Skip to comments.Importance of the newly located Dunham/Obama Sr divorce decree in proving ineligibility
Posted on 01/03/2009 7:01:24 AM PST by dascallie
Last night Ed Hale presented the (heretofore, unseen) divorce decree on Plains Radio between Obama's mother and Obama Sr ( her FIRST marriage).
The key bonus in this was the revelation of the specific version of her name in the decree, Stanley Ann D. Obama.
Using this precise name variation ( the abbreviated, initial "D" --instead of 'Dunham', was the cipher that broke open the search), they are claiming to have now located a POE (Port of Entry ) document that Obama's mother provided when she returned to the US with her son--soon after Obama's birth, (allegedly in Kenya).
The POE allegedly includes Obama's birth information/certificate ( British Kenya) as required for entry. Stay tuned for events...see other comments below. -------------------------------------------------- DesertVet Newbie
Posts: 11 Re: Obama-Dunham 1964 DIVORCE DECREE Forthcoming « Reply #53 on: January 02, 2009, 09:39:16 PM » ***********Stanley Ann D. Obama*************
No secret I've been highly skeptical on this whole ordeal. I'm now beginning to think this could very well lead the way to the smoking gun. Until this document she has only been known as "Dunham", no where in public records has Obama's Mothers name read as it does on this divorce decree. I believe the "D" being abreviated has allowed them to locate her records. This has led them to a "port of entry" birth certificate for Barack Obama. She submitted this POE certificate when she came back to the US, and the fact that there is a POE Certificate...proves that he was indeed born out of the country.
This would mean that Obama has never been through Immigration & Naturalization Services in his life, he became a citizen of Indonesia, and never applied for a U.S. passport. If this is the case, then he's not even a citizen, let alone a natural born citizen.
I'm not 100% certain on my assertion of above take on this document issue, but I think it is HIGHLY plausible. I'm still not ready to dance in the streets by any means yet (Yeah, I'm a tough sell). But I am quite intriguied at the moment. Couldn't say that earlier today.
Jim, Please show the evidence you state as fact. From what I have read Pakistan was under martial law and travel there was difficult for non citizens. If you have other information then please let us know.
Shouldn't this be simple with a FOIA? But it is not. I have not heard this myself but it makes sense. Those in charge assumed Obama have been vetted then why not? Obama had used false documentation for so many years no one questioned him.
So we need to ask the right people how passports are done for elected officials.
Like it matters, right? Everyone is so in the tank for Obama he could find anything that would take down most politicians and the socialists would say it is a blip in the scheme of things. Makes me......nevermind!
The articles I have read in NYT are from Obama, his team or his books. If we were to rely on those interviews then we just need to believe Obama is what he says he is. Those are his words or the words he wants us to believe. Sorry, none of his words add up and that is why we are searching.
NYT needs a bailout from Obama ASAP. They delivered his election and they will print what he says.
I still am curious. Thank you! I would love for Obama to answer it all and come clean so many of us could sleep better at night. When money backs you I guess truth is not important.
He could not have obtained a U.S. Passport without documentation showing that he was a U.S. Citizen.
And more importantly, when he entered the U.S. Senate in 2005, the Senate Majority Leader Bill Frist (R) and the Senate President Dick Cheney would not have seated him without proper credentials which would include proof that he was a U.S. citizen.
When in 2005 did Barry 0 present his citizenship papers to Dick Cheney and Bill Frist? Please specify the date, the papers presented by Barry, and cite the source for your facts. Thanks in advance.
Miranda, why is it the you and the other people that claim that it was against the law for Americans to travel to Pakistan in 1981 can never cite the name of the law that prevented such travel?
And after you answer that question, why is it that the Reagan Administration sold F-16's to Pakistan in 1981?
Do you really believe that Reagan would sell F-16's to a country where Americans could not travel?
In 2005 Bill Frist was the Majority Leader of the U.S. Senate and Cheney was the President of the Senate.
