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Hope and Change: Move to repeal presidential term limits started
Hot Air ^ | Jan. 13, 2009 | Ed Morrissey

Posted on 01/13/2009 9:00:36 PM PST by FocusNexus

Maybe I'm just being too cynical, but somehow I doubt that Rep. Jose Serrano introduced HJ Res 5 in order to allow George W Bush to run for a third term in office. One week ago, the New York Democrat introduced a measure to repeal the 22nd Amendment, which provides the only term limit on federal office - the Presidency. The amendment, added in 1951, restricts anyone from seeking a third term in office, and Serrano wants that repealed.

Why now? Apparently, the notion of Hope and Change has overwhelmed Serrano to the point that he just can't stand to see Barack Obama limited to two terms in office. Never mind the fact that Obama has yet to start his first term, and no one knows yet whether he’d get re-elected in 2012. Maybe it's that New Deal vibe; Serrano may want to prepare the way for a more tangible comparison between Obama and FDR in 2016 and 2020.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Editorial; Extended News; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 22nd; 22ndamendment; bo; democrat; democrats; dictatorship; heckno; justsayno; no; noway; obama; prelude; termlimits
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1 posted on 01/13/2009 9:00:36 PM PST by FocusNexus
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To: FocusNexus
Hope, Change, Hope, Change, Hope, Change, Hope

We are so doomed.

2 posted on 01/13/2009 9:04:07 PM PST by Volunteer
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To: FocusNexus

He can destroy the nation inside of his second term - easy.


4 posted on 01/13/2009 9:05:58 PM PST by anniegetyourgun
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To: FocusNexus

Notice the parrallel with Chavez?

Venezuela’s Chavez Eyes Feb 15 For Referendum On Term Limits

http://www.easybourse.com/bourse-actualite/marches/venezuela-s-chavez-eyes-feb-15-for-referendum-on-term-limits-586579

Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez has penciled in Feb. 15 as the date for a referendum that, if passed, would give him a license to run for re-election indefinitely.

The leftist leader, a fierce critic of the U.S. for much of the decade he has already spent in power, predicted in his weekly television broadcast on Sunday that half the country’s 17 million registered voters would back him.


Mary A. O’Grady : Dictatorship for Dummies

http://www.petroleumworld.com/Ed09011301.htm

“Certainly “elections” can’t be expected to matter much. Mr. Chávez now controls the entire electoral process, from voter rolls to tallying totals after the polls have closed. Under enormous public pressure he accepted defeat in his 2007 bid for constitutional reforms designed to make him president for life. But so what? That loss allowed him to maintain the guise of democracy, and now he has decided that there will be another referendum on the same question in February. Presumably Venezuela will repeat this exercise until the right answer is produced. “


5 posted on 01/13/2009 9:06:13 PM PST by FocusNexus
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To: FocusNexus

Wonder what 0bama promised him for this one? It looks likt the first step for 0bama’s plan to become President for Life..just sayin’...


6 posted on 01/13/2009 9:06:49 PM PST by celtic gal
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To: Volunteer

Hopey Chnagemas!


7 posted on 01/13/2009 9:08:37 PM PST by Army Air Corps (Four fried chickens and a coke)
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To: FocusNexus

one 6 year term for the u.s. presidency would be more than enough, and add some sanity to u.s. politics.

one 6 year u.s. senatorial term, same.

and 3 2-year u.s. congressional terms, same.


8 posted on 01/13/2009 9:09:11 PM PST by ken21 (people die and you never hear from them again.)
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To: Army Air Corps

Chnagemas = Changemas


9 posted on 01/13/2009 9:09:19 PM PST by Army Air Corps (Four fried chickens and a coke)
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To: Volunteer

It was the hopeful audacity for hopeful changiness. Change that would audaciously create hope to look away from the politics of the past to look ahead to the hope of change and the hope that only change can audaciously bring.


10 posted on 01/13/2009 9:11:35 PM PST by Army Air Corps (Four fried chickens and a coke)
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To: berdie

later


11 posted on 01/13/2009 9:13:29 PM PST by berdie
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To: FocusNexus; Chet 99; ExTexasRedhead; Frantzie; GOP_Lady; HamiltonJay; jveritas; kesg; LS; ...

