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Live Thread: President Bush Farewell Address 8 P.M. EST ("this great Nation will never tire ")
Thursday, January 15, 2008 | Kristinn

Posted on 01/15/2009 3:25:03 PM PST by kristinn

President George W. Bush will address the nation from the East Room of the White House at 8 p.m. EST.

The White House released excerpts of the speech to the media:

Five days from now, the world will witness the vitality of American democracy. In a tradition dating back to our founding, the presidency will pass to a successor chosen by you, the American people. Standing on the steps of the Capitol will be a man whose story reflects the enduring promise of our land. This is a moment of hope and pride for our whole Nation. And I join all Americans in offering best wishes to President-elect Obama, his wife Michelle, and their two beautiful girls.

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Tonight I am filled with gratitude. I thank the American people for the trust you have given me. I thank you for the prayers that have lifted my spirits. And I thank you for the countless acts of courage, generosity, and grace that I have witnessed these past eight years.

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This evening, my thoughts return to the first night I addressed you from this house – September 11, 2001. That morning, terrorists took nearly 3,000 lives in the worst attack on America since Pearl Harbor.

As the years passed, most Americans were able to return to life much as it had been before 9/11. But I never did. Every morning, I received a briefing on the threats to our Nation. And I vowed to do everything in my power to keep us safe.

Over the past seven years, a new Department of Homeland Security has been created. The military, the intelligence community, and the FBI have been transformed. Our Nation is equipped with new tools to monitor the terrorists’ movements, freeze their finances, and break up their plots. And with strong allies at our side, we have taken the fight to the terrorists and those who support them.

There is legitimate debate about many of these decisions. But there can be little debate about the results. America has gone more than seven years without another terrorist attack on our soil. This is a tribute to those who toil day and night to keep us safe – law enforcement officers, intelligence analysts, homeland security and diplomatic personnel, and the men and women of the United States Armed Forces.

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When people live in freedom, they do not willingly choose leaders who pursue campaigns of terror. When people have hope in the future, they will not cede their lives to violence and extremism. So around the world, America is promoting human liberty, human rights, and human dignity. We are standing with dissidents and young democracies, providing AIDS medicine to bring dying patients back to life, and sparing mothers and babies from malaria. And this great republic born alone in liberty is leading the world toward a new age when freedom belongs to all nations.

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For eight years, we have also strived to expand opportunity and hope here at home. Across our country, students are rising to meet higher standards in public schools. A new Medicare prescription drug benefit is bringing peace of mind to seniors and the disabled. Every taxpayer pays lower income taxes. The addicted and suffering are finding new hope through faith-based programs. Vulnerable human life is better protected. Funding for our veterans has nearly doubled. America’s air, water, and lands are measurably cleaner. And the Federal bench includes wise new members like Justice Sam Alito and Chief Justice John Roberts.

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Like all who have held this office before me, I have experienced setbacks. There are things I would do differently if given the chance. Yet I have always acted with the best interests of our country in mind. I have followed my conscience and done what I thought was right. You may not agree with some tough decisions I have made. But I hope you can agree that I was willing to make the tough decisions.

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The decades ahead will bring more hard choices for our country, and there are some guiding principles that should shape our course.

While our Nation is safer than it was seven years ago, the gravest threat to our people remains another terrorist attack. Our enemies are patient, and determined to strike again. America did nothing to seek or deserve this conflict. But we have been given solemn responsibilities, and we must meet them. We must resist complacency. We must keep our resolve. And we must never let down our guard.

At the same time, we must continue to engage the world with confidence and clear purpose. In the face of threats from abroad, it can be tempting to seek comfort by turning inward. But we must reject isolationism and its companion, protectionism. Retreating behind our borders would only invite danger. In the 21st century, security and prosperity at home depend on the expansion of liberty abroad. If America does not lead the cause of freedom, that cause will not be led.

As we address these challenges – and others we cannot foresee tonight – America must maintain our moral clarity. I have often spoken to you about good and evil. This has made some uncomfortable. But good and evil are present in this world, and between the two there can be no compromise.

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Even in the toughest times, we lift our eyes to the broad horizon ahead.

I have confidence in the promise of America because I know the character of our people. This is a Nation that inspires immigrants to risk everything for the dream of freedom. This is a Nation where citizens show calm in times of danger and compassion in the face of suffering.

