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Safety group: Ban cell phones while driving
http://www.suntimes.com/news/nation/1372463,w-cell-phone-driving-ban011109.article ^ | 01/11/09 | AO

Posted on 01/11/2009 3:52:07 PM PST by TornadoAlley3

WASHINGTON — A national safety group is advocating a total ban on cell phone use while driving, saying the practice is clearly dangerous and leads to fatalities.

States should ban drivers from using hand-held and hands-free cell phones, and businesses should prohibit employees from using cell phones while driving on the job, the National Safety Council says in a new campaign.

(Excerpt) Read more at suntimes.com ...


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1 posted on 01/11/2009 3:52:09 PM PST by TornadoAlley3
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going after talk radio?:)


2 posted on 01/11/2009 3:54:25 PM PST by TornadoAlley3 (Obama is everything Oklahoma is not.)
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To: TornadoAlley3
I think that for safety sake, all distractions while driving should be banned. No reading maps or newspapers. No eating or drinking while driving. No radios allowed in cars. No passengers allowed to talk to the driver: To ensure safety, the passengers need to be in the trunk.

And no pretty girls allowed out on the streets.

Mark

3 posted on 01/11/2009 3:55:21 PM PST by MarkL (Do I really look like a guy with a plan?)
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To: TornadoAlley3; All

I really hate Safety Groups.....


4 posted on 01/11/2009 3:55:38 PM PST by KevinDavis (Thomas Jefferson: A little rebellion now and then is a good thing)
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To: TornadoAlley3

They’re banned up here in Ontario....not that people obey or anything.


5 posted on 01/11/2009 3:55:49 PM PST by JudyinCanada
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To: MarkL; All

For the Childrun...........


6 posted on 01/11/2009 3:56:18 PM PST by KevinDavis (Thomas Jefferson: A little rebellion now and then is a good thing)
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To: MarkL

I would love to see them try and ban radios in cars...that would be worth the price of admission.


7 posted on 01/11/2009 3:56:18 PM PST by willyd (My Driver's License is under Obama's Birth Certificate officer.)
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To: MarkL

What about babies in car seats. I mean anyone with a crying baby that they can not reach because they have to be in the back seat knows thats a real distraction. Oh, wait then there is the five years old who starts yelling I have to go to the bathroom - now. (As a side note they always have to go - now).


8 posted on 01/11/2009 3:58:33 PM PST by svcw (Great selection of gift baskets: http://baskettastic.com/)
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To: JudyinCanada
Funny thing...I fly the Canadian flag on FR, and Old Glory up here at home! God Bless those who "get it", those who fight for freedom and stand up to terrorists. I will never forget September 11th. In my heart I became "American" that day.

Bless you and Thank you Judy. Hope all is well with you.

FMCDH(BITS)

9 posted on 01/11/2009 3:58:41 PM PST by nothingnew (I fear for my Republic due to marxist influence in our government. Open eyes/see)
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To: JudyinCanada

I’ve been hit twice by people on phones totally not paying attention. I sympathize to a degree.


10 posted on 01/11/2009 3:59:06 PM PST by Reagan79 (Ralph Stanley & The Clinch Mountain Boys)
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To: TornadoAlley3
I have had so many close calls with 4 wheelers yakking on cell phones over the last several years that I would not be able to count them all up.

My solution?

I got a job that is in a place that I can walk to if I had to. I drive less than 3000 miles a year, and I have spent less than a single weeks pay on gasoline over the last few years.

People driving cars while yakking are a menace.

11 posted on 01/11/2009 4:01:57 PM PST by Radix (There are 2 kinds of people in this world. Those with loaded guns & those who dig. You dig.)
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To: TornadoAlley3

Personally, I’d rather see them banned in restaurants, stores, lines at the post office....most public places for that matter.


12 posted on 01/11/2009 4:06:33 PM PST by paul51 (11 September 2001 - Never forget (July 4, 2009 see you there))
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To: JudyinCanada

Well that’s cause our law hasn’t come into effect quite yet, they’ve passed it but it won’t take effect until later this year. Way to pay attention.


13 posted on 01/11/2009 4:08:23 PM PST by AntiKev ("Within the strangest people, truth can find the strangest home." - Great Big Sea - Company of Fools)
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To: Reagan79

I have to say that it is a good idea, as much as I don’t like government telling us how to live.

I don’t know where to draw the line, but cell phones are far more distracting than radios, etc. I have almost been wiped out by someone yapping away on a cell phone whilst barrelling through a stop sign.