I hate to say this, because it would be a mortal sin, but I believe if this happened, some one would take matters in his, or her, own hands.


12 posted on 01/13/2009 9:14:03 PM PST by Perdogg (Only the hypnotized never lie)
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To: FocusNexus

how about some term limits for Congress?


13 posted on 01/13/2009 9:14:47 PM PST by tioga (Let us unite in prayer for our country.)
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To: FocusNexus

Shall we just short circuit this whole slide into tinpot dictatorship and show up at the re-education camps day after inauguration???

... That would surely reduce the anxiety and sadness of the slow loss of freedoms.


14 posted on 01/13/2009 9:15:14 PM PST by WOSG (Oppose Big Govt spending - no bailouts, no boondoggles, no earmarks)
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To: FocusNexus

Good Lord I can’t even imagine what else the Dims will propose over the next four years.


15 posted on 01/13/2009 9:16:35 PM PST by Rennes Templar (The Messiah and the Religion of Fleece)
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To: Perdogg

I don’t think anyone will even be upset - remember the frog in the pot? When the heat i9s being turned up gradually, he doesn’t notice he is being cooked, until he is completely done.

I think we are halfway cooked already and have no strength to even jump out of the pot, much less do anything else.


16 posted on 01/13/2009 9:16:53 PM PST by FocusNexus
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To: FocusNexus
Why now? Apparently, the notion of Hope and Change has overwhelmed Serrano to the point that he just can't stand to see Barack Obama limited to two terms in office. Never mind the fact that Obama has yet to start his first term,

Obama may not make it past 4 months.

17 posted on 01/13/2009 9:17:22 PM PST by Red Steel
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To: Army Air Corps

Anybody who has seen my postings on FR will remember that I have harped on the same theme for the last two months. Many of you thought I was overstating Obama’s desire for a permanent Presidency; complacency set in to thinking that you could remove Obama in 2016. Please, please wake up America. Obama plans to stay President until he dies and that won’t be for at least 30 years given the normal life span of males in America. If you had asked Cubans in 1959 what odds would they have taken that Castro or his brother would still be ruling Cuba in 50 years they would have taken any odds.


18 posted on 01/13/2009 9:17:49 PM PST by techno
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To: Volunteer

As the Obama presidency nears the feeling of forboding in my gut gets stronger and stronger. I ran into a place online where you can watch the movie 1984, for free. There is a piece where there a woman is broadcasting changes in production, and at the end, because things are improving, she announces that the chocolate rations. UGH, I so feel like this is where we are going. The whole feel of that movie freaked me out.

I got an email from the Obama team. I don’t know why I get it. I certainly never signed up for anything from them. I did go to that change.gov website once but I never signed up or in or anything and I think they stole my address. Anyway it is interesting to see how they work things. Obama makes a proposal, his people put it online in vague flowery terms. They change the meaning of words if necessary....ie infrastructure is now investment. They they have their people comment on the proposals. Just one or two to begin with, then as soon as a real person comments they will set them straight real quick if they are not marching in step and so on and so on and before you know it everyone is marching in lock step chanting change change change.


19 posted on 01/13/2009 9:18:46 PM PST by Hanna548 (s)
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To: tioga

I agree. There should be term limits for congress. We have term limits for president, governors and mayors. Why not term limits for Congress.... 12 years should be the limit. What is the reason we don’t have term limits, except that congress are the ones that probably have to introduce the legislation.


20 posted on 01/13/2009 9:24:28 PM PST by karenfromny
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To: techno

There are more similarities between the "Hussein"-s, than their name.

21 posted on 01/13/2009 9:25:42 PM PST by FocusNexus
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To: FocusNexus

Yep, that’s the first thing I noticed, too.


22 posted on 01/13/2009 9:26:06 PM PST by LibertyRocks ( http://LibertyRocks.wordpress.com ~ Pro-Palin & NObama Gear : http://cafepress.com/NO_ObamaBiden08)
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To: FocusNexus

bttt


23 posted on 01/13/2009 9:28:42 PM PST by SuperLuminal
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To: Volunteer

Right. But before we’re doomed we will get a royal screwing.


