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Lt. Starbuck … Lost In Castration.
Big Hollywood ^ | January 19, 2009 | Dirk Benedict

Posted on 01/20/2009 8:30:14 AM PST by EveningStar

Once upon a time, in what used to be a far away land called Hollywood (but is now a state of mind and everywhere), a young actor was handed a script and asked to bring to life a character called Starbuck. I am that actor. The script was called “Battlestar Galactica.”

Fortunately, I was young, my imagination fertile and adrenal glands strong, because bringing Starbuck to life was over the dead imaginations of a lot of Network Executives...

Witness the “re-imagined” “Battlestar Galactica,” bleak, miserable, despairing, angry and confused. Which is to say, it reflects in microcosm the complete change in the politics and morality of today’s world, as opposed to the world of yesterday. The world of Lorne Greene (Adama), Fred Astaire (Starbuck’s Poppa) and Dirk Benedict (Starbuck). I would guess Lorne is glad he’s in that Big Bonanza in the sky and well out of it. Starbuck, alas, has not been so lucky. He’s not been left to pass quietly into that trivial world of cancelled TV characters...

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial
KEYWORDS: battlestargalactica; bighollywood; dirkbenedict; feminism; hollywood; liberalism; marenjensen; starbuck
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The original BSG really wasn't very good. I understand the "re-imagined" version is vastly superior. I wouldn't know. I've never seen it. When they decided to be politically correct and "re-imagine" Starbuck and Boomer into women, I immediately wrote them off.
1 posted on 01/20/2009 8:30:15 AM PST by EveningStar
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To: KevinDavis; Borges; dighton

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2 posted on 01/20/2009 8:31:52 AM PST by EveningStar
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To: EveningStar

I was a kid when the original was on - I LOVED it. The new BSG sucks. Granted, there are hot women on the new version, no doubt, but that’s the only thing the new has over the old.

Just my opinion, of course.


3 posted on 01/20/2009 8:36:24 AM PST by GOPsterinMA (Obama/Biden...change you can laugh at!)
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To: EveningStar

Actually, I have to say that the new BSG is vastly superior and fantastically well done.


4 posted on 01/20/2009 8:36:52 AM PST by farlander (Sic Semper Tyrannis)
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To: EveningStar

the series is excellent. if you’d rather look at some douche bag guy than than the actresses playing Starbuck and Boomer, well, that’s your problem


5 posted on 01/20/2009 8:37:04 AM PST by MoreGovLess (Seek justice, love kindness, walk humbly with your God (Micah))
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To: EveningStar
When they decided to be politically correct and "re-imagine" Starbuck and Boomer into women, I immediately wrote them off.

You are imagining political correctness where there is none and you are allowing your prejudice to keep you from the single best show on television.
6 posted on 01/20/2009 8:37:32 AM PST by Filo (Darwin was right!)
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To: al baby; Auntbee; BJClinton; Dashing Dasher; dfwddr; exile; Feiny; Finger Monkey; Fintan; ...

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7 posted on 01/20/2009 8:38:14 AM PST by EveningStar
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To: EveningStar
The original BSG really wasn't very good. I understand the "re-imagined" version is vastly superior.

The blue screen, computer generated background was not available. Makes all the difference.

9 posted on 01/20/2009 8:40:07 AM PST by org.whodat (Conservatives don't vote for Bailouts for Super-Rich Bankers! Republicans do!)
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To: EveningStar

LOL. Serious commentary from Face? He was much better in the A team.


10 posted on 01/20/2009 8:40:07 AM PST by dmz
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To: EveningStar
Witness the “re-imagined” “Battlestar Galactica,” bleak, miserable, despairing, angry and confused.

Well, if 99.99% of the human race were wiped out and you're one of the few survivors I would expect it to be bleak, miserable, despairing, angry and confused.

Also, Starbuck version 2.0 could kick Starbuck-classic's butt every day of the week and twice on Sunday.

11 posted on 01/20/2009 8:40:43 AM PST by KarlInOhio (On 9/11 Israel mourned with us while the Palestinians danced in the streets. Who should we support?)
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To: EveningStar

Leave it Starbuck to smoke a cigar while checking for Solium leaks.


12 posted on 01/20/2009 8:41:08 AM PST by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
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To: farlander

Disagree, it is a confused muddle IMO, they attempted to make “Lost” but with BSG as the vehicle.

