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Analysis: Hamas desperate for lull, but wants to show some type of 'victory'
The Jerusalem Post ^ | Jan 6, 2009 | KHALED ABU TOAMEH

Posted on 01/05/2009 8:43:00 PM PST by Uncle Miltie

As the IDF operation in the Gaza Strip entered its 10th day, Hamas has begun sending conflicting messages regarding its intentions.

These contradictory messages, Palestinian political analysts said, reflected the state of confusion in Hamas and raised questions as to who was calling the shots in the Gaza Strip.

While some Hamas leaders have been openly signaling their readiness to accept a new cease-fire, others are still calling for pursuing the fight against Israel "until victory."

What is clear is that Hamas is now desperate for a lull in the fighting. But it is also eager to score some kind of a "military victory" before a cease-fire is reached.

Hamas can't accept a new cease-fire without having proved to the Arab and Muslim masses that it was capable of making Israel pay a heavy price for its military offensive.

Hamas is fighting for its survival and its leaders know that their collapse would constitute a severe blow not only to the movement, but also to its patrons in Teheran and Damascus.

"It's hard to tell who's in charge in the Gaza Strip these days," said a Ramallah-based analyst. "Hamas's political leaders have disappeared after throwing away their mobile phones. No one knows exactly what Hamas wants."

The analyst said that according to his sources, the embattled Hamas leaders in the Gaza Strip were no longer in direct contact with their colleagues in Syria.

"The political leaderships of Hamas in the Gaza Strip and Damascus have been disconnected from each other," he added. "I doubt if there's any coordination between them."

He pointed out that the decision to dispatch two senior Hamas envoys to Cairo for talks about a cease-fire came as a surprise to the Hamas leadership in the Gaza Strip. The two envoys are based in Damascus and report directly to Khaled Mashaal, he said.

Another Ramallah-based political analyst said that the political leadership of Hamas has given the movement's armed wing, Izaddin al-Kassam, full freedom to take any measures it deems necessary to prevent the collapse of the Hamas regime.

"The gunmen on the streets are now in charge," he noted. "This is a dangerous situation, because they don't report to anyone at the top. This has created a state of anarchy and confusion."

Palestinian journalists in the Gaza Strip said on Monday that the general feeling was that Hamas does not exist any longer as a governing body. "All their government institutions have been destroyed," said a Gaza City reporter. "The Hamas leaders are now behaving like al-Qaida's Osama bin Laden and [his deputy] Ayman Zawahiri. Their only public appearances are through recorded messages aired on Arab TV stations."

On Monday, senior Hamas official Mahmoud Zahar made his first public appearance in a previously recorded message broadcast on a Hamas TV station. Zahar's appearance was reminiscent of similar appearances made by al-Qaida terror leaders.

Until two weeks ago, Zahar, Prime Minister Ismail Haniyeh and Interior Minister Said Siam - the three top Hamas leaders - were still sleeping in their homes and moving around freely and fearlessly. Until then, they were also frequent guests on various talk shows in the Arab media - especially Al-Jazeera, which is being accused by some Palestinians as serving as a mouthpiece for Hamas.

Sources close to Hamas said that in light of the new reality, where the Hamas leaders in the Gaza Strip have virtually vanished, the armed wing was receiving its instructions from the movement's leadership in Syria.

The sources said that Mashaal, the Damascus-based leader of Hamas, was in direct contact with commanders of Izzadin Kassam in different parts of the Gaza Strip. "There's a vacuum in the Hamas leadership in the Gaza Strip," they said. "The Hamas leaders in Damascus are now in charge. There's no one to talk to in the Gaza Strip."