These virtues give me an unshakable faith in America. We have faced danger and trial, and there is more ahead. But with the courage of our people and confidence in our ideals, this great Nation will never tire … never falter … and never fail.


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To: retrokitten
I’m going to go take a bath.

I'm afraid the whole county is about to take a bath, RK. :)

151 posted on 01/15/2009 5:28:45 PM PST by TonyInOhio (The people have spoken, the bastards.)
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To: retrokitten

Its going to be a LONG 4 years!

Lord, please watch over our country.


152 posted on 01/15/2009 5:28:59 PM PST by southernerwithanattitude ({new and improved redneck})
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To: kristinn

Another great speech by President Bush! Sad to see him go. We’re going to miss him more and more as Obama and the far left congress start ramming their left-wing legislation down America’s throat.


153 posted on 01/15/2009 5:29:04 PM PST by death2tyrants
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To: Carley

It was also ignored by the childish posters who wanted a benevolent dictator rather than a principled president.


154 posted on 01/15/2009 5:29:21 PM PST by Recovering Ex-hippie (FREE BLAGO !!! LET HIM SPEAK TRUTH TO POWER !!!)
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To: Texas Songwriter

“You obviously did not watch Chris Matthews spew his hatred. Matthews will be lost begining on the 20th of this month when there is no one to hate. I could not believe what that bastard said. Classless, feckless, hollowed out without character, Matthews read his speech of hatred for President Bush. My wife, who would not say anything bad about anyone, said she wants to call him a very ugly name. She wouldn’t, so I did. Matthews...sheesh.....what a prick and putz!”

Was your comment meant for someone else? No, I did not watch Chris “tingle up my leg” Matthews. We don’t support MSNBC and the other liberal MSM outlets by tuning into their shows. Matthews is a certifiable nutcase, imo.

What I did was watch a good and honorable man give his last speech to us as President of the United States of America. As for me and mine, we will always respect and be thankful to him.


155 posted on 01/15/2009 5:30:09 PM PST by CaribouCrossing
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To: kristinn
This evening, my thoughts return to the first night I addressed you from this house – September 11, 2001. That morning, terrorists took nearly 3,000 lives in the worst attack on America since Pearl Harbor.

As the years passed, most Americans were able to return to life much as it had been before 9/11. But I never did. Every morning, I received a briefing on the threats to our Nation. And I vowed to do everything in my power to keep us safe.


Thank you President Bush for keeping our wonderful nation safe for the past 7 years!
156 posted on 01/15/2009 5:31:01 PM PST by LA Woman3
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To: dragnet2
President Bush's legacy is that you are still alive in a free, non-sharia country and can carp about him on the internet.

One would think you could appreciate that.

157 posted on 01/15/2009 5:31:13 PM PST by Miss Marple
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To: Wolfstar

My guess is that our hater would have preferred we throw Elian back into the ocean for the sharks to devour him.


158 posted on 01/15/2009 5:31:21 PM PST by Carley (Remember when we had a real President)
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To: silent_jonny; retrokitten
When he said “goodnight for the final time”—that really hit home.

I couldn't watch it. Way too difficult. Maybe later on a C-SPAN replay.

159 posted on 01/15/2009 5:31:32 PM PST by Wolfstar (This much I know is true, God blessed the broken road that led me straight to you.)
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To: kristinn; All

Is there a way that we can write to President Bush and thank him? I think they disabled the e-mail box for the President on the whitehouse.gov website. I would imagine he was being inundated by hate mail from the looney Left.


160 posted on 01/15/2009 5:31:41 PM PST by Purrcival (Obama and Biden: The Marx Brothers! (Thanks FReeper Enduring Freedom for the tagline))
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To: Darkwolf377
Well said!
161 posted on 01/15/2009 5:32:25 PM PST by Churchillspirit
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To: Recovering Ex-hippie

Should they come attacks on our country will further decimate our economy

God Bless W for all he did for us


162 posted on 01/15/2009 5:32:28 PM PST by woofie
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To: Wolfstar

Just spare yourself and don’t listen to the callers to cspin.


163 posted on 01/15/2009 5:32:38 PM PST by Carley (Remember when we had a real President)
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To: kristinn
We are so screwed.

Come the 20th, millions are going to realize the promotion of freedom we are losing.

Absent minded want for immediate Utopia without thought of personal freedom has led us to this demise.

