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Yellowstone Earthquakes: Supervolcano Update
U.S. News & World Report ^ | January 02, 2009 | James Pethokoukis

Posted on 01/02/2009 9:32:36 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

A Yellowstone earthquake update:

1) The rumbling continues, including 3.5, 3.0 and 3.2 quakes just today

2) Here is some more Jake Lowenstern (the Yellowstone volcano scientist) analysis (via TIME):

Jake Lowenstern, Ph.D.,YVO's chief scientist, who also is part of the USGS Volcano Hazards Team, told TIME that it doesn't appear a supervolcano event is imminent. "We don't think the amount of magma exists that would create one of these large eruptions of the past," he said. "It is still possible to have a volcanic eruption comparable to other volcanoes. But we would expect to see more and larger quakes, deformation and precursory explosions out of the lake. We don't believe that anything strange is happening right now." Last summer, YVO installed new instrumentation in boreholes 500 to 600 feet deep to better detect ground deformation. Says Lowenstern: "We have a lot more ability to look at all the data now.

3) Here is a passage on the Yellowstone supervolcano from "A Short History of Nearly Everything" by Bill Bryson. He interviews a Yellowstone geologist, Paul Doss. I don't find it reassuring:

I asked him what caused Yellowstone to blow when it did.

"Don't know. Nobody knows. Volcanoes are strange things. We really don't understand them at all. Vesuvius, in Italy, was active for three hundred years until an eruption in 1944 and then it just stopped. It's been silent ever since. Some volcanologists think that it is recharging in a big way, which is a little worrying because two million people live on or around it. But nobody knows."

"And how much warning would you get if Yellowstone was going to go?" He shrugged. "Nobody was around the last time it blew, so nobody knows what the warning signs are. Probably you would have swarms of earthquakes and some surface uplift and possibly some changes in the patterns of behavior of the geysers and steam vents, but nobody really knows."

"So it could just blow without warning?"

He nodded thoughtfully. The trouble, he explained, is that nearly all the things that would constitute warning signs already exist in some measure at Yellowstone. "Earthquakes are generally a precursor of volcanic eruptions, but the park already has lots of earthquakes-1,260 of them last year. Most of them are too small to be felt, but they are earthquakes nonetheless."

A change in the pattern of geyser eruptions might also be taken as a clue, he said, but these too vary unpredictably. Once the most famous geyser in the park was Excelsior Geyser. It used to erupt regularly and spectacularly to heights of three hundred feet, but in 1888 it just stopped. Then in 1985 it erupted again, though only to a height of eighty feet. Steamboat Geyser is the biggest geyser in the world when it blows, shooting water four hundred feet into the air, but the intervals between its eruptions have ranged from as little as four days to almost fifty years. "If it blew today and again next week, that wouldn't tell us anything at all about what it might do the following week or the week after or twenty years from now," Doss says. "The whole park is so volatile that it's essentially impossible to draw conclusions from almost anything that happens."

Evacuating Yellowstone would never be easy. The park gets some three million visitors a year, mostly in the three peak months of summer. The park's roads are comparatively few and they are kept intentionally narrow, partly to slow traffic, partly to preserve an air of picturesqueness, and partly because of topographical constraints. At the height of summer, it can easily take half a day to cross the park and hours to get anywhere within it. "Whenever people see animals, they just stop, wherever they are," Doss says. "We get bear jams. We get bison jams. We get wolf jams."

In the autumn of 2000, representatives from the U.S. Geological Survey and National Park Service, along with some academics, met and formed something called the Yellowstone Volcanic Observatory. Four such bodies were in existence already-in Hawaii, California, Alaska, and Washington-but oddly none in the largest volcanic zone in the world. The YVO is not actually a thing, but more an idea-an agreement to coordinate efforts at studying and analyzing the park's diverse geology. One of their first tasks, Doss told me, was to draw up an "earthquake and volcano hazards plan"-a plan of action in the event of a crisis.

"There isn't one already?" I said.

"No. Afraid not. But there will be soon."

"Isn't that just a little tardy?"

He smiled. "Well, let's just say that it's not any too soon."


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; Government; News/Current Events; US: Wyoming
KEYWORDS: caldera; catastrophism; earthquakes; extinction; geology; kissyouassgoodbye; science; supervolcano; yellowstone
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To: glock rocks

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101 posted on 01/03/2009 12:30:53 AM PST by Bradís Gramma ( PRAY! Pray for Israel. Pray for the US.)
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To: Brad's Gramma
"Good night now. Call me if things....heat up, OK?"

Okay.

102 posted on 01/03/2009 12:31:09 AM PST by blackbart.223 (I live in Northern Nevada. Reid doesn't represent me.)
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To: glock rocks

I hate you.

