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Steele: GOP Should Reach Out To Gay, Pro-Choice Voters
Video Cafe (via Fox News) ^ | Feburary 1, 2009 | David Sunday

Posted on 02/02/2009 9:17:17 AM PST by UCFRoadWarrior

Michael Steele, the new chairman of the Republican National Committee wants the GOP to reach out to candidates who support gay marriage and are pro-choice. Steele told Fox's Chris Wallace that it was "important" to reach out to those voters.

WALLACE: You are one of the co-founders of something called the Republican Leadership Council which supports candidates who favor abortion and gay rights.

STEELE: Yes.

(watch video)

WALLACE: Does the GOP needs to do a better job of reaching out to people who hold those views?

STEELE: I think -- I think that's an important opportunity for us, absolutely. Within our party we do have those who have that view as well as outside and my partnership with Christy Todd Whittman was an effort to build a bridge between moderates and conservatives.

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TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: abortion; bigtent; bohica; conservativism; culturewar; gayvoters; gopchairman; homosexualagenda; michaelsteele; moralabsolutes; proaborts; prolife; rebuilding; rncchairman; ruhroh; sellout; steele
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To: manc

I’m afraid you are mistaken, sir. RR was not the sort of man who would demonize gays or treat them poorly. RR was kind to all (non-Soviets, anyway), and should be our example.

And are you suggesting we jail gays?


401 posted on 02/02/2009 1:00:28 PM PST by Retired Greyhound
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To: trisham

Alright, I’ll concede that’s a good point. I still say we give Steele a chance.


402 posted on 02/02/2009 1:03:41 PM PST by Tired of Taxes (Dad, I will always think of you.)
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To: Tired of Taxes

Do we have a choice?


403 posted on 02/02/2009 1:04:40 PM PST by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: donna
I am pro-life. I believe life begins at conception. I am also a realist. I know that even if Roe v Wade was overturned tomorrow the issue would be thrown back to the states.

There will always be a state line to cross. This is why I believe the political stage is the wrong place to fight this battle. To change the mindset of those in society that believe abortion is an acceptable option, we need to bring it back to our homes and work outwards.

The abortion issue is a political football owned by the party in power.

In a nut shell I think concentrating on Roe v Wade is a waste of time...ain't gonna happen. So I choose to fight the battle on another front.

Conservative or not?

404 posted on 02/02/2009 1:05:12 PM PST by Protect the Bill of Rights
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To: Smokin' Joe

What we’re seeing is the folks who play republican because they want to get rich, not because they have any love for, or understanding of, the basic principles. There is not a thing wrong with getting rich, the honest way, but these folks don’t want to go to that much trouble! The democrats have a similar group. I really can’t see enough difference to worry about, I’m fed up with all of them.


405 posted on 02/02/2009 1:05:41 PM PST by SWAMPSNIPER (THE SECOND AMENDMENT, A MATTER OF FACT, NOT A MATTER OF OPINION)
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To: LibLieSlayer

Libertarians are just well armed liberals that don’t want to pay taxes!


406 posted on 02/02/2009 1:06:55 PM PST by Beagle8U (FreeRepublic -- One stop shopping ....... Its the Conservative Super WalMart for news .)
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To: Pawtucket Patriot

So in your opinion, all Republican’s must be:

1) Christian
2) Anti-Abortion
3) Straight

???
Please explain, as I thought conservatism was:

1) Country and Constitution
2) Small Government, low taxes

I’d say that the first 3 you wrote is exactly right with the other two plus strong defence

Are you in RI?


407 posted on 02/02/2009 1:07:49 PM PST by manc (Marriage is between a man and a woman no sick MA,CT sham marriage end racism end affirmative action)
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To: manc

I agree. We very much need an oasis of conservatism where we can get serious conservative reinforcement during these times.

If we concentrate on smaller government and less taxes then we can avoid many RINO arguments because government won’t have the money to get involved in all these social issues.

We just have to find a way to fight off the federal courts and Congress with their unfunded mandates and cultural dictatorship.

Maybe it is time for states to say no to federal funding so as to regain their liberty - state by state.


408 posted on 02/02/2009 1:09:10 PM PST by donna (Synonyms: Feminism, Marxism, Communism, Socialism, Fascism)
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To: Hildy

the republican party is for traditional marriage and not for the homo perverted agenda.

just saw that you are pro choice too.

out of curiousity are you in the north east?


409 posted on 02/02/2009 1:10:37 PM PST by manc (Marriage is between a man and a woman no sick MA,CT sham marriage end racism end affirmative action)
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To: KevinDavis

to me is the homo agenda

that is anti traditional family which has been the backbone of this country.

Having homo’s marry, get a hold of kids and teach it is normal is very anti family in my book


410 posted on 02/02/2009 1:12:22 PM PST by manc (Marriage is between a man and a woman no sick MA,CT sham marriage end racism end affirmative action)
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To: Girlene

Thanks for the link. I read it. I still don’t know what Steele will do, exactly, but I’m willing to wait and see for now.


