent. Under the Stare Decisis doctrine, SCOTUS will presumably order Burris seated.

As for going SLOWLY - the Senate Rules Committee only has 3 qualifications to assess:

1. Is the person thirty years old?
2. Has the person been a citizen of the U.S. for nine years?
3. Is the person an inhabitant of the State?

Pretty straight forward ... if the Senate Rules Committee dawdles, Burris can file a Writ of Habeas Corpus with SCOTUS.

You know, the Illinois legislature wanted to have its cake and eat it too on this ...

They had the opportunity after Nov. 4th to enact legislation that would have allowed for a special election and Blago said he would have signed it ...

But the legislature was scared that a Republican might win - so they took a pass ...

Now, they want to impeach him (and may very well do it), but the appointment stands ...

So, to the legislature, like my Dad used to say, “Sometimes you just have to eat the sh*t sandwich”!


13 posted on 01/02/2009 11:33:53 PM PST by Lmo56
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To: Texas Eagle
Hmmmm...I wonder if Robert K.K.K. Byrd (RAT-WV) is going to take his robe and hood out of retirement for the occasion.

When did it go out of retirement? I thought it was always available for special occasions such as this.

14 posted on 01/02/2009 11:50:59 PM PST by taxesareforever (Quick justice for the senseless killing of Marine Lance Cpl. Robert Crutchfield.)
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To: BAW

Pass the popcorn!


15 posted on 01/03/2009 12:37:18 AM PST by ZirconEncrustedTweezers (Some people like cupcakes better. I, for one, care less for them.)
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To: BAW
Anything that throws Democrats at each other to rip each other apart is a wonderful thing to behold.

The people's business will be taking a back seat to monkey business for a long time to come.

16 posted on 01/03/2009 2:04:33 AM PST by NoControllingLegalAuthority
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To: BAW

No one doubts that Burris is eligible to serve. No one is going to challenge Blagojevich's power to make the appointment. But they won't make it easy.
Wow, that says it all right there in 3 sentences.

Translated into more constitutional terms, it says: "We won't block him on qualifications, we won't block him on elections and returns, We'll just block him because we want to. The constitution and the laws don't matter."

Pass the popcorn.

17 posted on 01/03/2009 2:30:48 AM PST by cc2k
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To: NoControllingLegalAuthority
Anything that throws Democrats at each other to rip each other apart is a wonderful thing to behold.

You betcha!

I think my favorite Governors are Jindal, Palin, and Sanford (in no particular order), followed closely by Blago. LOL

18 posted on 01/03/2009 2:53:24 AM PST by PalmettoMason ("an empty limousine pulled up in front of the White House, and Barack Obama got out")
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To: BAW

I am not even in Chicago or neccessarily a student of the machine....but it is beginning to seem blatantly obviously that the fix must be in for Baby Mandigan.

Reid lobbied for her and he and The TURBAN are throwing their weight around to nullify Burris.

and Blago is not playing the game.


19 posted on 01/03/2009 3:01:50 AM PST by rod1
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To: pankot

“I’m 200 miles east of MN, but I still can’t believe half the people in MN were STUPID enough to vote for Frankenstein.”

Minnesota is a very socialist-loving state. The judges there are right out of the Politburo.


20 posted on 01/03/2009 3:34:07 AM PST by ought-six ( Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule.)
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To: cc2k
I think they are planning to drag out the seating of Burris so that he is officially not a senator when they hopefully (from their perspective) get rid of Blago.

From the Seattle Times this AM:

Senate officials involved in the tangle of legal and logistical planning said Friday that a Democrat will object to Burris being sworn with the rest of his class and will propose that his credentials be reviewed by the Rules Committee. That would give Burris the status of a senator-elect

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Senate Democrats are slow-walking Burris' appointment because they hope Blagojevich will be removed from office before the Rules Committee completes its investigation.

21 posted on 01/03/2009 3:37:36 AM PST by eeman
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To: rod1

“I am not even in Chicago or neccessarily a student of the machine....but it is beginning to seem blatantly obviously that the fix must be in for Baby Mandigan.”

She’s another nitwit who got her position based solely on her daddy’s name. She was elected Attorney General with absolutely no legal experience at all. She has never tried a case in her life.


