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Two US Warships Escort Iranian Ship Carrying Arms for Hamas Out Through Suez Canal
Debkafiles ^ | January 23, 2009, 6:06 PM (GMT+02:00)

Posted on 01/23/2009 2:24:49 PM PST by lewisglad

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To: lewisglad

Here’s one quote from Obama...

“The outline for a durable ceasefire is clear: Hamas must end its rocket fire: Israel will complete the withdrawal of its forces from Gaza: the US and our partners will support a credible anti-smuggling and interdiction regime, so that Hamas cannot re-arm,” the US president said.

http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/7cf745dc-e8ce-11dd-a4d0-0000779fd2ac.html?nclick_check=1


21 posted on 01/23/2009 2:58:17 PM PST by Star Traveler
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To: lewisglad; COBOL2Java

GWB’s last act, and we let the ship go, despite the fact that it was carrying an illegal arms shipment. Bound for Syria they said, to kill American’s in Iraq, but apparently the UN didn’t authorize us to confiscate arms, so we let it go. Guess Iran can ship what they want from here on out.


22 posted on 01/23/2009 2:58:26 PM PST by SJackson (The American people are wise in wanting change, 2 terms is plenty, Condi Rice)
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To: max americana

got it in one


23 posted on 01/23/2009 2:58:49 PM PST by manc (Marriage is between a man and a woman no sick MA,CT sham marriage end racism end affirmative action)
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To: Paladin2
I hate to be picky, but isn't GAZA AFTER the Suez on a trip from Iran to Syria?

They unload in the Sinai and transport to Gaza overnland. In the Mediterranean they'll have to deal with Israel's Navy, so they won't attempt a landing.

24 posted on 01/23/2009 2:59:30 PM PST by SJackson (The American people are wise in wanting change, 2 terms is plenty, Condi Rice)
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To: manc

You said — “yea he always does what he says right”

You can only go by what a President says on the record, and then hold him to his statements. We do have that — as you can see from post #21...


25 posted on 01/23/2009 3:00:19 PM PST by Star Traveler
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To: dennisw; Cachelot; Nix 2; veronica; Catspaw; knighthawk; Alouette; Optimist; weikel; Lent; GregB; ..
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26 posted on 01/23/2009 3:01:32 PM PST by SJackson (The American people are wise in wanting change, 2 terms is plenty, Condi Rice)
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To: Deb
I read that the UN restrictions were what stopped us from confiscating the arms.

Yes, we're not authorized to confiscate them, by the UN, which is very important. Rendering the embargo of Iran useless.

27 posted on 01/23/2009 3:02:33 PM PST by SJackson (The American people are wise in wanting change, 2 terms is plenty, Condi Rice)
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To: Star Traveler
You said-—— “It makes for good “hyperbole” but it isn’t the fact”

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Beware of the impostor. He has a proven record of deception. He has changed his word many times leading up to his coronation. He has no reason to fear those who challenge him now that he has been given the power to command his servants who bow down to him. Not even his opposition has spoke up against him in a forceful manner. He will surprise many by mocking God. The first was to approve the murder of His unborn children. The second was the approval of Sodomy. The third was his approval of creating as tho the Creator. He will do many ungodly things but in the end he will be Judged and will have to account for all his sins before the Creator Himself.

28 posted on 01/23/2009 3:08:03 PM PST by Evil Slayer (Onward, Christian soldiers, marching as to war)
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To: manc; max americana

You were saying — “got it in one”

You might make note of this one...


ISLAMABAD, Pakistan (AP) - Missiles fired from a suspected U.S. spy plane killed seven people Friday on the Pakistan side of the Afghan border, a lawless region where al-Qaida militants are known to hide out, officials said.

The strike was the first on Pakistani territory since the inauguration of President Barrack Obama.


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29 posted on 01/23/2009 3:08:23 PM PST by Star Traveler
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To: lewisglad
The ship and its escort are due to enter the Suez Canal heading north Saturday night, Jan. 23, after being prevented from unloading its arms freight on the coast of Sinai or Gaza.

Geography check here. If it is heading north through the Suez canal, it cannot have tried to unload near Gaza. Gaza is on the coast of the Med. (The coast of the Sinai is possible.)

On the other hand, if the escorts siezed the arms and tossed them overboard, then the statement would be true. But we would have heard about that from the press (American piracy on the high seas!)

30 posted on 01/23/2009 3:09:07 PM PST by 17th Miss Regt
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To: Paladin2

Look at a map.