If Frist and Cheney were doing their jobs, they reviewed the credentials of all the Senators elected in 2004.
I think the important idea here is that it was against *Pakistani* “law” (and in particular, against the wishes of Pakistani authorities) for regular Americans to travel to Pakistan at the time, not that it was necessarily against US State Dept rules for Aericans to do so. Hope this helps.
No, sorry, I said evidence. You have continually posted for facts. NYT communist family articles is not evidence. You take a article out of NYT as factual but you refuse to accept that any information you have read is true about Obama? You believe everything you read in main stream media do you?
There must not have been a ban you say? So you are spreading more assumption like earlier when you said Obama's mothers birth place is not in question? But you can't prove where she was born, can you? You can't prove that travel to Pakistan was illegal either? For that matter travel to Cuba is banned but still Americans go all the time, right? All the same to you?
So in your mind if Obama traveled there it was legitimate? So where is his 30 day VISA? Wouldn't it be easy to just place it for all to see so they don't wonder about dual citizenship? By the way Obama has admitted dual citizenship on his website. Where are the other travellers others mentioned who went there at the time? Why is it only someone saying, my brother went there and had a great time partying..no name...or my cousin.
You have just posted more propaganda that you came to this website to disapprove of. Nothing else.
I would suggest that if you want to show evidence you write that letter and post it her for everyone to read when they say, yes, travel was possible without a passport during that time. Until then, let the arguments against that theory continue.
What is your source for the statement that it was against Pakistani law for U.S. citizens to enter?
WARNING: Non-Muslims are strictly prohibited from entering the holy city of Mecca. The penalty is deportation from the country. Documentation will be checked upon entry and anyone not showing proof of being Muslim will be denied entry. As a solitary exception, the Mecca bus terminal (outside city limits) is open to all.
The RSAF maintains the third largest fleet of F-15’s after the USAF and the JASDF.
I hate using Wiki for a source, But, it was quick.
Under what rules of Senate procedure is it their job to do so, and what citizenship papers would Obama have presented as part of that process, should such process actually exist?
In 1981, about two years after the Soviet Union invaded Afghanistan, the United States provided General Zia-ul-Haq, Pakistan's military ruler, with $3.2 billion in loans and grants. The idea was to elicit Pakistan's help in ousting the Soviets from Afghanistan. Included in this package, at Pakistan's insistence, were 40 F-16 aircraft.
As a Catholic I cannot go to Mecca but I can and have gone to Saudi Arabia.
I have been there as well.
CERTIFICATE OF ELECTION FOR SIXYEAR TERM
To the President of the Senate of the United States:
This is to certify that on the __ day of __, 19_, A__ B__ was duly chosen by the qualified electors of the State of __ a Senator from said State to represent said State in the Senate of the United States for the term of six years, beginning on the 3d day of January, 19__.
Did you break the law when you entered The Kingdom?
No, but I traveled on military orders and was restricted to base. Same with every other US mil member except the Base Commander and staff.
We oilfield folk have a bit more freedom in the Kingdom but we have to play by their rules. As far as places to go for work, Saudi is not one of my favorites.
There is no way an honest man, a man who respects the Country and it’s constitution, a man who respects oaths, a man who respects the wisdom of prior generations, a man who cares at all for the future generations could TAKE the oath of office when his qualifications remain uninspected and disputed. An honest man would see this as a dereliction of duty and would require all of this be clarified before he took office. An honest man would bring his eligibity issues into the light for honest, upfront and open debate.
So says the one confused at noon.
You are very wrong ! To be a “natural born citizen” it requires you have “both” parents be US citizens at the time of birth. And only a ‘natural-born’ citizen is eligible to hold the office of President...you all need to brush up on your knowledge of the constitution.
i suggest, www.americangrandjury.org and reading the constituton which you can google on your own..if you’re serious about remaining free in this country.