22 posted on 01/03/2009 3:37:45 AM PST by ought-six ( Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule.)
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To: BAW

Burris should have expected that after buying a discount Senate seat at the fire sale.


23 posted on 01/03/2009 3:40:53 AM PST by Hillarys Gate Cult (The man who said "there's no such thing as a stupid question" has never talked to Helen Thomas.)
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To: VigilantAmerican

“Since when do the ‘rats insist that their own be “untainted” to enter the ranks??!?”

Untainted is not the word, that does not matte to them. “Unelectable” is their fear. He could be an ax murderer and be acceptable to democrats if he could win elections.


24 posted on 01/03/2009 4:19:02 AM PST by billhilly
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To: BAW
Quinn then can make the pick, preferably a Democrat with an excellent chance of winning either a special election or the 2010 contest.

Burris was appointed according to IL state law. There is nothing about the process or about him that disqualifies him for the seat. Isn't the Sec. of State breaking the law by not certifying Burris?

And if Burris is entirely legal, how can Quinn, when he gets in office, appoint someone else if the seat was already lawfully filled?

Unless Reid and Durbin acquiesce and allow Burris to be seated, this is going to end up in court and/or with race riots.

With the revelation that Reid pressured Blago against appointing JJ, Jr. or Davis, I expect as early as today that prominent black leaders are going to start going public with their dissatisfaction. Phone calls are no doubt already flying between black leaders and Reid/Durbin.

Blago's going to win this round.

25 posted on 01/03/2009 6:44:55 AM PST by randita
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To: BAW

Paging Bull Connor. Please bring your fire hoses and attack dogs to repel Burris from the $inate Chambers!

26 posted on 01/03/2009 7:42:46 AM PST by Grampa Dave (Does Zer0 have any friends, who are not criminals or foreign or domestic terrorists or both?)
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To: flying Elvis

Even with that explanation (with which I agree), I really don’t understand the donks in this instance. Illinois has had Republican governors and various critters in the past. They can be easily marginalized while in office and smeared during the next election, paving the way for a donk re-take of the seat in the next election. The donks have a majority in the Senate and they have a group of liberal Republicans they can count on, as well, so there is no threat to their majority or their power.

So, instead of taking the high road of a special election, making it seem as though they are fair and democratic, they are willing to engage in high theater against one of their own who is also one of their cherished special interest voting blocs. They stand a great chance of a very public exposure resulting in exactly what they want to avoid: a special election. Given that most donk voting blocs will always vote for them, no matter what, why are they suddenly afraid of the possible election of one Republican Senator who will simply be taking over a seat until the next time it is up for rotation in a General Election? They have made it clear that they _want_ republicans around so they can attach all blame for any failures to the GOP.

The donks own the State of Illinois. They control the vote counting, the entire process and the majority of votes. No matter who is appointed, they can run someone with deep hooks at the expiration of this term, use their patented fraud and smear machine and take the seat back without breaking a sweat or the facade they could have raised of being fair and equitable. They would look as though they had the maturity to govern while fabricating yet another Republican patsy to take blame.

If they are so afraid of a single Republican win at this stage of their coup, when it would make little difference in the larger scheme, and are also seemingly hell-bent on making themselves look like petulant tyrants, if not bigots, what does that portend for 2010? Do they know something we don’t? And even if they know they might lose the majority in 18 months (which I doubt), they now have such a stranglehold on the country and on government that I cannot see how it could be possible or how they could fail to keep it with the same tactics they have always used.

Is it just their inner control-freak showing itself because of Blago being caught out and his then total defiance of them? Is this some politically suicidal temper tantrum over making sure they are obeyed by everyone, at every turn, no matter whether it is important or simply petty? If that is indeed the motivation, then we are very, very lucky, because there is no way this doesn’t get huge press coverage and become some sort of cause celebre in Illinois and among black voters.


27 posted on 01/03/2009 7:48:09 AM PST by reformedliberal
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To: pankot

Only 40+%. 3rd-party is what made it close. If they did a runoff with just Coleman and Franken he wouldn’t come close. Coleman was just liberal enough that conservatives thought they could throw their vote away on another candidate.


28 posted on 01/03/2009 8:35:11 PM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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