Posted on 01/12/2009 6:55:59 PM PST by bruinbirdman
“Here’s one: Archaeopteryx”
There has been much discussion about that one being a transition. It’s not at all obvious as you state.
And that's your professional opinion?
What is the basis of this opinion, please?
Oh, you mean the same geological record that shows the earth warms and cools on it’s own (which is ignored) as the basis for evolution?
Yeah I have a better one it’s called DNA.
“If it could be demonstrated that any complex organ existed, which could not possibly have been formed by numerous, successive, slight modifications, my theory would absolutely break down.” — Charles Darwin.
None of your responses address the issue. Could you please try again?
We don't have enough evidence to tell. Archaeopteryx may well have died out without evolving into another species. But, if you're looking for a species that is somewhere between a dinosaur and a bird, it's a good example of such a critter.
That’s like saying the plesiosaur was the missing link between the dolphin and the snake.
No, it's not. When they died out, it was the end of the line for plesiosaurs. They did not evolve into other species.
Archaeopteryx was just a bird that’s now extinct.
I suppose if you ignore its many dinoaur-like features, that's true.
Why are monkeys still here?
Because they fit their various environmental niches well.
And why aren’t some of them trying to evolve?
What makes you think the evolution of monkeys and apes is at an end?
Sexual reproduction produces more genetic variation than parthenogenesis (where an animal produces a copy of itself without sexual reproduction).
Success speaks for itself. Most large species sexually reproduce and for good reasons. Parthenogenic populations have very little genetic variation and are very vulnerable to selective pressure against any particular genetic variation, because it will be shared by the vast majority of the population.
so what came first the male or the female?
The hermaphrodite came first.
Sexual organs developed in hermaphrodites. From there it is a rather small step to sexual specialization, and males and females would develop simultaneously from a hermaphroditic population.
Far from these links being “missing” they are living among us in the form of nematodes that can be either hermaphroditic, male or female within the same population.
What is a nematodes?
Millions of years eh? Next will you tell me the earth is only a few thousand years old? That the human species are as old as any other life on earth?
no i did not say that where did you get that idea?
If there were no humans during the time of the dinosaurs, or any other placental mammals for that matter; where do you suppose those placental mammals came from?
You obviously have some kooky idea about it, completely unsubstantiated by any evidence; so tell me.
Where do new species come from if they were not all created nearly contemporaneously?
But there were dinos during the time of man. Rats and bats? They sure did not climb out of the sea.
You shouldn’t believe everything you read in a comic book. There have been reliefs in south america and other parts of the world that have dinos carved on them. Which have only been recently know to modern man in the last 100 years identified by the fossil record of dead dinos.
OK. I see your threshold of evidence is set rather low for what you want to believe, and set impossibly high for what you reject for theological reasons.
Most people realize ‘The Flintstones’ is an anachronism sometime in childhood. I know it is a disappointment, but at some point you have to face reality.
That’s funny, so what was it BEFORE and WHAT did it become AFTER? And I mean: what EXACT Dinosaur was it, and what EXACT bird did it become?
We don’t have enough evidence to tell. Archaeopteryx may well have died out without evolving into another species. But, if you’re looking for a species that is somewhere between a dinosaur and a bird, it’s a good example of such a critter.
JUST LIKE PLESIOSAUR IS A GOOD EXAMPLE OF A SNAKE AND A DOLPHIN. (I WOULD USE ITALIC IF I COULD SO CAPS WILL HAVE TO DO).
No, it’s not. When they died out, it was the end of the line for plesiosaurs. They did not evolve into other species.
HOW DO YOU KNOW WERE YOU THERE? I GUESS THIS CRITTER DIDN’T HAVE THE LUCK OF EVOLVING LIKE THE COELACANTH— I WAIT IT DIDN’T EVOLVE EITHER.
I suppose if you ignore its many dinoaur-like features, that’s true.
SAME AS IF YOU IGNORE THE PLESIOSAUR’S SNAKE AND DOLPHIN-LIKE FEATURES.
Because they fit their various environmental niches well.
BUT WE EVOLVED FROM THEM. THEY SHOULDN’T BE HERE.
What makes you think the evolution of monkeys and apes is at an end?
WHAT MAKES YOU THINK THEY’RE EVOLVING NOW?
IT’S THE TEXT BOOKS THAT TELL US WE CAME FROM THEM SO YOU TELL ME.
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