Skip to comments.Farmers blanch at idea of cow tax, EPA anti-methane effort is ridiculed
Posted on 01/14/2009 10:05:09 AM PST by Coleus
It turns out "going green" may mean cutting back on those juicy steaks and burgers. The reason: Cattle and other livestock expel tons of methane gas, which wreaks havoc on the environment. The issue has become so heated, the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency has proposed taxing cows as a way to regulate greenhouse gas emissions under the Clean Air Act -- a suggestion that rankles dairy and cattle farmers.
Pete Staats, whose family has owned Dutch Hollow Farms in Bridgewater for several generations, thinks taxing cows is just plain strange and could put farmers out of business. "I think it's pretty stupid," said Staats, who owns about 40 beef cattle on his Somerset County farm. "If you're going to tax the cows, then you're going to tax the deer, then you're going to tax the geese. It's just ridiculous."
According to the EPA, the gas that leaks from volcanoes and millions of cows and livestock is, pound for pound, about 23 times more potent than carbon dioxide at trapping heat in the atmosphere. Under the EPA proposal, the permit costs potentially translate into $175 per dairy cow, $87.50 a head for beef cattle and $20 per hog, according to Liz Thompson, a research associate with the New Jersey Farm Bureau. A herd of 75 dairy cows would carry a price tag exceeding $13,000.
The proposal is still in the exploratory stage. Staats, a member of the Somerset County Board of Agriculture, sees the proposal as yet another blow to the small family-owned farm. He said the effects of methane from cows is minimal, "especially at the rate we're losing farmers in this country." He said of the methane, "trapping it in some way and using it would make far more sense than putting this so-called tax on it."
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why does the word “bureaucrap” come to mind?
Tax politicians for their oral emissions, and create a terminally stupid tax on those who vote Democrat ...
The carbon that the cows eat was extracted from the air by fertilizer factories.
I wonder which state will seceed first? Based on this I’m guessing one of the states with the most agriculture.
Cattlemen are having a tough time as it is. Add another tax on them and many will go out of business. Besides, what good will an additional tax do............get rid of the gas?
At the last Cattlemen’s meeting new geneticly improved cattle that produced less methane was introduced. (Chi cross)
I was so amused, I never asked how they knew. But at the sale of fresh heifers the going price was $5500. I just may buy a few! LOL
send them old shoes filled with cow dung.
Heres a little gift from your friendly farmer.
Wheres the beef?
“It turns out “going green” may mean cutting back on those juicy steaks and burgers. The reason: Cattle and other livestock expel tons of methane gas, which wreaks havoc on the environment. “
Why? Just eat the freakin things.
By the way, how many cows does it take to expel tons of methane gas?
"A lie will go 7 times round the world before the truth even gets its sneakers on"
I hope it is my beloved Texas, first to bail on the DC libtards and go independent.
BRANG BACK THE REPUBLIC OF TEXAS !!!
But apparently if the recently-eaten carbon is re-emitted by cattle, it's cause for concern.
So which is it- do you tax the cows or the kids?
UN has long felt that we should all eat a vegan diet, could the greens be using lies about cattle carbon dioxide to push their agenda?
from the EPA site ...
“. It is estimated that 60% of global methane emissions are related to human-related activities (IPCC, 2001c). Natural sources of methane include wetlands, gas hydrates, permafrost, termites, oceans, freshwater bodies, non-wetland soils, and other sources such as wildfires.”
Note that it’s the IPCC report that is referenced, in the passive voice, for a statement about anthropogenic methane sources.
Anaerobic fermentation (and decay) are NATURAL producers of methane. I guess we gotta tax Gaeia.
The agriculture lobby is huge. THey will get extra farm subsidies to cover the carbon-cow tax. Or they will be forced to grow corn for ethanol production.
check that : anaerobic respiration, not fermentation. oops.
If farting, is a natural biological function to all living things and we want to get back to nature with the green movement - what are these cows doing that are un-natural and we need to tax the behavior?
My money is on California.