Good night. :)


103 posted on 01/03/2009 12:31:16 AM PST by Bradís Gramma ( PRAY! Pray for Israel. Pray for the US.)
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To: Brad's Gramma; tubebender

Um....

Say G’Nite, Grammie.


104 posted on 01/03/2009 12:31:35 AM PST by glock rocks (Well, it sounded like a good idea at the time... I'm preparing for the mud flow.)
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To: Brad's Gramma

Better set your alarm a touch earlier.


105 posted on 01/03/2009 12:32:29 AM PST by glock rocks (Well, it sounded like a good idea at the time... I'm preparing for the mud flow.)
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To: glock rocks

Alarm?


106 posted on 01/03/2009 12:32:51 AM PST by Bradís Gramma ( PRAY! Pray for Israel. Pray for the US.)
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To: glock rocks
Tork made me post that. To any fat chicks who are being liposuctioned to power SUV’s...

As Larry the Cable Guy would say...”Lord, I apologize....”.


Don't apologize. This “liposuctioning fat chicks to power SUV’s” thing has made fat chicks more popular than they have ever been. They're praying that gas prices go back above $4.00.
107 posted on 01/03/2009 12:33:26 AM PST by Cheburashka (Liberalism: a tale told by an idiot, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing.)
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To: Cobra64
Gore will find a way to fund cooling the magma in the earths core.
Nothing to see here.
108 posted on 01/03/2009 12:33:42 AM PST by MaxMax (I'll welcome death when God calls me. Until then, the fight is on)
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To: Cheburashka

Ya gotta love capitalism.


109 posted on 01/03/2009 12:34:50 AM PST by glock rocks (Well, it sounded like a good idea at the time... I'm preparing for the mud flow.)
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To: glock rocks
Speaking of alarms.

Good NIGHT now.

110 posted on 01/03/2009 12:35:33 AM PST by Bradís Gramma ( PRAY! Pray for Israel. Pray for the US.)
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To: Brad's Gramma
Alarm?

Nevermind... it's sorta like a wake up call, but you have to set it for yourself. Never mind. Have one of your servants wake you a touch earlier.

111 posted on 01/03/2009 12:36:33 AM PST by glock rocks (Well, it sounded like a good idea at the time... I'm preparing for the mud flow.)
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To: glock rocks

*sigh*

*melodramatic sigh*

I let the servants have the day off tomorrow...


112 posted on 01/03/2009 12:37:30 AM PST by Bradís Gramma ( PRAY! Pray for Israel. Pray for the US.)
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To: Brad's Gramma

Nonmagnanamous is something I’ve never accused you of being.


113 posted on 01/03/2009 12:40:17 AM PST by glock rocks (Well, it sounded like a good idea at the time... I'm preparing for the mud flow.)
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To: glock rocks

Well fer Petes Sake carry on.

I read about the doc who was fueling his rigs with human fat waste.

I thought he had a great Idea.
The med ethics board not so impressed.

I think we should all pressure the FDA to pass the okie doke regulation pro using human fat for fuel. Great idea.


114 posted on 01/03/2009 12:41:16 AM PST by Global2010 (God Will see us through. Persevere)
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To: Global2010
I think we should all pressure the FDA to pass the okie doke regulation pro using human fat for fuel.

In my own small way, I'm already accomplishing that... it's called mountain bike :o)

115 posted on 01/03/2009 1:07:56 AM PST by glock rocks (Well, it sounded like a good idea at the time... I'm preparing for the mud flow.)
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To: Dallas59; dalereed

I went there in 2007. I only saw a small portion of the park, but in that portion, I saw all sorts of geological things, including the tail end of an Old Faithful eruption, the latter being seen through some trees.


116 posted on 01/03/2009 1:24:12 AM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (This election gave the drunks the keys to the liquor cabinet!)
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To: Outland

Wait for it.........


117 posted on 01/03/2009 1:38:38 AM PST by TigersEye (I threw my shoe at Mohammed and hit Allah in the butt.)
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To: Mike-o-Matic
"If the Yellowstone megavolcano does its thing, as powerfully as it believed that it is capable of doing, then it's pretty much over for 99% of mankind within a year or two, due to darkness and starvation."

Thus, accomplishing in only a couple of years what Islam has been attempting for centuries. Wouldn't that tick off ol' Muhammed?

118 posted on 01/03/2009 1:45:46 AM PST by WireAndWood (Nachos: breakfast of champions.)
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To: TigersEye
"Wait for it........."

I'd have to wait an awfully long time. There won't be any "supervolcano" blowing it's top in Yellowstone anytime soon.
119 posted on 01/03/2009 1:46:58 AM PST by Outland (Not giving up! The USA is my country, but BO is not my president.)
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To: glock rocks
"tofu has never been proven to me to be food..."