TOPICS: Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Germany; Israel; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: damascus; egypt; gaza; germany; hamas; idf; iran; islam; israel; jihad; lebanon; marginalizinghamas; syria

1 posted on 01/05/2009 8:43:02 PM PST by Uncle Miltie
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To: Uncle Miltie

In other news, Merkel backs Israel unconditionally, but the German Left calls for more Genocide of Jews:

http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1230733155804&pagename=JPost%2FJPArticle%2FShowFull


2 posted on 01/05/2009 8:47:56 PM PST by Uncle Miltie (Most Animals protect their babies. Palestinians kill their babies.)
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To: Uncle Miltie
Analysis: Hamas desperate for lull, but wants to show some type of 'victory'

Let's see...how long ago was it that Hamas was aggressively shouting to the world that the truce with Israel was over? Three weeks or so? What a sweet turnaround...

3 posted on 01/05/2009 8:49:09 PM PST by snarks_when_bored
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To: Uncle Miltie

If the Israelis’ accept any “truce” with Hamas...that’s a Hamas viceroy.


4 posted on 01/05/2009 8:49:17 PM PST by Dallas59 (Not My President)
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To: Dallas59

Stupid spell check...”Victory”


5 posted on 01/05/2009 8:49:42 PM PST by Dallas59 (Not My President)
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To: Uncle Miltie
"The gunmen on the streets are now in charge," he noted. "This is a dangerous situation, because they don't report to anyone at the top. This has created a state of anarchy and confusion."

Someone actually said this...

6 posted on 01/05/2009 8:51:00 PM PST by blam
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To: blam

Surround and crush them... its the only way to stop them.


7 posted on 01/05/2009 8:59:16 PM PST by Mmogamer (<This space for lease>)
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To: Uncle Miltie
Analysis: Hamas desperate for lull, but wants to show some type of 'victory'

In other words, the cowardly terrorists do not want to face justice: extermination.

8 posted on 01/05/2009 9:02:31 PM PST by XR7
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9 posted on 01/05/2009 9:06:37 PM PST by XR7
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To: Dallas59

LOL - I knew what you meant. I recently referred to peach in the Middle East. Naturally, another FReeper pounced.


10 posted on 01/05/2009 9:10:55 PM PST by Enterprise (No Presidency for illegal aliens from Kenya.)
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To: Enterprise

Naturally. Because we all knew that you meant puce ... a color used by the Islamist group, Homos. But no-one took them seriously.


11 posted on 01/05/2009 9:23:44 PM PST by sofaman (Moses dragged us through the desert for 40 years to the one place in the ME with no oil - Golda Meir)
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To: sofaman

Ha! - Give us puce, puce in our time!


12 posted on 01/05/2009 9:27:29 PM PST by Enterprise (No Presidency for illegal aliens from Kenya.)
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To: sofaman

I hear reports that hamas has 18,000 armed members. Where are they all?


13 posted on 01/05/2009 9:30:09 PM PST by rightwingjew
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To: Uncle Miltie

Hamas said before Israel invaded that “it would be a cemetary” for the Israelis.

So, like towelhead tunneling rocket scientist dewds, like when does that happen?


14 posted on 01/05/2009 9:31:43 PM PST by webschooner
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To: Uncle Miltie
"Hamas desperate for lull, but wants to show some type of 'victory'."

B.S. If Hamas is on the ropes, Israel must pursue total victory, meaning total defeat for Hamas. Then the moderates in Gaza can finally have a chance of getting their voices heard without being summarily executed.

15 posted on 01/05/2009 9:48:15 PM PST by tom h
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To: rightwingjew
Such heroic fighters, aren't they? Just like Haniyeh who talks tough for the cameras, surrounded by bodyguards ... in Damascus.

The Hamas hierarchy, in hiding, trembling in their skidmark riddled undies, exhorting their brainwashed minions, extolling the glory of the shahid, rewarded in paradise with 72 virginians.

Yes, martyrdom! For thee, but not for me. And all of them, not worth one Jewish life.