I guess in a perfect world we would all abstain from any activity that puts our good driving skills at risk, including eating and drinking hot coffee and putting on make-up, etc.


14 posted on 01/11/2009 4:09:59 PM PST by JudyinCanada
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To: Reagan79

You have to decide whether personal safety is more important to you than personal freedom. If you agitate for this new law, you are in effect advocating ultimately the enforcement of your will upon others at the point of a gun. If you vote for this law or agitate for this law you are adding another layer of regulation that will empower the Police who are imperfect men to make primary traffic stops and infringe upon the day to day activities of free men. Every time elected officials, bureaucrats or by popular referendum the majority decide to impose their will on others they do so with the implicit threat of deadly force. By that I mean the Police carry weapons and will use said weapons on the citizen that tries to resist the enforcement of a law.

Police are us. We are all imperfect beings. To empower an imperfect being to confront another imperfect being is a tricky thing. You empower government at great peril. Be very very careful law and order types... “Their ought to be ja law”. A more foolish thing was never said and represents an audacious level of self absorption and self righteousness. Shame on me for ever thinking that... Shame on you for saying it (almost) here.


15 posted on 01/11/2009 4:11:11 PM PST by DariusBane (I've got a bracelet too :))
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To: MarkL
No passengers allowed to talk to the driver

Yes, talking passengers can keep you awake on those long drives. And we all know how important sleep is for safe driving.

16 posted on 01/11/2009 4:11:31 PM PST by PAR35
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To: AntiKev

Are you sure? I admit I don’t pay that much attention because I don’t watch Canadian news very often. Everyone at work was saying it was in effect and I had no cause to doubt them. Think I’ll check it out tomorrow.


17 posted on 01/11/2009 4:14:18 PM PST by JudyinCanada
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To: JudyinCanada

Several times crossing the street on a green light, have
almost been hit more than once by drivers going through red lights talking on cell phones.


18 posted on 01/11/2009 4:14:29 PM PST by SoCalPol (Reagan Republican for Palin - Jindal 2012)
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To: nothingnew

Yup - all is well. Thanks for the kind words.


19 posted on 01/11/2009 4:14:54 PM PST by JudyinCanada
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To: TornadoAlley3

If I was advising a company on risk issues, I would advise them to at least ban hand held cell phones while driving on company business. Even if it isn’t a contributing factor, you know a plaintiff’s attorney will try to hang it around your neck even if their client caused the wreck.


20 posted on 01/11/2009 4:15:04 PM PST by PAR35
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To: svcw
(As a side note they always have to go - now).

It is an amazing phenomenon defying all modern medical wisdom.

21 posted on 01/11/2009 4:15:15 PM PST by facedown (Armed in the Heartland)
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To: DariusBane

Thanks for saying what I was gonna.


22 posted on 01/11/2009 4:15:34 PM PST by Big Giant Head (I should change my tagline to "Big Giant penguin on my Head")
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To: TornadoAlley3

I don’t support a nanny state. This is just another law designed to enable cops to pull over motorists to search for “drugs.”


23 posted on 01/11/2009 4:16:05 PM PST by mysterio
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To: TornadoAlley3

Just ban crashes. Millions talk on their cells daily and don’t crash.


24 posted on 01/11/2009 4:17:57 PM PST by Sybeck1 (Million Minuteman March (Spring 2009))
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To: MarkL
And no pretty girls allowed out on the streets.

That nearly cost me dearly about 26 years ago. She was fine and the Tiger Paws held-up.

25 posted on 01/11/2009 4:18:53 PM PST by eyedigress
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To: DariusBane
What a pant load. How is your personal freedom abridged ?
Driving is a privilege, conferred by the state...not a right. We're a nation of laws.
you don't like the law ? don't drive.
26 posted on 01/11/2009 4:19:13 PM PST by stylin19a ( Real Men don't declare unplayable lies)
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To: TornadoAlley3
I think some people, my husband for example, can not drive and talk about something important at the same time. He slows down, misses turns, etc. Driving competently takes more concentration than people realize. This us what should be stressed. My daughter was rear ended by a guy driving a huge Dodge pick up. She saw him checking his cell phone just before he hit her and rammed her Beetle into an old Chevy Caprice. (I think) Fortunately she was only bruised by her shoulder harness. She hates to drive now, or be driven for that matter. That said.... I would love for her to be able to call me for directions or help if she is driving through a dangerous area without feeling she has to pull over to the curb.
27 posted on 01/11/2009 4:19:25 PM PST by stayathomemom (Cat herder and empty nester)
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To: PAR35
I believe many companies do ban hand held, this group wants govt to ban hands free, their intent is to get it included in the highway bill as the feds did with the DUI limit. States do not go along, no money.
28 posted on 01/11/2009 4:19:48 PM PST by TornadoAlley3 (Obama is everything Oklahoma is not.)
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To: Sybeck1

The biggest distraction is probably “thinking” of something in addition to driving.


