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France targets Coca-Cola in escalating 'cheese wars'
The Telegraph ^ | 1/21/2009 | Henry Samuel in Paris

Posted on 01/21/2009 3:33:17 PM PST by bruinbirdman

The French government is facing calls to slap a massive import tax on Coca-Cola in retaliation for punitive American duties levelled on the salty, blue-veined, sheep cheese roquefort.

The American measures were taken as part of a trade dispute, now known as "cheese wars", in which the Bush administration took action against the European Union's ban on imports of US hormone-treated beef.

Last week, America imposed a 100 per cent import duty on a long list of EU products, but singled roquefort out for a 300 per cent tariff.

"Symbol versus symbol," said Philippe Folliot, a French member of parliament whose Tarn constituency contains many roquefort producers. "Since the United States has decided to surtax one of the most ancient (cheese) appellations, I think that the French government, with the European Union, must think about a heavy specific tax on imports of Coca-Cola concentrates produced in the US."

In a letter to George W Bush's successor, Barack Obama, Mr Folliot called on the newly inaugurated US president to remove the "shocking" roquefort duty, which, he said "uselessly stigmatises an already fragile sector."

Producers of what the French hail as the "king of cheeses" from the Massif Central, southern France, say the rise is tantamount to an "embargo" on roquefort exports to their third biggest market. Roquefort makers export about 420 tons a year, or 2.5 percent of their total production, to the US.

The latest action has been slammed as a parting shot by Mr Bush, who is still thought to be piqued by France's opposition to the 2003 Iraq war.

The move was seen in France as a lame-duck president's final revenge against a nation once maligned as "cheese-eating surrender monkeys" in the cartoon programme The Simpsons.

The EU banned growth hormones on European farms more

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1 posted on 01/21/2009 3:33:18 PM PST by bruinbirdman
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To: bruinbirdman

So what about Obama?


2 posted on 01/21/2009 3:35:15 PM PST by SolidWood (Sarah Palin - America the Beautiful)
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To: SolidWood

Wasn’t protectionism one of the things that made the Great Depression worse? If so, it looks like we are headed for ‘deja vu all over again’.


3 posted on 01/21/2009 3:37:51 PM PST by NRG1973
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To: bruinbirdman

France knows perfectly well that Coca-Cola sales in France are many hundreds or even thousands of times the value of French Roquefort sales in the USA.

If any such punitive tariff is imposed on Coca-Cola there, I hope Obama places a 200% tariff on all French goods sold here, with 500% on wines (including Champagne), cheeses and automobiles.

We can live without the French for a few years.


4 posted on 01/21/2009 3:38:16 PM PST by pogo101
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To: bruinbirdman

I prefer nacho cheese on my Freedom Fries anyhow.


5 posted on 01/21/2009 3:38:48 PM PST by Billthedrill
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To: bruinbirdman

I don’t see what the big deal is. If Coca-Cola looks like it’s going under, they can just ask for a taxpayer bailout. No problem.


6 posted on 01/21/2009 3:44:31 PM PST by D_Idaho ("For we wrestle not against flesh and blood...")
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To: pogo101

France is in the EU, which is a trading bloc, so the US can’t embargo goods from France without embargoing the entire EU. The EU is the world’s largest market, and frankly, considering the economic circumstances, neither the US or the EU can afford a pathetic tit-for-tat trade war at a time of increasing difficulties and rising unemployment. The politicians need to grow up.....


7 posted on 01/21/2009 3:48:56 PM PST by sinsofsolarempirefan
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To: Toddsterpatriot; Mase; expat_panama

Actions have consequences. (Or so the protectionists tell us the opposite).


8 posted on 01/21/2009 3:49:28 PM PST by 1rudeboy
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To: Billthedrill

Ack.


9 posted on 01/21/2009 3:50:50 PM PST by PurpleMan
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To: bruinbirdman

Free the cheese.