Now production values are better but that is a matter of the Technology not so much the plot lines.


13 posted on 01/20/2009 8:41:15 AM PST by padre35 (You shall not ignore the laws of God, the Market, the Jungle, and Reciprocity Rm10.10)
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To: EveningStar

Dirk still ticked about Starbuck being a girl? Or ticked because he wasn’t invited to the new party like Richard Hatch was?


14 posted on 01/20/2009 8:41:58 AM PST by Domandred (Hope is the first step on the road to disappointment.)
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To: EveningStar

The new BSG has its moments, but it is boring as all feminine things are. I’m suprised that the show just doesn’t end with everyone just giving up and taking a handful of tranquilizers.


15 posted on 01/20/2009 8:42:00 AM PST by junta (Not even respectable mainstream conservatives can save liberalism.)
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Its TV. Its not real. The stories are decent and the actors are pretty good. The effects are well done.

But, its TV.

Jeeze.....


16 posted on 01/20/2009 8:42:12 AM PST by Vermont Lt (I am not from Vermont. I lived there for four years and that was enough.)
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To: puffer

Watch the last 5 seasons of DS9. It was actually the conservative star trek.


17 posted on 01/20/2009 8:42:43 AM PST by Crazieman (Feb 7, 2008 http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1966675/posts?page=28#28)
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To: EveningStar
"Witness the “re-imagined” “Battlestar Galactica blog by ex-Galactica star Dirk Benedict ,” bleak, miserable, despairing, angry and confused.

Fixed it. For some reason Benedict has a big 'ol burr up his arse about the new show which is so far suprior to the original a comparison of the two is not apples to oranges but apples to wax fruit.

18 posted on 01/20/2009 8:43:07 AM PST by Bob J
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To: puffer
I could go on and on. Star Trek the original was great because there were all sorts of people there who were chosen because they were the best, today, the gays and libs just want to bring their view of reality into our homes, where women, gays and minorities run everything, and the rest of us take a back seat. The only place where something like this exists is on film.

True, but it wasn't restricted to just sci-fi, all the silly detective stories as well. Only on film does a little 5 foot 110 pound average woman kick a six foot 200 pound man ass.

19 posted on 01/20/2009 8:43:27 AM PST by org.whodat (Conservatives don't vote for Bailouts for Super-Rich Bankers! Republicans do!)
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To: EveningStar

Benedict is just bitter cause Kara Thrace has a bigger set than his Starbuck ever had.

The series is much better than the original. If anything, it is very true to the underlying story of the original while telling a story of tragedy and loss.


20 posted on 01/20/2009 8:43:38 AM PST by MediaMole
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To: EveningStar

bump for later read


21 posted on 01/20/2009 8:43:52 AM PST by Bender2 ("I've got a twisted sense of humor, and everything amuses me." RAH Beyond this Horizon)
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To: EveningStar

“Faceman” knocks it out of the park! Bookmarked, and thanks for posting this article.

> The original BSG really wasn’t very good.

It depends what “not very good” means. At the time it was excellent, coming right on the heels of Star Wars (the original one, what is it called now? #4??) By today’s standards Star Wars wasn’t particularly good either, but back then it was mind-blowing stuff...


22 posted on 01/20/2009 8:44:06 AM PST by DieHard the Hunter (Is mise an ceann-cinnidh. Cha ghéill mi do dhuine. Fàg am bealach.)
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To: EveningStar

In Space, Everyone Has Disco Feathered Hair™.

23 posted on 01/20/2009 8:44:32 AM PST by martin_fierro (< |:)~)
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To: EveningStar

I remember theold one as a kid and loved it, too. I sort of like the new one but it is depressing. Those people are messed up and then they get to Earth and it’s a burned out cinder (well, at least the part they land on).


24 posted on 01/20/2009 8:44:40 AM PST by Cheesel (The Ark was built by amateurs, the Titanic by professionals.)
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To: Bob J
,” bleak, miserable, despairing, angry and confused.

He has that part correct!!

25 posted on 01/20/2009 8:45:00 AM PST by org.whodat (Conservatives don't vote for Bailouts for Super-Rich Bankers! Republicans do!)
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To: EveningStar; KevinDavis
“A reluctant hero who found humor in the bleakest of situations.”