God be with You President Bush and thank You for your leadership at a time when it was truly required of a leader by all.

You tote an eternal legacy because of your respect of freedom that many will only appreciate with time.

164 posted on 01/15/2009 5:32:59 PM PST by EGPWS (Trust in God, Question everyone else)
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To: Texas Songwriter
Matthews read his speech of hatred for President Bush.

I wouldn't watch Matthews for anything.

Nothing more than one of the many Drive By Buzzards getting a last feast on this President.

165 posted on 01/15/2009 5:33:41 PM PST by tapatio
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To: kristinn
This really breaks my heart. Our Whitehouse is about to be occupied by a person who probably doesn't appreciate the history contained in the building. President Bush is in awe of our Nation and speaks lovingly about the history contained within the Whitehouse.You can tell he loves serving and loves the country.

It is equally sickening to come here and see so many people getting petty at this moment.

166 posted on 01/15/2009 5:33:41 PM PST by armymarinemom (My sons freed Iraqi and Afghan Honor Roll students.)
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To: kristinn

Amen, kristinn


168 posted on 01/15/2009 5:34:27 PM PST by MEG33 (God Bless Our Military)
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To: dragnet2
"Bush's legacy is Obama, a destroyed Republican party, a violent illegal invasion that he aided and abetted and publicly encouraged..Not to mention a smoldering economy at the bottom of a crater"

No, grasshopper ... Obama came from you socialists, lieing in New Hampshire and fawning over Hillary!

The party was (perhaps irrepareably) damaged by the complacency that evolved from your continual harangeing and accusing ...

A vialent and evil ATTACK warranted and demanded retaliation ... do you anylize your swing in a barrom before you respond to the guy that broke a beer bottle over your head?
Do you call in your Droogs to aid and abet what you think is a good cause .. someone broke a bottle over your head and you THINK you didn't deserve it?

And Your Jimmeh Cahtah gave us the CRA, that started the loan fiasco, opened the eyes and bravado of the evil entrepreneurs, that stole your 401k ...


No grasshopper ... you are indeed amiss in your findings.

169 posted on 01/15/2009 5:34:47 PM PST by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof ... but they're true.)
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To: silent_jonny

I walked in from work as he was speaking, after listening from the car. I was stricken by his facial demeanor - he looks positively at peace and - changed somehow. God bless him. We will miss him. He has been the “wind beneath our wings”.


170 posted on 01/15/2009 5:34:53 PM PST by SnarlinCubBear (Get Sarcasma - Comforting relief from the use of irony, mocking and conveying contempt)
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To: southernerwithanattitude
Its going to be a LONG 4 years!

It's going to be bad. It wouldn't be so bad, but the VP coming in is a loon. At least Bubba had, uh, oh and Carter had uh, oh, oo... Never mind, it's going to be a long 4 years!

171 posted on 01/15/2009 5:35:14 PM PST by Bushbacker1 (I'll miss President Bush greatly! Palin in 2012!)
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To: kristinn

WE will welcome Presidnet Bush and Mrs. Bush back home in Midland on January 20th at Centenial Plaza from 1 :00 to 4:00.

What a great man! Someday the world will learn it as well.


172 posted on 01/15/2009 5:35:19 PM PST by JFC
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To: dragnet2

You can thank the rotten to the core Republican congress for not standing with this man. When the liberals and msm attacked him every day, they protected their own asses and never spoke a word in defense of him, including the great (not) John McCain. They are paying the price today and I personally will NEVER give another dime to the Republican party for this very reason.


173 posted on 01/15/2009 5:35:20 PM PST by Toespi
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Chew on this Chrisy ‘Tingle’ Matthews - “Michael Costello: Left on the wrong side of history”
How has it happened that the Left of politics across the world has ended up opposing a foreign policy philosophy of spreading democracy in favour of supporting the traditional conservative agenda of stability, sovereignty and the status quo? Because that is what the Left is doing in its hostile reaction to George W. Bush’s second inaugural address.... Bush said in his second inaugural address: “The survival of liberty in our land increasingly depends on the success of liberty in other lands. So it is the policy of the United States to seek and support the growth of democratic movements and institutions in every nation and culture, with the ultimate goal of ending tyranny in our world.” This is resonant of John F. Kennedy in his inaugural address in 1961, when he said: “Let every nation know, whether it wishes us well or ill, that we shall pay any price, bear any burden, meet any hardship, support any friend, oppose any foe, in order to assure the survival and the success of liberty.” .... True, Bush and others are over-claiming progress and underestimating the dangers that lie ahead. We accept democracy as normal; it is not. Democracy is the most radical and revolutionary political idea in the world.... The key thing for those on the Left to understand is that intense dislike of Bush and echoes of Vietnam do not make a foreign policy. Bush, Donald Rumsfeld, Bolton - they too will pass. What will go on is the great human desire to be free, which should be at the core of our foreign policy. The great danger for the Left is that its Vietnam and Bush obsessions may mean that it will end up on the wrong side of history.