Animal welfare issues will be very much at the forefront, he said. Theres no doubt that Proposition 2 was a wake-up call.
If this happens, I may ask for asylum. Being an oppressed straight white male in CA should qualify, right?
It turns out “going green” may mean cutting back on those juicy steaks and burgers....
Of course!....the left will end up taxing steaks and burgers like cigarettes and alcohol!
DING, DING, DING...we have a winner!!!
The islamofacists should just take the easy road and not fight us. The left is out to kill our society, anyway. Between abortion, restriction on energy use and now, starving ourselves, all they have to do is wait about 20 years before the west falls.
Actually, cows don’t fart.
Usual length to maturity: 24months
Each cow emits 200 to 400 quarts of methane gas per day, or 50 million metric tons per year.
Send em boxes of cow crap. Make them feel at home with their thought processes.
Is this a joke? Seriously.
Actually I do not see the problem.
Cow manure is “green” the last time I looked in the Lot.
And it sure makes plants grow well.
The Lefties are really really stupid.
As they say in Rio Lindo, muy estúpido!
What do you call it.
That is the idea, to drive animal agriculture out of business altogether, so we all eat tofu and alfalfa sprouts.
Abdominal gases, which, by the way, are mostly carbon dioxide, and some methane, are produced by biological functions in the stomachs and intestines of ALL mammals, and are due, primarily, to bacterial action in the gut. The same bacteria pass with the feces, and continue the generation of carbon dioxide and methane during the decomposition of the waste. Human beings are bound by the same biological limitations of ALL mammals, in fact, most animal life, right down to lowly termites and cockroaches, and either the cows produce the methane, or the human beings do. Therefore there should be a tax assessed upon all the human consumers of agricultural products, most especially the vegans who consume mostly plant products, and generate greater amounts of methane than those who consume meat.
Maybe we could all eat dirt, and leave loam as droppings. Works for earthworms.
Better call www.mrmethqane.com
Awww, come on farmers! Get with the program! Willie Nelson and John Cougar Melloncamp are big time farming activitists and they tell you to vote Democrat, and you do.
So if Willie and John say it’s ok, just go ahead and pay it. Maybe Willie will give you a discount on his ethynol he manufactures.
Maybe we could get some big coarks and stuff them in the cows. Hell, we don’t need milk or beef anyway.
They expel methane by belching.
“Cow manure is green the last time I looked in the Lot.”
That depends on how fresh it is. :) And unlike the fertilizer produced by liberals (Leftardus americanus), it serves a useful purpose.
Okay...I'm stepping to the edge of the cliff here....and will say..many folks could do just fine without those two items. I don't drink milk much...and could be just ducky with poultry and wild game.
That being said...the Feds and the Eco-Feds are nuts.
I live in big, big cattle country......and this will be very harmful...if pushed thru.
This is ridiculous. Prior to ranchers, buffalo roamed the plains in such multitudes that it was impossible to see the end of the herds. I assume they had flatulence on a fairly regular basis. Deer, antelope, moose, wolves, fox, otter, mountain goats, cougars, bear were all in abundance and also have the need to pass wind. How in the world can cattle, sheep, goat farmers who have herds and flocks in far smaller amounts be required to pay a tax on flatulence? I keep waiting for people to logically refute these inane attempts to flim/flam us, but all I hear are crickets (I’ll bet they fart, too).
All these taxes are paving the way for Corporate Agriculture to swoop in and buy all these failed businesses at a steep discount. The power to tax, is the power to destroy. When food prices are up over 600%, Americans may realize they have destroyed themselves.
How do you HTML accent marks?
(Nothing like a FReeper paying close attention to the subject matter of the post, right??)
Actually I went to Alta Vista and their Bablefish translator and converted from English to Spanish (my spelling is bad in English and worse in Spanish). Then I pasted the translation with the accent mark into the FreeRepublic post. The editor in FreeRepublic converted it to HTML for me.
However there is a way to do this and a lot of foreign letter codes with standard keyboard using hot keys.
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They had sneakers in the 19th century?