Exactly what the bleak and despairing current BSG lacks and needs but can and will never have.

26 posted on 01/20/2009 8:45:07 AM PST by BenLurkin (Mornie utulie. Mornie alantie.)
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To: Filo

Well said, and accurate.


27 posted on 01/20/2009 8:45:41 AM PST by Lee'sGhost (Johnny Rico picked the wrong girl!)
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To: Allegra; Old Sarge; SunkenCiv
NOT a

MANGLED GENITALS PING

28 posted on 01/20/2009 8:45:49 AM PST by martin_fierro (Made you look)
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To: junta

Besides no one really wants to live save for a few episodes that focus on some nihilistic sexual relations. The comments on the SciFi channel’s bulletin boards elicit about a 50/50 split agreeing in part with Mr. Benedict’s assesment.


29 posted on 01/20/2009 8:46:27 AM PST by junta (Not even respectable mainstream conservatives can save liberalism.)
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To: EveningStar
As a fan of the old and the new, I must say the new one is slipping a bit, but as long as Lucy Lawless is on, I'll be watching. I have no idea what her character is, I just like to stare at her.
30 posted on 01/20/2009 8:47:15 AM PST by BallyBill (Serial Hit-N-Run poster)
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To: EveningStar
I don't know what your definition of “Good” is. Was it a critical star? Probably not. Was it extremely fun to watch? Absolutely.
32 posted on 01/20/2009 8:48:01 AM PST by ontap (Just another backstabbing conservative)
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To: GOPsterinMA

I was a kid when the original was on - I LOVED it...Granted, there are hot women on the new version, no doubt, but that’s the only thing the new has over the old.

...Jane Seymour, Laurette Spang ,and Maren Jensen were pretty damn hot ......


33 posted on 01/20/2009 8:50:46 AM PST by Le Chien Rouge
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To: puffer
How can you forget:
34 posted on 01/20/2009 8:51:34 AM PST by freedumb2003 (Prepare for the new fuhrer -- Communism finally overtakes the USA)
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To: Vermont Lt

I cut the cable umbilical cord 10 years ago and I’m never going back. TV is a colossal waste of time. The only thing I miss is wasting an entire Sunday watching NFL games (with BBQ and beer).
So I’ve shifted my time-wasting to sites like this.

PS. Anybody know how to get the NFL on the internet for cheap?


35 posted on 01/20/2009 8:51:40 AM PST by GunsAndBibles (God save Calif. - 'cause it's gonna take a miracle.)
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To: GOPsterinMA
Dirk defined the role of Starbuck. He had the perfect combination of joie de vivre, "flyboy" mentality with the sangfroid of a combat pilot.

The single worst aspect of the new version was the substitution of a dike-like "uber-woman." Pure Hollywood BS feminism with a hint of GLBT thrown in.

Of all the cast in the original, admittedly banal and cheesy series, Dirk stood out with his interpretation of Starbuck.

BTW there were some fine women in the original series, Maren Jensen and Laurette Spang come to mind (not Ann Lockhart though). I like Edward James Olmos better than Lorne Green, but Lorne had the duel role of military and spiritual leader.

Basically I liked most of the original...could have done without Boxy and the robot dog though.
36 posted on 01/20/2009 8:52:19 AM PST by Sudetenland (Those diplomats serve best, who serve as cannon fodder to protect our troops!)
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To: junta
I’m suprised that the show just doesn’t end with everyone just giving up and taking a handful of tranquilizers.

You obviously didn't watch last Friday's show (first of final ten episodes). They might be done cleaning Dee's brains off the wall by now.
37 posted on 01/20/2009 8:53:32 AM PST by OCCASparky (Steely-Eyed Killer of the Deep)
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“Benedict is just bitter cause Kara Thrace has a bigger set than his Starbuck ever had.”

Yep... and he made a BIG mistake by having a little short film with Katee Sackhoff in a coffee house and handing her a “official” Starbuck cigar to her to pass of the Baton before the first film.

Dirk has his point about BSG.. but I still like the new series as something separate from the old. Just like I all the flavors of the Star Trek but still like the original the best.

38 posted on 01/20/2009 8:55:07 AM PST by Kitanis
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To: EveningStar
I kept hearing about how great the new Battlestar Galatica was. I watched it, and tried to like it. Really, I did. I've always liked Edward James Olmos, and some of the new (and old) characters intrigued me. For instance, I was not turned off by a "Female Starbuck".