Egypt and the gulf of Eliat is first off the Red Sea. After that, there is passage through Egypt and Suez. Then the mred and Egypt/Gaza, then Israel, Lebanon and Syria


31 posted on 01/23/2009 3:11:52 PM PST by bert (K.E. N.P. +12 . The original point of America was not to be Europe)
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To: Evil Slayer

You were saying, in part — “He will surprise many by mocking God. The first was to approve the murder of His unborn children. The second was the approval of Sodomy. The third was his approval of creating as tho the Creator. He will do many ungodly things but in the end he will be Judged and will have to account for all his sins before the Creator Himself.”

Well, he’s already done his mocking of God, as far as I’ve seen, and being a Democrat, he’s already moved on the abortion issue. And I’m sure in following typical Democrat policies he will definitely be doing many ungodly things and implementing them into the fabric of our society (as has been done by Democrats for quite a while, now).

And you’re definitely right about him having to account for all his sins before our Creator God, Himself — most likely at the Great White Throne judgement of the unsaved dead (as spoken of in Revelation 20).

All that being said (and all very true) there are those couple of things mentioned here that Obama didn’t back down on, in terms of the arms going to the Hamas and in that Obama says he will work with Israel to implement methods to block Hamas from re-arming.

Now, even if he’s going to be judged on all those other things (of which God will take care of), I’m glad to see that he’s for indicting the arms flow to Hamas...


32 posted on 01/23/2009 3:14:01 PM PST by Star Traveler
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To: 17th Miss Regt
The typical route is through the Red Sea to one of several "clandestine ports", their locations are no secret, in the Sinai, then overland to Gaza.

We didn't sieze the arms because though the shipment, to Syria on paper, is illegal, the UN doesn't authorize us to sieze them.

So off to Syria, then Iraq, rather than Gaza. Not so bad for Iran.

33 posted on 01/23/2009 3:18:31 PM PST by SJackson (The American people are wise in wanting change, 2 terms is plenty, Condi Rice)
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To: Evil Slayer

RE#28

Amen!
May the Lord Jesus Christ bless you and keep you.


34 posted on 01/23/2009 3:21:52 PM PST by tractorman
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To: Evil Slayer

got it in one


35 posted on 01/23/2009 3:24:38 PM PST by manc (Marriage is between a man and a woman no sick MA,CT sham marriage end racism end affirmative action)
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To: Star Traveler
He’s already on the record for that one. So, at least, he can be held to his “on the record” statements to that effect...

Well aren't you Pollyanna. Since when has zero been held to account for anything? Aren't you aware that ALL of zero's statements/pledges have "expiration dates"?

36 posted on 01/23/2009 3:54:21 PM PST by Auntie Dem (Hey! Hey! Ho! Ho! Terrorist lovers gotta go!)
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To: bert

It was a rhetorical question attempting to make fun of the “journalist”’s description.


37 posted on 01/23/2009 4:53:26 PM PST by Paladin2 (No, pundits strongly believe that the proper solution is more dilution.)
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To: Deb
I read that the UN restrictions were what stopped us from confiscating the arms

UN the great proponent of peace.
38 posted on 01/23/2009 5:47:59 PM PST by SisterK (building an underground economy one brick at a time)
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To: Evil Slayer
Beware of the impostor. He has a proven record of deception. He has changed his word many times leading up to his coronation. He has no reason to fear those who challenge him now that he has been given the power to command his servants who bow down to him. Not even his opposition has spoke up against him in a forceful manner. He will surprise many by mocking God. The first was to approve the murder of His unborn children. The second was the approval of Sodomy. The third was his approval of creating as tho the Creator. He will do many ungodly things but in the end he will be Judged and will have to account for all his sins before the Creator Himself.

And this is why Hussein's oath on the second day was not in the presence of a Bible. He is partnered with Satan.
39 posted on 01/23/2009 5:54:20 PM PST by SisterK (building an underground economy one brick at a time)
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To: Auntie Dem

You said — Well aren’t you Pollyanna. Since when has zero been held to account for anything? Aren’t you aware that ALL of zero’s statements/pledges have “expiration dates”?

Well, one thing for sure, while he’s President, he’s in a much higher profile than anything else, and yes, he will be held accountable in many ways that he’s never been held accountable for, in the past.

As far as expiration dates, I would say that goes for pretty much any politician. They all have their expiration dates on what they say (i.e., “read my lips” and “I sacrificed free market principles to save the economy...”).


40 posted on 01/25/2009 4:53:42 AM PST by Star Traveler
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