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Why is Paki an unacceptable word, but not Brit? Because of Britain's bitter racial history
London Times ^ | January 12, 2009 | Murad Ahmed

Posted on 01/11/2009 4:59:19 PM PST by GOPGuide

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To: GOPGuide
I just decided that "Yank" is an offensive word.

Who do I sue, and how much do I get?

41 posted on 01/11/2009 6:30:09 PM PST by Cowboy Bob (Barack Obama: The Bernie Madoff of Politics)
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To: GOPGuide

Heh, in MA we used to use the term Packie all the time— it meant Package store, AKA Liquor Store.


42 posted on 01/11/2009 6:30:14 PM PST by Cheesel (The Ark was built by amateurs, the Titanic by professionals.)
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To: sinsofsolarempirefan
I watched the video. I am sorry to be so dense, but I still do not see this as a big deal.

It's a soldier with his friends. The bit at the end had him as the butt of the jokes.

God save the UK, the PC police have taken over.

43 posted on 01/11/2009 6:44:02 PM PST by Volunteer
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To: AgThorn

I don’t know if Paki is racist in Great Britain, but it is a derogatory term in every country.


44 posted on 01/11/2009 6:47:38 PM PST by Crystal Cove
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To: LegendHasIt

Those are hardly relative comparisons. How about is it racist or disrepectful to call an Asian a gook? That would be a more apt comparison.


45 posted on 01/11/2009 6:50:22 PM PST by Crystal Cove
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To: gondramB

When I was in England in the 80s, one night while watching tv news the announcer brought up a story of an accident on the M4 between a delivery truck and an auto. The newsman read the story as follows: Two adults and two children in the auto were injured in the accident along with two dogs being transported in the delivery truck. Also injured in the accident was a Pakistani man that was driving the truck.

Go figure.


46 posted on 01/11/2009 6:51:12 PM PST by Always Independent
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To: denydenydeny

Didn’t the British use slave labor for the oil fields in Iran? Although the slaves weren’t African.


47 posted on 01/11/2009 6:53:50 PM PST by Crystal Cove
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To: LegendHasIt
Is calling someone from Canada=Canuck racist?

This raises an important point, that point being the insidious and cunning of the politically correct. I believe that it was - well anyway, a character in Alice In Wonderland, who said to this effect. "Words mean just what I choose them to mean".

During an American Presidential campaign, a candidate called certain residents of Maine, Canucks. The roof fell in on him. "Racist, racist" etc. Many Canadians had migrated there for a better way of life. In the meantime skiers who achieved success for Canada rejoiced in the name "the crazy Canucks". This was their style., hair raising stuff. The NHL team is called "The Vancouver Canucks".

Even the name "Gypsy" was banned in England as an insult. Then the true Romany got angry at their name being so banned. So today "Gypsy" is back in. This for the real proven Romany, about five thousand in number. "Travellers" are used for the new age nomads, not gypsies, but doing nothing and taking much. The usual suspects of course, pretend gypsies.

It is all in the political agenda- as you point out, by your post.

48 posted on 01/11/2009 7:04:19 PM PST by Peter Libra
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To: LegendHasIt
So, Is calling someone from the USA = Yank racist?

Is some parts of the south calling someone a Yank or Yankee might get you hurt.

49 posted on 01/11/2009 7:07:57 PM PST by PAR35
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To: Crystal Cove

Forget for a moment my Yanks and Canucks comparison.


Sweden = Swede
Australia = Aussie
Pakistan = Paki
It is a logical ‘shorthand’.
If you consider the one to be “racist”, then you must consider the others to be so too.

In line with my original posit: Gooks would be from “Gooklandia” or Gookistan or something like that.


50 posted on 01/11/2009 7:19:19 PM PST by LegendHasIt (Freepmail me if you want to join the Precious Metals ping list.)
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To: PAR35

Yeah, but is it “RAAASSSICCCIIISSSTTT”


51 posted on 01/11/2009 7:21:33 PM PST by LegendHasIt (Freepmail me if you want to join the Precious Metals ping list.)
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To: Volunteer

I agree, in the context Prince Harry was using it in, its a fuss about nothing. Me and my friends refer to each other as ‘nonces’ (brit vulgar slang for paedophile), ‘c**ts’, ‘t**ts’ etc frequently as a means of affectionate insult. Taken out of context it’s outrageous, and if I was to go up to some guy I didn’t know and call them those names, I’d expect a fist to be heading towards my face pretty soon after....


52 posted on 01/11/2009 7:24:48 PM PST by sinsofsolarempirefan
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To: LegendHasIt

Your opinion aside, Pakistanis consider it an insult to be called Pakis, and most people know that.


53 posted on 01/11/2009 7:59:19 PM PST by Crystal Cove
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To: robomatik

Me:”...the latin adjective “niger” - which meant the color black”


robomatik
“iirc, the latin word “negrum” means “black.”

You could easily be right - I tool 7 years of French but no Latin... I did look it up and found numerous references that said “nioger” however.

http://www.ferris.edu/jimcrow/caricature/

>>The etymology of nigger is often traced to the Latin niger, meaning black. The Latin niger became the noun negro (black person) in English, and simply the color black in Spanish and Portuguese. In Early Modern French niger became negre and, later, negress (black woman) was clearly a part of lexical history. One can compare to negre the derogatory nigger – and earlier English variants such as negar, neegar, neger, and niggor – which developed into a parallel lexico-semantic reality in English. It is likely that nigger is a phonetic spelling of the white Southern mispronunciation of Negro. Whatever its origins, by the early 1800s it was firmly established as a denigrative epithet. Almost two centuries later, it remains a chief symbol of white racism.<<


54 posted on 01/11/2009 8:18:23 PM PST by gondramB (Preach the Gospel at all times, and when necessary, use words.)
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To: Crystal Cove
Didn’t the British use slave labor for the oil fields in Iran? Although the slaves weren’t African.

That I've never heard. At any rate, Iran was never a British colony and therefore never Crown territory; British common law was never in force there.

55 posted on 01/11/2009 8:18:49 PM PST by denydenydeny (If pigs could vote, the man with the slop bucket would be elected swineherd every time-OS Card)
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LOL.... I had a similar thought

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57 posted on 01/11/2009 8:27:54 PM PST by gondramB (Preach the Gospel at all times, and when necessary, use words.)
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To: sinsofsolarempirefan

Thanks for the info. I must admit that at the ripe old age of 49 years I have never uttered nor heard anyone utter nor ever thought of uttering the epithet “Paki”..... so as an American the whole controversy seems very remote to me. But I’ll take your word for it that the term is very offensive.


58 posted on 01/11/2009 8:37:18 PM PST by Enchante (Bernie Madoff Learned His Ponzi-Investment Strategy from our Social Security System!!)
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To: gondramB
I wonder if Paki is really in that category though. Surely the Brits had bad names for various Indian groups but Paki sounds pretty generic.

"Paki" wouldn't have been one of them. Because Pakistan is a created acronym from Punjab, Afghania Kashmir, Sindh, and it didn't exist before Indian/Pakistani independence

As for it being offensive http://www.paki.com/

59 posted on 01/11/2009 9:05:12 PM PST by Oztrich Boy ("The urge to save humanity is almost always a false face for the urge to rule." - H L Mencken.)
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To: Cowboy Bob
I just decided that "Yank" is an offensive word.

You septics are so sensitive.

60 posted on 01/11/2009 9:09:23 PM PST by Oztrich Boy ("The urge to save humanity is almost always a false face for the urge to rule." - H L Mencken.)
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