10 posted on 01/21/2009 3:52:18 PM PST by muleskinner ("You know the Germans always make good stuff')
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To: bruinbirdman

When the EU banned volcanic goat cheese, there was no longer any need to import European cheese.


11 posted on 01/21/2009 3:52:57 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: PurpleMan

I also like a slice of pepper-jack on my Freedom Dip Sandwich. Maybe some sauteed onyums. Yeah...


12 posted on 01/21/2009 3:53:02 PM PST by Billthedrill
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To: Billthedrill
"I prefer nacho cheese on my Freedom Fries anyhow."

There are no more Freedom Fries. They are now called Dear Leader Frites.

13 posted on 01/21/2009 3:53:20 PM PST by Truth29
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To: sinsofsolarempirefan

Here’s an idea - get the Germans to shut the French up, put a 800% duty on EU cars.


14 posted on 01/21/2009 3:53:41 PM PST by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: bruinbirdman

“Mister we could use a man like Herbert Hoover again”


15 posted on 01/21/2009 3:54:39 PM PST by Doohickey (The more cynical you become, the better off you'll be.)
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To: Billthedrill

Cheese Wiz on my Philly Cheesesteak is ok.


16 posted on 01/21/2009 4:10:33 PM PST by PurpleMan
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To: sinsofsolarempirefan

I’m not talking about an embargo; I’m talking about meeting an outrageous (proposed) French tariff on Coca-Cola (syrup) imports with an equally onerous counter-tariff, in hopes that both sides will eventually back down, once they “grow up,” as you put it.

I don’t agree, however, that the USA should simply “bend over and take it” — that is, do nothing in response — if France indeed imposes the Coca-Cola tariff as threatened.

The real underlying problem is the European ban on beef that isn’t hippy-greenie.


17 posted on 01/21/2009 4:25:13 PM PST by pogo101
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To: pogo101
It's a toothless tariff that France is imposing.

If you read the quote:

"Symbol versus symbol," said Philippe Folliot, a French member of parliament whose Tarn constituency contains many roquefort producers. "Since the United States has decided to surtax one of the most ancient (cheese) appellations, I think that the French government, with the European Union, must think about a heavy specific tax on imports of Coca-Cola concentrates produced in the US."

Coca-Cola produces it's European products IN EUROPE. So there isn't any 'import' to levy the tariff on.

:-)

18 posted on 01/21/2009 4:47:24 PM PST by gogogodzilla (Live free or die!)
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To: pogo101; sinsofsolarempirefan

French deserve far worse than this. I say ban french foods from entering america. They’re no friends of ours and there’s no reason to pretend otherwise.


19 posted on 01/21/2009 4:47:32 PM PST by mamelukesabre (Si Vis Pacem Para Bellum (If you want peace prepare for war))
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To: Doohickey

We did have Herbert Hoover, whose stupid policies worsened the banking problem; his name was Bush 43. Now we have FDR with a slight tan.


20 posted on 01/21/2009 4:50:07 PM PST by flushing_kenny (One by one, I will stop the motors of the world)
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To: bruinbirdman

Actually, I agree with the European position on hormones in cattle. There is no need for it. I already pay a bit of a premium to get steaks that are hormone free and its probably better to steer clear of chemical steer.

Some antibiotics are ok, but only if the animal was sick. Otherwise, there is no reason to force feed drugs to animals unless they are raised in unhealthy conditions. In that case, I don’t want that meat and would rather get grass-fed (not corn silage) Angus. Or heritage pork (yum yum yum).


21 posted on 01/21/2009 4:53:29 PM PST by flushing_kenny (One by one, I will stop the motors of the world)
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To: flushing_kenny

Yeah, that line from the All in the Family theme was intended to be a Smooth-Hawley reference.