16 posted on 01/05/2009 9:56:54 PM PST by sofaman (Moses dragged us through the desert for 40 years to the one place in the ME with no oil - Golda Meir)
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To: Uncle Miltie; Zevonismymuse
Democrat leaning Israel supporting Jews unhappy with Bush, and thinking of McCain but terrified of Palin as a conservative Christian voted for Obama in droves(77% of Jews). Israel is the spike that breaks the democrat party apart. Where is the know-it-all Biden on this conflict? Is he banned from Meet the Press by Obama ,after years of being a guest and monthly second guessing Bush for not solving the conflict. Democrats need our support on both sides:

Logon DU and tell our liberal peace-loving Bush hating brothers and sisters that you are outraged at the terrible unprovoked atrocities by Israel

Democratic Underground :Moderate American Jews Need to Take Back the “Israel Lobby”

Contact DEMOCRATS FOR ISRAEL LOS ANGELES and tell them you are concerned that the head of our party (Obama) has not shown his outrage and demanded the immediate halting of criminal terrorist activities by Hamas on Isreal(after all look at the name) :

DEMOCRATS FOR ISRAEL LOS ANGELES:

you canemail DFI at: dfi_la@hotmail.com

17 posted on 01/05/2009 10:22:02 PM PST by sickoflibs (GWB : "Give me a 700B blank check to save the UAW until Obama takes office")
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To: Uncle Miltie

Israel, please send us to our moon god.

18 posted on 01/05/2009 11:12:58 PM PST by M. Espinola (Freedom is not 'free'.)
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To: Uncle Miltie

Following are facts and figures released by the IDF and related to Israel’s decision to launch “Operation Cast Lead”:
9,400+ Rockets and mortars fired from Gaza since 2003.
3,200+ Rockets and mortars fired from Gaza in 2008.
6,500+ Rockets and mortars fired from Gaza since Israel withdrew from Gaza in 2005.
543+ Rockets and mortars fired during the ceasefire from June 19 to Dec. 19, 2008.
28 Deaths caused by rockets and mortars fired from Gaza into Israel since 2001.
1,000+ People in Israel injured from rockets and mortars fired from Gaza since 2001.


19 posted on 01/05/2009 11:16:59 PM PST by cowdog77 ("Are there any brave men left in Washington, or are they all cowards?")
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To: M. Espinola
Israel, please send us to our moon god.


20 posted on 01/05/2009 11:23:40 PM PST by XR7
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To: cowdog77; NormsRevenge; Grampa Dave; SierraWasp; BOBTHENAILER; Marine_Uncle; blam; SunkenCiv; ...

Now those numbers are ...well...that seems like a lot for some victims....


21 posted on 01/05/2009 11:35:49 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach (No Burkas for my Grandaughters!)
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To: Uncle Miltie

/mark


22 posted on 01/06/2009 12:07:54 AM PST by happinesswithoutpeace (You are receiving this broadcast as a dream)
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To: Enterprise
peach in the Middle East...for our time.
23 posted on 01/06/2009 12:54:53 AM PST by carumba (The secret of life is honesty and fair dealing. If you can fake that, you've got it made. Groucho)
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To: cowdog77; Uncle Miltie; rightwingjew
Another interesting statistics from JPost:

Throughout Monday, the IDF encountered significant resistance in the northern Gaza Strip, killing close to 100 Palestinians in a series of close-range gun battles. Another 80 were captured and sent for interrogation. One Palestinian was taken to Soroka Hospital in Beersheba under heavy security.

Hmmm..... I thought they were going to fight to the end, embracing death like it was their 72 virgins.

Lends more and more credence to article by Khaled Abu Toameh (one of the best reporters from the MidEast) in JPost that Hamas is desperate for a lull in the fighting.

Nevertheless, the rocket barrage on Israel is continuing....

24 posted on 01/06/2009 1:11:06 AM PST by ScaniaBoy (Part of the Right Wing Research & Attack Machine)
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To: Dallas59
"If the Israelis’ accept any “truce” with Hamas."