24 posted on 01/13/2009 9:33:01 PM PST by pankot
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To: FocusNexus
Don't sweat it -- any such amendment repeal would take place years from now, and would specifically not apply to the current President (which would in your scenario be Obama).

All it would do is affect the NEXT President after that.

The 22nd Amendment worked exactly that way, and there is tremendous precedent for such a restriction. The repeal would never get ratified without it.

25 posted on 01/13/2009 9:33:18 PM PST by dayglored (Listen, strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government!)
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To: FocusNexus

This reminds me of Chavez in Venezuala.

This Serrono and his buddy Obama are Che` leftists.

Watch what they do.


26 posted on 01/13/2009 9:38:19 PM PST by Finalapproach29er (Democrats still want to get Pres. Bush and/or VP Cheney; there might be show trials in Feb09)
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To: dayglored

I think you are underestimating Obama and the Dems.


27 posted on 01/13/2009 9:39:04 PM PST by FocusNexus
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To: FocusNexus

When one considers what Bloomberg just pulled off with his own term limits as NYC mayor, this appears straight from the playbook.


28 posted on 01/13/2009 9:40:02 PM PST by AmericanGirlRising (Buying carbon credits will not get me into Heaven. I am second - http://iamsecond.com/#/home/)
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To: FocusNexus

The prospect of this happening is so frightening that I have made room for it on my very busy worry schedule. From now on I will worry about Obama serving more than two terms. I will do it every Wednesday between 1:00 and 1:15 pm, right after I worry about the Giant Asteroid and just before worrying about the heartbreak of psoriasis.


29 posted on 01/13/2009 9:42:17 PM PST by Nick Danger (www.swiftvets.com)
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To: FocusNexus

Id prefer one 5 year term the limit


30 posted on 01/13/2009 9:43:12 PM PST by al baby (Hi mom)
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To: Nick Danger

I don’t think you have it in the proper perspective — the INTENT and AUDACITY is the key here, whether or not they succeed.

And as I said in an earlier post — watch Chavez, who is just a few steps ahead of where Obama intends to take us.


31 posted on 01/13/2009 9:45:20 PM PST by FocusNexus
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To: All

I just had a thought.

Maybe we should all get behind this.

Just think — then Bill Clinton could run again! LOL

Obama could beat Hillary, but no way would he beat Bill Clinton. Maybe that’s the way to put an end to Obama’s presidency after his first term.


32 posted on 01/13/2009 9:52:58 PM PST by FocusNexus
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To: ken21; tioga; karenfromny; al baby

I’m not sure term limts on Congresscritters goes deep enough.

All of these guys have a staff to help them. A “permanent” staffer could work for various congressmen over the years and become experienced in their job.

A new congressman comes in and hires the experienced staffer, because he’s experienced, and takes his advice.

What we’d end up with (and probably have now to some extent) is an entrenced bureaucracy of permanent staffers who are the real power behind the elected officials. These would be people the voters can’t reach to replace.


33 posted on 01/13/2009 9:53:36 PM PST by KrisKrinkle (Blessed be those who know the depth and breadth of their ignorance. Cursed be those who don't.)
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To: FocusNexus

If we do this; we will move into dictatorships and there will be nothing but strife and unrest with dictatorships being turned over all of the time. In other words, unstable. The dimwits may think this will keep them in power; but it will do just the opposite.

In the 60’s Guatamala was being overturned about every 6 weeks. I don’t know about now; but it would be the worst thing in the world to do. This is why we have democracy so that we may have a stable government. The dimwits want you to believe their methods are stable when they are anything but.


34 posted on 01/13/2009 9:54:04 PM PST by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote.)
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To: freekitty

The US will turn into a “third world” country with no economy to speak of.


35 posted on 01/13/2009 9:55:54 PM PST by FocusNexus
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To: karenfromny

I would like to see the 17th Amendment repealed. That would help IMHO.


36 posted on 01/13/2009 10:09:02 PM PST by MCF
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To: FocusNexus

GOD HAVE MERCY

WHAT HIDEOUSNESS.