174 posted on 01/15/2009 5:35:37 PM PST by anglian
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To: Recovering Ex-hippie
Go over to DU or daily Kos...they will LOVE you!

Oh yes, if you don't agree with Bush, or apologize or make excuses for this utter disaster he's left behind, you must be liberal...

Gezzz

175 posted on 01/15/2009 5:35:44 PM PST by dragnet2
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To: LA Woman3

Yes, Thank you Mr. President for keeping this country safe.


176 posted on 01/15/2009 5:35:50 PM PST by southernerwithanattitude ({new and improved redneck})
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To: woofie

**God Bless W for all he did for us**

Once it was God BLESS America

Then it became God HELP America

now it’s

God, you Gave it your BEST SHOT


177 posted on 01/15/2009 5:36:24 PM PST by gwilhelm56 (Orwell's "1984" .. to Conservatives - a WARNING, to Liberals - a TEXTBOOK)
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To: silent_jonny; retrokitten
O'Rielly slithers on the screen. Back to the Andy Griffith Show.

LOL, Jonny (and you to, RK, for your 'taking a bath' post). We have much in common. I just can't take it anymore. Not from the left or the right. Most of what passes for news these days is so shallow and empty that it gives a new meaning to the word "transparent."

178 posted on 01/15/2009 5:36:51 PM PST by Wolfstar (This much I know is true, God blessed the broken road that led me straight to you.)
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To: AliVeritas; Shortstop7
That’s when he came down to Ground Zero, Ashley’s mom died there.

Actually, it's Ohio. Her Mom was lost at Ground Zero and the rest of the story:

President George W. Bush took Ashley Faulkner in his arms

179 posted on 01/15/2009 5:37:14 PM PST by CedarDave (Under Obama, yesterday's pork-laden earmarks have become tomorrow's economic stimulus projects)
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To: Dog

OH YES WE WILL SURVIVE. Thanks for that positive note Dog. The circus about to take over will not defeat us, in spite of all the dire forewarnings on FR.


180 posted on 01/15/2009 5:37:19 PM PST by SnarlinCubBear (Get Sarcasma - Comforting relief from the use of irony, mocking and conveying contempt)
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To: AGreatPer

Thanks for keeping us safe, President Bush! We will miss you and your fine V.P. Dick Cheney as well as your wonderful wife Laura!


181 posted on 01/15/2009 5:37:41 PM PST by sheikdetailfeather (Farewell President Bush!)
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To: AliVeritas

I missed it. I’m going to cry.


182 posted on 01/15/2009 5:37:55 PM PST by angcat ("When the strong man, fully armed, guards his own dwelling, his goods are safe".)
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To: kristinn

I agree, and am going to miss him. I only had the amnesty problem with him and the not pardoning the border agents Compean and Ramos. I wish them the best and I will continue to urge the Obama administration with the pardoning of these wrongly convicted agents.

I especially enjoyed Pres. Bush’s comment about ‘making difficult decisions’ and how at least he did make difficult decisions. It reminded me of Obama’s voting record in the Senate, you know, his voting ‘present’ really was not making important decisions concerning legislation.


183 posted on 01/15/2009 5:38:03 PM PST by LallyG (Vote for Real Change in 2012)
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To: Toespi
I am with you. I already called the RNC and told them they failed this man, and not to bother to call me for money.

I told them all of my money was going to the Bush Library at SMU.

184 posted on 01/15/2009 5:39:06 PM PST by Miss Marple
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To: kristinn
I can not imagine our Nation with al gore in charge on 911. Thanks to the President for protecting our Nation since that dreadful day.

I would also like to thank the Vice President for being a strong supporter of our President. I also thank the Vice President would have made a great President, God forbid of course.