I'm with you on the tofu.

I am a sound-oriented individual: I love music, love to play with sounds and language etc. To me the way something sounds is many times more important than the way it looks. when I hear the word "tofu" it sounds like something one would find in a dirty sock.

None for me, thanks.

120 posted on 01/03/2009 2:03:57 AM PST by WireAndWood (Nachos: breakfast of champions.)
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To: WireAndWood

Activity’s been looking rather quiet for a while now. Either the wind’s died down, or Mother Nature’s taking a breather. Or possibly both :)


121 posted on 01/03/2009 2:28:02 AM PST by mewzilla (In politics the middle way is none at all. John Adams)
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To: blackbart.223

Swine and pigs have over a dozen parasites within them, such as tapeworms, flukes, worms, and trichinae. There is no safe temperature at which pork can be cooked to ensure that all these parasites, their cysts,and eggs will be killed.


122 posted on 01/03/2009 2:36:45 AM PST by cowdog77 ("Are there any brave men left in Washington, or are they all cowards?")
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Yellowstone National Park is a national treasure. I had the joy of working there during my college summers in 1961 and 1962. That was followed by a summer working in Grand Teton National Park in 1963. Talk about a blessed youth. Both are beautiful in their different ways. Here are a few of my shots from my visit this past August. It was so much the better, as I traveled with my son, to show him some of my favorite views and places, like the Cowboy Bar, in Jackson and the Jackson Lake Lodge, in the park.

This is my favorite picture of the trip, Hayden Valley, between Yellowstone Lake and Canyon, with the little black dots on the right being the American buffalo

This is one of the most breath taking view in the world, the 309 foot Lower Falls of the Yellowstone, in the Grand Canyon of the Yellowstone

A close up view of the same falls

This Western Tananger flew in an landed about 6 feet from me. I almost had a attach getting my camera ready for the shot. It was like it was looking for food. What a rare treat!

Sun setting on the Tetons from String Lake. What a joy.

Here's a shot of the falls on the "inside" Firehole River road. Great swimming, too.

I sure hope you have enjoyed my pictures. Visit and support the National Park system. Perhaps, next summer, Yellowstone Lake will be warmer than the usual 55 degrees, turning it into a classic hot spaw, with a view.

123 posted on 01/03/2009 2:40:11 AM PST by jws3sticks (Hillary can take a very long walk on a very short pier, anytime, and the sooner the better!)
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To: jws3sticks

Really nice!


124 posted on 01/03/2009 2:58:21 AM PST by andyandval
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To: jws3sticks

Excellent pictures...thanks for posting them :)


125 posted on 01/03/2009 3:15:58 AM PST by PennsylvaniaMom (PA is a banana republic without the great weather to actually grow bananas.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
but nobody really knows

The first true words I've heard from the scientific community in decades......

126 posted on 01/03/2009 3:17:06 AM PST by Hot Tabasco (Today is just a little more special than yesterday.)
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To: blackbart.223

“what is the worst thing you ever tasted? “

An overripe persimmon.


127 posted on 01/03/2009 3:18:39 AM PST by eCSMaster
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To: blackbart.223
"Lima beans are one of the nastiest foods on God's green earth."

Nah, lima beans are OK. Brussels sprouts are another matter.

128 posted on 01/03/2009 4:32:49 AM PST by Wonder Warthog ( The Hog of Steel)
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To: jws3sticks

Beautiful pictures! Thanks so much for sharing! You’re really talented with that camera.


129 posted on 01/03/2009 5:00:31 AM PST by November Gale (Does anyone know where the love of God goes when the waves turn the minutes to hours?)
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To: November Gale
Nov Gale and PA Mom,

Thanks for the kind comments. I love my cameras. Put the Tetons in front of just about any camera and you end up with great pictures. Granted timing, aim and cropping helps.

Don't get me started with my Grand Kids. LOL

Here's a teaser:

Mine are the red shirt in the foreground and the stripes in the background.

130 posted on 01/03/2009 5:38:17 AM PST by jws3sticks (Hillary can take a very long walk on a very short pier, anytime, and the sooner the better!)
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To: pankot

So is Charleston, SC.


131 posted on 01/03/2009 5:59:55 AM PST by ops33 (Senior Master Sergeant, USAF (Retired))
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To: glock rocks; Brad's Gramma; Pete-R-Bilt

Which reminds me...Thanks for sending the large box of Okra because we never know when a Volcano will need to be appeased.

that should end the thread hijackers and get us back on the subject at hand...


132 posted on 01/03/2009 6:24:55 AM PST by tubebender (Looks like I lost another tag line to Bo ...)
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To: Wonder Warthog
"Nah, lima beans are OK. Brussels sprouts are another matter."

I'll pass on both.