37 posted on 01/13/2009 10:14:49 PM PST by Quix (LEADRs SAY FRM 1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: Perdogg

This possibility is always there, no matter who the POTUS is. There are probably a finite number of assassination attempts, just on President George W. Bush, that the general public will never, ever really know about.


38 posted on 01/13/2009 10:22:51 PM PST by johnthebaptistmoore (Conservatives obey the rules. Leftists cheat. Who probably has the political advantage?)
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To: celtic gal
Barack Hussein Obama is Idi Amin, Version 2.0

And not a damn thing different.

39 posted on 01/13/2009 10:40:52 PM PST by Prole (Please pray for the families of Chris and Channon. May God always watch over them.)
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To: Prole

I would not be surprised..look at the lot of his terrorist relatives in Kenya...he is just slicker and the MSM just eats it up...thing is..wonder how they are going to like his policies once they begin to affect them too?


40 posted on 01/13/2009 10:46:22 PM PST by celtic gal
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To: FocusNexus; pandoraou812

Hmmmm, Sarah Palin President forever. Maybe we should think about this. ;^)


41 posted on 01/13/2009 10:49:27 PM PST by TigersEye (This is the age of the death of reason.)
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To: techno

I agree with your thinking and have also mentioned that inasmuch as this maggot is so like minded with Chavez, it would be like him to figure some way to be President For Life. This cannot happen.


42 posted on 01/13/2009 10:52:12 PM PST by celtic gal
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To: FocusNexus

there may be legs here - i swear I saw a youtube video of plasticdude talking about taking “8 to 10 years’ to deal with some issue

best regards, blu


43 posted on 01/13/2009 11:09:16 PM PST by blueplum
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To: tioga
How about instead of amending the constitution we just obey it for a few decades?
44 posted on 01/13/2009 11:16:24 PM PST by KingNo155
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To: techno

Maybe your warnings would generate more concern if we hadn’t heard similar musings around and about every election of every President since this site was founded. All BS. Period. And, worse yet is these ridiculous thoughts take away from the genuine concern we should have about what is actually happening. It doesn’t take the same person in office for excess time to destroy the US.


45 posted on 01/13/2009 11:22:30 PM PST by John W (Voters were more afraid of losing their money than losing their souls.)
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To: KrisKrinkle

There is no ‘probably have now’, it exists now with certainty.

There is a permanent class of Congressional and Executive hacks, and their revolving door lobbyist counterparts that control a large percentage of all policy. regulations, amendments and associated details and interpretations.

When a bill is introduced in Congress by an elected member or by the President’s people, the bill is edited, amended, reinterpreted, reworded to the point that often the original intent is hardly recognized by the originators. Most of such changes are made by permanent staff with inputs from lobbyists who represent special interests.


46 posted on 01/14/2009 12:27:24 AM PST by Hostage
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To: freekitty

Democracy is not stable. The Founders knew that democracies were unstable and so they gave us a democratic republic.

We are not a democracy.

We are a democratic republic.

If we were a democracy then Obama could have a referendum on presidential term limits where ACORN and other surrogates could help have him voted President for life.

The Constitutional Amendment Process requires that 2/3s of Congress vote for an amendment (the democratic part) and that 3/4 of states ratify the amendment (the republic part).

The Founders were wise beyond anything we could wish for. We are truly blessed with their wisdom even today.


47 posted on 01/14/2009 12:35:26 AM PST by Hostage
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To: FocusNexus

What kind of district does this tool represent?


48 posted on 01/14/2009 3:28:08 AM PST by CriticalJ
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To: techno

I posted a similar thought on a Rush thread. In my scenario the Dems would wait until about 2014 to make their move. Sheesh, he’s not even President and the move has started. In my scenario I thought that ACORN would be busy electing friendly state Senators and Assemblymen. However, ACORN is planning to elect Democrat friendly Secretaries of States. In any event, it doesn’t surprise me.


49 posted on 01/14/2009 3:28:45 AM PST by Enterprise (No Presidency for illegal aliens from Kenya.)
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To: dayglored

Obama needs only to pack the Federal Judiciary with lackeys and any thought that he will be limited by term limits will be tossed out with laughter.


50 posted on 01/14/2009 3:31:16 AM PST by Enterprise (No Presidency for illegal aliens from Kenya.)
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