But, even with trying, I just couldn't get into the series. While the old one was campy and fun, the new one just took itself far too seriously.

39 posted on 01/20/2009 8:55:32 AM PST by wbill
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To: MediaMole

What do you expect from a dike. Benedict was the epitome of a “fly-boy.” She’s just a lesbian in drag.


40 posted on 01/20/2009 8:56:13 AM PST by Sudetenland (Those diplomats serve best, who serve as cannon fodder to protect our troops!)
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To: puffer
I just read a novel (got it for free, mind you--didn't purchase the darn thing) called The Whiskey Rebels. It has exactly this same trope going on. The main character was a drunken former Revolutionary War spy with a high opinion of himself. But you find out as you move through the novel that he's being manipulated by all the other characters. The heroes were as follows: a Jewish assassin, a black slave, two homosexual frontiersmen, and a woman who happens to be smart enough to nearly take down the early American financial system with no money.

The evil characters are all white males.

Think Hollyweird and big publishing are trying to tell us something??

I don't care how "good" the entertainment value of this stuff is, if you're watching or purchasing it, you're contributing to people who want to destroy you--and you are showing yourself to be contemptible enough to be worthy of destruction.
41 posted on 01/20/2009 8:57:15 AM PST by Antoninus (America didn't turn away from conservatism, they turned away from many who faked it. - Mark Sanford)
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To: springtime4hillary; Crazieman

I think part of the later season improvements in DS9 were due to competition with B5, they had to get edgier and introduce a long term plotline just to not get steamrolled.

I’m re-watching B5 on DVD right now, and it seems even darker given the tilt of politics today.


42 posted on 01/20/2009 8:57:48 AM PST by Tijeras_Slim
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To: Sudetenland; Le Chien Rouge

True! And the ladies in original were hot!

I think the cheesy-ness of the original gave it it’s charm, IMO.


43 posted on 01/20/2009 8:58:19 AM PST by GOPsterinMA (Obama/Biden...change you can laugh at!)
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To: EveningStar

I bet the original Starbuck misses those swift costumes he got to wear playing that ball game.


44 posted on 01/20/2009 8:59:23 AM PST by stuartcr (If the end doesn't justify the means...why have different means?)
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To: stylecouncilor; raven92876

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45 posted on 01/20/2009 8:59:56 AM PST by windcliff
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To: farlander
Actually, I have to say that the new BSG is vastly superior and fantastically well done.

It was for about the first season, and then it crashed and burned for every reason that Benedict described. The moral ambiguity is the worst. The queers in Hollywood couldn't stand to have clearly defined good and evil, even when one of the sides tried to annihilate the other by way of a nuclear sneak attack. That's what makes that show now unwatchable. They even had an episode where the humans had the perfect opportunity to wipe out all the Cylons at once by use of some kind of virus, but one of the wussy male pilots decided that we just didn't "have the right to arbitrarily wipe out a whole species". Never mind the fact that the Cylons tried to do exactly that to humans and were almost successful and never mind that the Cylons are freaking machines. It's disgusting.
46 posted on 01/20/2009 9:00:31 AM PST by fr_freak
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To: KarlInOhio
Also, Starbuck version 2.0 could kick Starbuck-classic's butt every day of the week and twice on Sunday.

Only in Hollywood can some 5'6" little girl kick a guy's ass in a fist fight. In the rest of the universe, she would get knocked around like a rag doll.
48 posted on 01/20/2009 9:04:05 AM PST by fr_freak
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To: EveningStar
The original Battlestar was great. And that's a great essay.

I watch very little TV. I'm into this season's 24 and I liked the first season of Heroes (then it went to crap).

49 posted on 01/20/2009 9:04:12 AM PST by Tribune7 (Obama wants to put the same crowd that ran Fannie Mae in charge of health care)
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To: EveningStar
They should have just made a completely new series instead of stealing the title, names and loosly the theme. I might have enjoyed it, had they been more original. I am an old BSG fan from childhood. It was light hearted and fun. Something 8 to 30 somethings could watch.

This series was too dark for even my teenagers to watch. sad.

50 posted on 01/20/2009 9:06:34 AM PST by FreeAtlanta (Join the Constitution Party)
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