29 posted on 01/11/2009 4:20:03 PM PST by Sacajaweau (I'm planting corn...Have to feed my car...)
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Given that so many people have endangered my life with this behavior, I’m fully in support of banning the use of cell phones while driving.


30 posted on 01/11/2009 4:20:29 PM PST by Rammer
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To: svcw
The latest PS ad I've heard from our esteemed federal government says that anyone under 4 foot 9 inches needs to be in a car seat. That would include several dozen kids in my 15 year old's freshman class.

Anyone doubt that there are employees in DC who need to be put to work on a road crew, where they can actually do useful work?

31 posted on 01/11/2009 4:21:14 PM PST by yooper (If you don't know where you're going, any road will take you there......)
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To: Big Giant Head

Your welcome. I know that I will never win the personal freedom argument in this country. My neihbors want more and more guarantees on their safety. Therefore more cops, more laws, less freedom. Here Free Republic (a very ironic name) their are lists and lists and lists of members who will agitate for guarantees on personal safety, and will take away my freedom at the point of a gun if necessary to secure the guarantees. It makes me weep.


32 posted on 01/11/2009 4:24:38 PM PST by DariusBane (I've got a bracelet too :))
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To: KevinDavis
I really hate Safety Groups.....

I do to. I noticed the head of this group, Janet Froetscher, became the head of National Safety Council this year. Before that she was head of the United Way in Chicago. Prior work experience includes founding an executive search firm and sitting on a board at the Aspen Institute.

Which brings in the question...how the hell is the woman a safety expert???

33 posted on 01/11/2009 4:30:54 PM PST by BookmanTheJanitor
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To: BookmanTheJanitor; All

Good question..


34 posted on 01/11/2009 4:32:31 PM PST by KevinDavis (Thomas Jefferson: A little rebellion now and then is a good thing)
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To: MarkL

ban cars.... either walk or take the train....


35 posted on 01/11/2009 4:32:36 PM PST by pointsal
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To: stylin19a

Pant load?

The biggest pant load is the genius who figured out a way to circumvent due process by turning driving into a social contract. For me I choose Freedom and Responsibility. You want guaranties of safety. I don’t want guarantees of safety. You want to impose your will on others through a legislative and judicial process. I want to be left alone, and I am willing to leave you alone.

Pant load...?

You sound like a Statist Thug looking for his mommy to keep him from hurting himself.

It’s only a pant load to overly compliant slaves who don’t value being a free man. This is a necessary discussion, and I am quite aware that my neighbors don’t want what I am selling. I am quite aware that the majority in this country want to live in a highly controlled environment. Sad? Yes. Pant Load? Yes.


36 posted on 01/11/2009 4:33:13 PM PST by DariusBane (I've got a bracelet too :))
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To: SoCalPol

I would suggest that you drive defensively and actively avoid drivers who do that. Driving awake and aware will keep you far safer than enacting yet another law.


37 posted on 01/11/2009 4:38:05 PM PST by DariusBane (I've got a bracelet too :))
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To: DariusBane; stylin19a

What you said.

Generally, women are more willing to trade freedoms away for greater safety than men are.


38 posted on 01/11/2009 4:40:01 PM PST by Balding_Eagle (If America falls, darkness will cover the face of the earth for a thousnad years.)
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To: Balding_Eagle

Sir, with all due respect the men in this country don’t act like men anymore. They act like they have spent the last 60 years in government schools being taught compliance and safety in a highly controlled environment. Oh wait...


39 posted on 01/11/2009 4:42:59 PM PST by DariusBane (I've got a bracelet too :))
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To: DariusBane

You don’t get it.
My transportation is public trans & walking using my forearm crutches.

Car or no car, a red light means stop, not drive through it because you are on the phone.


40 posted on 01/11/2009 4:48:38 PM PST by SoCalPol (Reagan Republican for Palin - Jindal 2012)
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To: TornadoAlley3
While they're at it, they should ban the even more dangerous distractions that threaten the public safety such as police officers operating radar guns while driving, police officers listening to and responding to radio dispatchers while driving, police officers viewing or operating data terminals while driving, etc.