Israeli PM Olmert has said that any cease fire requires the disarmament of Hamas. "Don't look for one soon." - Olmert's words.

yitbos

25 posted on 01/06/2009 1:44:32 AM PST by bruinbirdman ("Those who control language control minds.")
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To: Uncle Miltie

Gee. I thought Hamas said Gaza would become a “graveyard” for the IDF.

Maybe Hamas can call on the man they supported for the US presidency: B. Hussein Obama.

Keep up the good work, Israel. Show the world how terrorists should be eliminated.


26 posted on 01/06/2009 1:59:39 AM PST by Recovering_Democrat
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To: Uncle Miltie

“The analyst said that according to his sources, the embattled Hamas leaders... “

Is he talking the dead ones or those about to die?

So help me Israel better not stop now. I say its time for the genocide of all Hamas members!!!

Give’em a taste of their own medicine.
JB


27 posted on 01/06/2009 4:47:54 AM PST by thatjoeguy (Just my thoughts)
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To: Uncle Miltie
The "H" in Hamas is stands for:

bin HIDING


28 posted on 01/06/2009 4:50:04 AM PST by Diogenesis
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conflicting messages... reflected the state of confusion in Hamas and raised questions as to who was calling the shots in the Gaza Strip. While some Hamas leaders have been openly signaling their readiness to accept a new cease-fire, others are still calling for pursuing the fight against Israel "until victory." ...Hamas can't accept a new cease-fire without having proved to the Arab and Muslim masses that it was capable of making Israel pay a heavy price for its military offensive... its leaders know that their collapse would constitute a severe blow not only to the movement, but also to its patrons in Teheran and Damascus... "Hamas's political leaders have disappeared after throwing away their mobile phones. No one knows exactly what Hamas wants." ...embattled Hamas leaders in the Gaza Strip were no longer in direct contact with their colleagues in Syria... the decision to dispatch two senior Hamas envoys to Cairo for talks about a cease-fire came as a surprise to the Hamas leadership in the Gaza Strip. The two envoys are based in Damascus and report directly to Khaled Mashaal... the political leadership of Hamas has given the movement's armed wing, Izaddin al-Kassam, full freedom to take any measures it deems necessary to prevent the collapse of the Hamas regime... the general feeling was that Hamas does not exist any longer as a governing body... the Hamas leaders in the Gaza Strip have virtually vanished, the armed wing was receiving its instructions from the movement's leadership in Syria... Mashaal, the Damascus-based leader of Hamas, was in direct contact with commanders of Izzadin Kassam in different parts of the Gaza Strip.

29 posted on 01/06/2009 4:33:11 PM PST by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/___________First 2009 Profile update Tuesday, January 6, 2009)
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To: Uncle Miltie

That is interesting, isn’t it — “In contrast, the foreign policy spokesman of the FDP, MP Werner Hoyer, told Spiegel Online that ‘raising the question of guilt’ is the wrong approach to the peace process. The Left Party MP and its foreign policy expert, Wolfgang Gehrcke, demanded that Merkel and SPD Foreign Minister Frank-Walter Steinmeier publicly criticize Israel.”

Raising the question of guilt is the wrong approach! The right approach is to blame Israel!!! ;’)


30 posted on 01/06/2009 4:35:53 PM PST by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/___________First 2009 Profile update Tuesday, January 6, 2009)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Hamas is cowering in the hidden rubble, wondering if they will be alive for any given time. Hopefully the Israeli ground assault will continue for some weeks. Finding and killing as many Hamas as possible at this point should remain Israeli policy IMHO. They have nothing to lose. The world is against them all the time any way. So just do what must be done.


31 posted on 01/06/2009 5:58:59 PM PST by Marine_Uncle (Duncan Hunter was our best choice.)
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To: sofaman

And all of them, not worth one Jewish life.
++++++++++++++++
well said, thank you :)


32 posted on 01/06/2009 6:33:13 PM PST by 99Floyd (Silence = Acceptance)
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