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Obama going to pot?
One News Now ^ | 1/6/2009 | James L. Lambert

Posted on 01/10/2009 1:17:51 PM PST by IbJensen

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To: IbJensen

If it really helps “pro-pot voters” to forget to vote during each future election, then I’m for it.


61 posted on 01/10/2009 2:52:43 PM PST by johnthebaptistmoore (Conservatives obey the rules. Leftists cheat. Who probably has the political advantage?)
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To: gusopol3
“will employers be able to hire/fire on the basis of + urine drug screen in your idealized world of decriminalization ? “

You're probably confusing decriminalization with legalization. Decriminalizing marijuana will not make it legal. Even if it was legalized though, that doesn't mean employers won't test for it. Some employers will not allow cigarette smokers to work for them, even if they smoke only when off work and not on company property. These polices have been tested in courts and the employers have won. If they can do this to people who smoke cigarettes, a legal product, they can do it to people who smoke pot even if pot is legalized.

“Because of the persistence of the substance, it makes casual use and employment mutually exclusive.”

Nonsense. Most pot smokers are employed. Look at the government statistics on this. The overwhelming majority are full time employed. Only a small percentage are unemployed. Plenty of casual pot smokers smoke a little weed in the evenings and/or on weekends and do a great job at work. You're just way off base here.

62 posted on 01/10/2009 2:56:21 PM PST by SmallGovRepub
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To: SmallGovRepub
Plenty of casual pot smokers smoke a little weed in the evenings and/or on weekends and do a great job at work

If I'm "way off base here," why do you need to send out a strawman to make your argument? That wasn't my point, and the rest of your post makes it clear that you knew that.

63 posted on 01/10/2009 3:06:02 PM PST by gusopol3
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To: LeoWindhorse
"re-visit the total banning of all alcoholic beverages and spirits ."

If someone tries to take my Budweiser away, I swear I'll exercise my 2nd Amendment rights.

Leave my booze alone. And my cheesburgers. And cigars. And chemically and genetically enhanced vegetables of all kinds. There.

64 posted on 01/10/2009 3:10:22 PM PST by Big_Monkey
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To: jonrick46
“I suspect that Zero will eventually decriminalize meth and crack. Once pot is old hat, people will want new toys. And Zero knows all about it.”

Decriminalizing pot at the federal level won't make it legal. It really wouldn't make much difference at all since most simple possession arrests are not made by federal officers under federal law. Decriminalization just means taking the threat of jail away. Several states have decriminalized pot. They just fine people for it. In most states that have decriminalized it is no longer a criminal offense, not a misdemeanor or felony anymore. It's a “violation” or an “infraction,” and people are just ticketed for it like they would be for a speeding violation. It is not legal though. And the bottom line is that per capita marijuana use in states that have decriminalized it is about the same as it is in states that haven't decriminalized it. In the grand scheme of things it really doesn't make any difference in the number of users whether possession of a small amount is a “violation” or “civil infraction” or a misdemeanor crime.

65 posted on 01/10/2009 3:11:53 PM PST by SmallGovRepub
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To: IbJensen

Personally, I will be glad to see the demise of the dead raccoon under the front porch of the federal marijuana laws. Too dang expensive, too dang punitive, and not just unconstitutional, but erosive to the rest of our legal system.

Let’s be done with it.


66 posted on 01/10/2009 3:18:19 PM PST by yefragetuwrabrumuy
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To: gusopol3
If I misunderstood you, I apologize. You said that, “Because of the persistence of the substance, it makes casual use and employment mutually exclusive.” I took that to mean that you didn't think even casual pot smokers could work. Perhaps you were referring to the length of time THC metabolites will show up in the urine of someone who smokes pot? I'm guessing now that that's what you meant. If so, I would point out that we have millions of pot smokers in this country and most of the are full time employed. I guess most of them work at jobs where they don't drug test their employees, or they work at places that for the most part only do pre-employemnt testing and they quit long enough to get a job and then start again after they do their preemployment drug screen.
67 posted on 01/10/2009 3:31:19 PM PST by SmallGovRepub
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To: IbJensen

the president-elect will give strong consideration to decriminalizing marijuana by the end of his tenure in office.

Bout time


68 posted on 01/10/2009 3:45:07 PM PST by DoingTheFrenchMistake
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To: IbJensen

Didn’t the US sign some treaty that addressed this? But O don’t follow no stinking treaties. Legalize “blow” too dufus.


69 posted on 01/10/2009 3:45:09 PM PST by Mike Darancette (Mail your shoes to CAIR)
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To: SmallGovRepub

agreed


70 posted on 01/10/2009 3:57:31 PM PST by gusopol3
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To: humblegunner

I’m going to get blasted but here goes...pot should be decriminalized...the whole war on drugs was ill advised, didn’t work and has seriously undermined our rights. Obviously, There are many non-violent offenders who use pot in jail right now...stupid waste of money.


71 posted on 01/10/2009 5:15:03 PM PST by bronxboy
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To: Ken H
Where does the Constitution delegate to the feds the power to limit firearms use and possession and require instant background checks for firearms purchases?

In fact, the Constitution specifically forbids infringement of the right to keep and bear arms. Has that stopped government from top to bottom from infringing upon that right?

72 posted on 01/10/2009 5:17:19 PM PST by NoControllingLegalAuthority
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To: FFranco

I have to tell you, it’s this guy’s business and he can do as he pleases, but I hate, hate the fact that people are always trying to run your life...a few beers on the weekend does not effect a job...what ever happened to privacy? If I found out such a policy existed, I would not do business with this owner. Wow, it’s like prohibition all over again...if it’s fun they don’t want you to do it...and no I don’t smoke pot or drink much for that matter. I just think when I’m not working I should be able to and it’s no ones business.


73 posted on 01/10/2009 5:23:29 PM PST by bronxboy
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To: IbJensen

I guess I’m one of those who hopes he does. I’ll never use it, but I sure hate having so much money spent trying to stop something that can’t be stopped.


74 posted on 01/10/2009 5:27:51 PM PST by yazoo
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To: IbJensen

Some of PEBO’s jobs may be growing, transporting, and selling pot.

I hadn’t thought of that!!


75 posted on 01/10/2009 7:08:59 PM PST by jch10
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To: IbJensen; pandoraou812

I’ll support it. Cannabis should have never been criminalized.


76 posted on 01/10/2009 9:23:40 PM PST by TigersEye (This is the age of the death of reason.)
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To: TigersEye; IbJensen

I doubt he will do ....Far too much money is gotten from busting people, rehabs etc . Then there are the fines & the money lawyers make....I just can’t see 0 doing it. He may talk about it but when it comes down to it I doubt it ever happens anytime soon.


77 posted on 01/10/2009 9:37:09 PM PST by pandoraou812 (Don't play leapfrog with a unicorn! ...........^............)
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To: LeoWindhorse; FreeRadical

Major kudos for both of your posts. Liberty is not for wimps.


78 posted on 01/10/2009 9:40:30 PM PST by TigersEye (This is the age of the death of reason.)
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To: yazoo
If something as inherently evil as abortion can be legalized by the liberal pansies then surely pot growing and smoking can be legalized.

And why not legalize marriage between same sex couples, or perhaps a man and his animal?

Speeding is one law I can do without.

79 posted on 01/11/2009 5:48:45 AM PST by IbJensen (My reading of history convinces me that most bad government results from too much government.)
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To: IbJensen

.......Speeding is one law I can do without....

Disregard it


80 posted on 01/11/2009 5:49:37 AM PST by bert (K.E. N.P. +12 . The original point of America was not to be Europe)
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