Watch 'em squeal when you propose those "safety" improvements...

And no, before anybody goes off half-cocked, the use of the word 'squeal' in the paragraph above does not suggest in any way, shape, or form that I am equating police officers with 'pigs'.

41 posted on 01/11/2009 4:52:46 PM PST by Zeppo
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To: BookmanTheJanitor

Janet Froetscher was appointed chief operating officer of the Aspen Institute in August 2001. She had previously served as executive vice president for seminars and communications. Ms. Froetscher joined the Aspen Institute in October 1999 as senior vice president, revamping and greatly strengthening its leadership development programs. Moreover, she devised promising new approaches to the integration of these programs with the various policy programs of the Institute. On January 1, 2000, she was elected executive vice president and was given the additional responsibility of heading up internal and external communications. Since May 2000, she has also overseen the Institute’s strategic planning and implementation initiative. Her earlier experience includes six years in corporate finance and seven years as executive director of a subsidiary of the Commercial Club of Chicago and its Civic Committee. Among her many accomplishments there, she worked actively with the Mayor’s Chicago School Reform Board of Trustees when they first took control of the school system. In 1996, Ms. Froetscher was named by Crain’s Chicago Business as one of “Chicago’s Most Influential Women” and one of its “40 under 40” leaders. She holds a BA with highest distinction from the University of Virginia and an MBA, also with highest distinction, from the Kellogg Graduate School of Management at Northwestern University. Ms. Froetscher currently serves as a member of the School Board in Glencoe, IL, where she resides with her husband and two children.


42 posted on 01/11/2009 4:54:13 PM PST by razorback-bert (Save the planet...it is the only known one with beer!)
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To: TornadoAlley3
Driving while talking on a hand helded cellphone is already against the law here in CA.
43 posted on 01/11/2009 4:54:59 PM PST by Churchillspirit
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To: TornadoAlley3

Texas will have legislation proposed in the upcoming session that if enacted could be the strictest ban in the nation or so it’s claimed...

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http://www.kvue.com/news/top/stories/010709kvue_cell-phone-ban-cb.144ff39.html
AUSTIN, Texas—Some Texas lawmakers are trying to ban drivers from talking on their cell phones while on the road – even if they’re using a hands-free device.

If the lawmakers get their way, it would be the strictest cell phone ban in the nation.

They are expected to introduce bills for the ban when the legislative session begins next week.
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44 posted on 01/11/2009 4:55:06 PM PST by deport
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To: SoCalPol

A red light does mean stop. The responsibility portion of the equation is that everybody is responsible for their actions. That means protecting you walking through intersections. Being hammered civilly, judicially for hurting somebody else. You also have a responsibility to protect yourself as best you can. That is reality in life. Don’t expect somebody else to do it for you. You will be disappointed. Don’t expect me to support additional laws. The laws are already in place to protect you. The laws on the books today will not protect you. New laws will not protect you. God may, and you can protect yourself as best you can.


45 posted on 01/11/2009 4:55:26 PM PST by DariusBane (I've got a bracelet too :))
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To: JudyinCanada

I was sure, but now you have me doubting myself. I’ve searched the most recent incarnation of the Highway Traffic Act and there’s nothing. And I also can’t find any listed amendments on the provincial government website.


46 posted on 01/11/2009 4:58:36 PM PST by AntiKev ("Within the strangest people, truth can find the strangest home." - Great Big Sea - Company of Fools)
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To: TornadoAlley3
I was stopped in traffic when a woman chatting on a cell phone rammed her car into mine. I spent several months in physical therapy and still have some problems caused by the ‘accident’. I favor banning talking on cell phones while driving.
47 posted on 01/11/2009 4:58:39 PM PST by goldfinch
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To: MarkL
No eating or drinking while driving.

I never drink and drive. I always pull over and finish my beer.

48 posted on 01/11/2009 4:59:09 PM PST by Sir Francis Dashwood (Arjuna, why have you have dropped your bow???)
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To: SoCalPol
Hmmm. I've almost been hit by drivers going through red lights while NOT talking on cell phones. Maybe we should ban driving.
49 posted on 01/11/2009 5:04:56 PM PST by SoCal Pubbie
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To: AntiKev

Well, I thought I was sure but now I am doubting as well. I have looked here and there and can’t see any date mentioned either. If time permits, I will check it out tomorrow at work. If I am wrong (and it’s been known to happen) then I retract my comment about people not obeying.


50 posted on 01/11/2009 5:05:17 PM PST by JudyinCanada
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