Also, a big thanks goes out to our First Lady. Laura Bush help bring back some dignity, honor, respect, and class to the White House.

May God bless the President and his family, the Vice President and his family, and our Troops.

185 posted on 01/15/2009 5:39:45 PM PST by do the dhue (They've got us surrounded again. The poor bastards. - One of General Abram's men)
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To: Purrcival
I sent him a card on Monday. Hope he gets it before they leave. Sent him one on 9/11 last year also - and a Christmas card.

God bless President Bush and his family. You will be missed.

186 posted on 01/15/2009 5:39:56 PM PST by Churchillspirit
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To: MBB1984

I love George W. Bush and have for 20 plus years. I know him and he is a man of honor, courage and a man who is at peace with his 8 years in office. The media and the left have made him out to be a mad stupid person. He is far from either. So yes, you can call me a Bushbot!


187 posted on 01/15/2009 5:41:26 PM PST by JFC
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To: retrokitten

I was balling at the end. Especially thinking about how maligned this man has been by our media and the democrats. I honestly feel nothing but hatred for most of them now. The fact that they have dragged me down to that level just makes me hate them more....lol.

God Bless you President Bush! My family is eternally grateful for your steadfastness and honor in protecting our country since 911! May the good Lord smile on you and bring you and your family his blessings and grace for the rest of your life.


188 posted on 01/15/2009 5:41:38 PM PST by penelopesire ("The only CHANGE you will get with the Democrats is the CHANGE left in your pocket")
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To: Purrcival
Is there a way that we can write to President Bush and thank him?

Soon -- perhaps in a month or two -- there will be an office for him, probably in the Dallas area since I belive that's where George and Laura are going to live. You might consider keeping an eye on the Dallas Morning News website in case they indicate where the office will be located.

189 posted on 01/15/2009 5:41:59 PM PST by Wolfstar (This much I know is true, God blessed the broken road that led me straight to you.)
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To: SnarlinCubBear
He has been the "wind beneath our wings"

Beautifully put.

190 posted on 01/15/2009 5:43:06 PM PST by Churchillspirit
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To: silent_jonny

It’ll be interesting to see what happens when they no longer have Bush to blame. Every bad thing that happens will be because “it’s how Bush left it for Obama”.

That sorry excuse for a President will be untouchable and unchecked. He will do no wrong.

I just pray that if Obama is tested by the world, and he will be, it will not cost another 3,000 American lives.


191 posted on 01/15/2009 5:43:06 PM PST by conservativebabe (sexual mint CHOCOLATE chip)
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To: dragnet2
Bush's legacy is Obama, a destroyed Republican party, a violent illegal invasion that he aided and abetted and publicly encouraged..Not to mention a smoldering economy at the bottom of a crater..

Take a look at the part of the glass that has content once in a while you wanton for crisis, lacking of appreciation, and hateful "hack".

192 posted on 01/15/2009 5:43:19 PM PST by EGPWS (Trust in God, Question everyone else)
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To: retrokitten

LOL! I hear ya.

Maybe it’ll be like Bobby Ewing and it will have all been a dream!


193 posted on 01/15/2009 5:43:55 PM PST by conservativebabe (sexual mint CHOCOLATE chip)
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To: EGPWS
You gaze into the glass, I'll stick with reality, thanks.

Hateful hack? LOL!

194 posted on 01/15/2009 5:45:37 PM PST by dragnet2
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To: dragnet2

I don’t think anyone who admires President Bush owes ANY of his critics any accommodation on interpretation. I think we should interpret Bush critics the way they interpreted President Bush.

What this would mean is that if we have any ideal in mind which your criticism does not fulfill 100% we should act like absolute jerks and attack you in a visceral direct manner that implicates you as a moral void. If there is anything that we personally desire and your comments do not immediately satiate or quench that desire then we can accuse you of any manner of moral desertion. I think we have learned a lot these past six years about criticism.

Does that sound like a fair arrangement dragnet?


195 posted on 01/15/2009 5:46:14 PM PST by lonestar67 (Its time to withdraw from the War on Bush-- your side is hopelessly lost in a quagmire.)
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To: AliVeritas; Shortstop7
The TV ad that put Bush over the top
196 posted on 01/15/2009 5:46:55 PM PST by CedarDave (Under Obama, yesterday's pork-laden earmarks have become tomorrow's economic stimulus projects)
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To: dragnet2

Just couldn’t give it 20 minutes... I heard at least four people mentioned as examples of great Americans, hence, not all about him.