133 posted on 01/03/2009 10:19:30 AM PST by blackbart.223 (I live in Northern Nevada. Reid doesn't represent me.)
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To: blackbart.223
Not upset. Just sayin'.
134 posted on 01/03/2009 10:25:38 AM PST by Othniel (Kirk: Don't trust them. Don't believe them. Spock: They're dying. Kirk: LET THEM DIE.)
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To: glock rocks

Cool.

I am not up to risking the road traffic and my agility to bike with KVs Wheelchair system (size of a small car in itself) rigged up on the back. : )

For non KV runs a horse for around our lil outback community but someone would complain about the horse crap.

I can walk on decent days down to check mail or the lil boat hoist store for milk/eggs.

Not to many decent days in our frigid rain forrest here on the coast.

What the Hey!


135 posted on 01/03/2009 12:58:38 PM PST by Global2010 (God Will see us through. Persevere)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
One of their first tasks, Doss told me, was to draw up an "earthquake and volcano hazards plan"-a plan of action in the event of a crisis. "There isn't one already?" I said. "No. Afraid not. But there will be soon."

I assume that's for a small eruption - a large one would require 5 or 6 states to be evacuated...

136 posted on 01/03/2009 2:10:51 PM PST by GOPJ (GM's market value is a third of Bed, Bath and Beyond. Why is GM "too big to fail"? Steyn)
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To: tubebender
Cascadia Subduction Zone

You've got a map, right?

137 posted on 01/03/2009 2:11:55 PM PST by GOPJ (GM's market value is a third of Bed, Bath and Beyond. Why is GM "too big to fail"? Steyn)
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To: GOPJ

As I understand it, a large eruption would probably be a world-killer.

Yellowstone Caldera Resources

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2157979/posts


138 posted on 01/03/2009 2:13:35 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (Barack Obama: In Error and arrogant -- he's errogant!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
As I understand it, a large eruption would probably be a world-killer.

People-killer, yes. World-killer, no. The planet would recover.

139 posted on 01/03/2009 2:15:04 PM PST by dfwgator (I hate Illinois Marxists)
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To: blackbart.223; Wonder Warthog

I actually like both, especially Brussel Sprouts (with bacon and butter...)


140 posted on 01/03/2009 2:16:36 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (Barack Obama: In Error and arrogant -- he's errogant!)
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To: dfwgator

I meant us, not the planet, of course.


141 posted on 01/03/2009 2:17:18 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (Barack Obama: In Error and arrogant -- he's errogant!)
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To: jws3sticks

Beautiful pictures - thanks for sharing.


142 posted on 01/03/2009 2:21:03 PM PST by GOPJ (GM's market value is a third of Bed, Bath and Beyond. Why is GM "too big to fail"? Steyn)
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To: jws3sticks

Of course! What are grandmas for? Taking lots of pictures of grandkids, and spoiling them of course. Cute picture.


143 posted on 01/03/2009 2:27:57 PM PST by November Gale (Does anyone know where the love of God goes when the waves turn the minutes to hours?)
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To: November Gale
November Gale,

Thanks again for your kind words,

Poppy (8-}

144 posted on 01/03/2009 2:31:40 PM PST by jws3sticks (Hillary can take a very long walk on a very short pier, anytime, and the sooner the better!)
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To: GOPJ

Why would you bother to ask me that? Were you addressing it to yourself.


145 posted on 01/03/2009 2:44:30 PM PST by tubebender (Looks like I lost another tag line to Bo ...)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
"I actually like both, especially Brussel Sprouts (with bacon and butter...)"

To each his own.

146 posted on 01/03/2009 3:33:59 PM PST by blackbart.223 (I live in Northern Nevada. Reid doesn't represent me.)
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To: gogov
Bush’s fault.

Just so it's not the San Andreas fault

All fault lines throughout the world are actually connected to one single all encompassing Bush's Fault.

147 posted on 01/03/2009 7:12:20 PM PST by mountn man (The pleasure you get from life, is equal to the attitude you put into it.)
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To: jws3sticks

I enjoyed your pics!


148 posted on 01/03/2009 7:19:06 PM PST by lonestar
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To: glock rocks

“cilantro is a product of hell, delivered directly to us to determine our righteousness.”

Could it be cilantro is how God tests our gag reflex control?


149 posted on 01/03/2009 7:37:27 PM PST by GladesGuru (In a society predicated upon freedom, it is essential to examine principles, When you walk around wi)
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To: blackbart.223

The Vietnamese brew a sauce of rotten fish called noc mam - is is enough to gag a gull - and those things will eat anything along the shore.


150 posted on 01/03/2009 7:40:27 PM PST by GladesGuru (In a society predicated upon freedom, it is essential to examine principles, When you walk around wi)
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