22 posted on 01/21/2009 6:58:57 PM PST by Doohickey (The more cynical you become, the better off you'll be.)
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To: 1rudeboy
Coca-Cola doesn't manufacture machinery, so who cares if they're punished?
23 posted on 01/21/2009 7:20:25 PM PST by Toddsterpatriot (Will the doomers ever buy a calculator?)
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To: NRG1973

Since there is a ban on American meat...I guess France started it...good for Bush. I am sick of American getting creamed because of unfair trade policy.


24 posted on 01/21/2009 7:22:53 PM PST by bronxboy
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To: flushing_kenny

This is a ploy...the beef industry offered certified hormone free beef...France still won’t do it.


25 posted on 01/21/2009 7:24:01 PM PST by bronxboy
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To: sinsofsolarempirefan

EU is not the biggest market...we are and should not allow the unfair trade policies that now exist.


26 posted on 01/21/2009 7:25:18 PM PST by bronxboy
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To: bronxboy

No, the EU is the largest market in the world. The difference is unimportant however, both the EU and the US need each other economically and this is exactly the wrong time to be having a trade war....


27 posted on 01/21/2009 8:13:44 PM PST by sinsofsolarempirefan
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To: Doohickey

"In 1930, the Republican-controlled House of Representatives, in an effort to alleviate the effects of the... Anyone? Anyone?... the Great Depression, passed the... Anyone? Anyone? The tariff bill? The Hawley-Smoot Tariff Act? Which, anyone? Raised or lowered?... raised tariffs, in an effort to collect more revenue for the federal government. Did it work? Anyone? Anyone know the effects? It did not work, and the United States sank deeper into the Great Depression. Today we have a similar debate over this. Anyone know what this is? Class? Anyone? Anyone? Anyone seen this before? The Laffer Curve. Anyone know what this says? It says that at this point on the revenue curve, you will get exactly the same amount of revenue as at this point. This is very controversial. Does anyone know what Vice President Bush called this in 1980? Anyone? Something-d-o-o economics. "Voodoo" economics."

28 posted on 01/21/2009 8:17:02 PM PST by dfwgator (1996 2006 2008 - Good Things Come in Threes)
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To: gogogodzilla

The finished product isn’t imported, but the syrup used to make it is...


29 posted on 01/21/2009 8:21:09 PM PST by sinsofsolarempirefan
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To: sinsofsolarempirefan

Perhaps the EU should have thought about this...before they started one. They already lost at the WTO...Canada has slapped a tarif on them also. You trade or not, but you can’t have your cake and eat it too.

[W]e find that the European Communities did not actually proceed to an assessment, within the meaning of Articles 5.1 and 5.2, of the risks arising from the failure of observance of good veterinary practice combined with problems of control of the use of hormones for growth promotion purposes. The abscence of such risk assessment, when considered in conjunction with the conclusion actually reached by most, if not all, of the scientific studies relating to the other aspects of risk noted earlier, leads us to the conclusion that no risk assessment that reasonably supports or warrants the import prohibition embodied in the EC Directives was furnished to the Panel. We affirm, therefore, the ultimate conclusions of the Panel that the EC import prohibition is not based on a risk assessment within the meaning of Articles 5.1 and 5.2 of the SPS Agreement and is, therefore, inconsistent with the requirements of Article 5.1.


30 posted on 01/21/2009 8:31:19 PM PST by bronxboy
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To: sinsofsolarempirefan

If there truly is a free market...not that I have seen evidence of one-then let French consumers decide. If they don’t buy the meat then no point in sending it...however, illegal tariffs must be confronted.


31 posted on 01/21/2009 8:36:30 PM PST by bronxboy
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To: sinsofsolarempirefan

Also, it’s always the wrong time to have a trade war...which is why EU and others get away with it...in a recession eating American cheese is not a bad thing.


32 posted on 01/21/2009 9:00:07 PM PST by bronxboy
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To: sinsofsolarempirefan

Hmm, I thought that Coca-Cola produced the syrup locally.

Then it looks like the tariff actually has teeth.


33 posted on 01/22/2009 4:50:35 AM PST by gogogodzilla (Live free or die!)
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