Did he do anything you approved of?

re: your list

The party
What does he have to do with congress having no balls?

illegal aliens
If you were paying attention, he was the same way in Texas, before he came to D.C. (and we know illegals just started coming when he swore in).

economy
Did you complain about the first six years of his term?
(don’t answer, i’m sure you did); Now add 9/11 and fighting two wars... while we on the mainland felt sacrifice didn’t apply to us (as in WWII), and bitched about every other thing except how you felt when the first planes went back up that day... and what you thought when you heard them.

I look forward to your run in 2012... and your happiness with the Obama administration. Now you’ll see a destroyed country, an islamist invasion, another smoldering whole in one of our great cities and some real big government spending. I know, Bush’s fault.


197 posted on 01/15/2009 5:49:16 PM PST by AliVeritas (Prayers for Israel.)
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To: dragnet2
WOW...It's all about my legacy... Good grief! Bush's legacy is Obama, a destroyed Republican party, a violent illegal invasion that he aided and abetted and publicly encouraged..Not to mention a smoldering economy at the bottom of a crater.. ------------------------------------

Michael SavageWeiner(sp) is that you?

198 posted on 01/15/2009 5:50:03 PM PST by yield 2 the right
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To: Wolfstar; STARWISE; retrokitten; conservativebabe; DrDeb
Hi, Wolfstar

makes me hope that one day the shield will be on display in the George W. Bush Presidential Library and Museum.

I'm sure it will be.

Come to think of it, there may be more historic items in his library than there are in most others.

He has the bullhorn that he spoke with at ground zero. Bob Beckwith, the retired fireman that stood by his side when he said "I can hear YOU!", visited the White House and gave the bullhorn to the President personally.


President George W. Bush welcomes retired New York firefighter Bob Beckwith and his wife Barbara to the Oval Office Feb. 25 [2002]. Mr. Beckwith and New York Governor George Pataki visited the White House to present the President with the bullhorn the President used to talk with recovery workers during a visit to the World Trade Center Sept. 14, 2001.

President Bush also has the Texas Lonestar patch that Marcus Luttrell, the Lone Survivor of SEAL Team 10, wore while he was serving in Afghanistan.

From the book LONE SURVIVOR:

And then he [President Bush] saw me glance at his desk, and on it was the battle patch that I'd asked Admiral Mullin to present to him. The president grinned and said, "Remember this?"

"Yessir." Did I ever remember it. I'd hidden that baby in my Afghan trousers, just to make sure those Taliban bastards didn't get it. And now here it was again, right on the desk of the president of the United States, the Lone Star of Texas, battle worn but still there.

We talked privately for a few minutes, and it was clear to me, President Bush knew all about the firefight on Murphy's Ridge [named after fallen SEAL and Medal of Honor recipient Michael Murphy]. And indeed how I had managed to get out of there.

At the end of our chat, I reached over and picked up the patch, just for old times' sake. And the president suddenly said, in that rich Texan accent, "Now you put that down, boy! That doesn't belong to you anymore."

We both laughed, and he told me my former battle patch was going to his future museum.

As I left the Oval Office he told me, "Anything you need, Marcus. That's anything. You call me right here, on that phone, understand?"

"Yessir." And it still felt to me like two Texans meeting for the first time. One of 'em kinda paternal, understanding. The other absolutely awestruck in the presence of a very great United States presidnt, and my commander in chief.


199 posted on 01/15/2009 5:50:15 PM PST by silent_jonny
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To: Texas Songwriter
You obviously did not watch Chris Matthews spew his hatred.

I accidentally changed channels after the speech and sat there with my mouth open before vowing to NEVER WATCH HIS SHOW AGAIN.

I will write him asking how he can criticize a man who followed his principles rather than be guided by the whims and opinions of others. This is the same man who two months ago condemned Hillary for using her husband coattails to have come as far as she did and didn't have the experience to run for President. Whereas today, he commented how truly courageous she was risking ridicule after the Lewinsky saga to run for the NY Senate seat, and to have won the seat ON HER OWN MERITS.

200 posted on 01/15/2009 5:50:33 PM PST by StarFan
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