411 posted on 02/02/2009 1:13:15 PM PST by Tired of Taxes (Dad, I will always think of you.)
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To: trisham

Well, no, we don’t. :-)


412 posted on 02/02/2009 1:14:03 PM PST by Tired of Taxes (Dad, I will always think of you.)
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To: Responsibility2nd

said the every same too.

I had the displeasure of living up in the north east and sadly there are a lot of Rudy’s there.
They go to church but have no problem with homo’s and abortion.


413 posted on 02/02/2009 1:16:19 PM PST by manc (Marriage is between a man and a woman no sick MA,CT sham marriage end racism end affirmative action)
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To: my_pointy_head_is_sharp

there is a big difference between republican and conservative I have found on my travels to the north east.


414 posted on 02/02/2009 1:18:06 PM PST by manc (Marriage is between a man and a woman no sick MA,CT sham marriage end racism end affirmative action)
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To: Pawtucket Patriot; Responsibility2nd; itsahoot; manc

“I know here that you will agree with me that standing up for America also means standing up for the God who has so blessed our land. I believe this country hungers for a spiritual revival. I believe it longs to see traditional values reflected in public policy again. To those who cite the first amendment as reason for excluding God from more and more of our institutions and everyday life, may I just say: The first amendment of the Constitution was not written to protect the people of this country from religious values; it was written to protect religious values from government tyranny.”
- Ronald Reagan -

“Faith in God, patriotism, freedom, the love of freedom, family, work, neighborhood — the heart and soul of America’s past and the promise of her future. If we stand together and live up to these principles, we will not fail.”
- Ronald Reagan -


415 posted on 02/02/2009 1:20:02 PM PST by donna (Synonyms: Feminism, Marxism, Communism, Socialism, Fascism)
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To: Protect the Bill of Rights

The federal courts will not allow state anti-abortion laws to stand. RINO’s like it that way.

What now?


416 posted on 02/02/2009 1:24:04 PM PST by donna (Synonyms: Feminism, Marxism, Communism, Socialism, Fascism)
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To: MadIsh32

why can’t a homosexual be reached you asked

HOW?

homo’s already know what our platform is.

traditional marriage is one of them now if they come to vote for the GOP (which most wouldn’t) then it would mean the GOP would have to be for their sick perverted agenda.
Unless you want that ????????????

No way would that go down for the majority of the conservative base

So in essence, gain what 5,000voters and lose over two million


417 posted on 02/02/2009 1:28:16 PM PST by manc (Marriage is between a man and a woman no sick MA,CT sham marriage end racism end affirmative action)
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To: who knows what evil?

Certainly not the Republican Party with its power-at-any-price mentality.As long as the GOP beats the Democrats,thats all that matters,even if it means being just like them!


418 posted on 02/02/2009 1:28:19 PM PST by liberalism is suicide (Communism,fascism-no matter how you slice socialism, its still baloney)
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To: Darkwolf377; manc; LibLieSlayer; itsahoot; Campion; Just mythoughts; donna
"Someone please FReepmail this guy and tell him what an idiot he looks like"

Dark, I'm still waiting for that FReepmail. Or a reply from someone who thinks like you do - who thinks I'm an idiot.

So far - nothing. nada. zip.

But as you can see - I've pinged a few FReepers who have taken you to task. A few FReepers who have tried - as I have to point out the foolishness of your posts.

Looks like you are outnumbered. You are not alone in voicing your support for Steele and his call for more gays and more pro-abortion voters.

But you are in the minority. And you are wrong.

But what do I know. I'm an idiot, huh?

419 posted on 02/02/2009 1:29:22 PM PST by Responsibility2nd
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To: UCFRoadWarrior
So, the GOP just loses an election because 5% of their conservative base refused to vote for a rino and they think the answer is to go more to the left. Stupid party being stupid once again!

What they are going to do is split the GOP into a me too dem light party and a Christian party and they will never win an other election again....Hey just what the dems want.

420 posted on 02/02/2009 1:31:24 PM PST by Lady Heron
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To: God luvs America

No, reaching out to them is not the thing to do: The thing to do is to uphold conservative values (even some values that may be at odds with some of their stances), and if they then decide to follow us: fine (then they hold other conservative values in higher reguard than their “gay” or “pro-choice” views), and are friends, but we should NEVER compromise on THESE PRINCIPLES (Any) E V E R@!


421 posted on 02/02/2009 1:31:45 PM PST by JSDude1 (R(epublicans) In Name Only SUCK; D(emocrats) In Name Only are worth their weight..)
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To: Blue Highway

you are going to see the Republican party slide down the slippery slope by courting gay/pro-choiccers as once they jump board you bet your bottom dollars they will want to be represented 100% even though they would account for .01% of the total vote. The writing is on the wall, we have become the party of come one come all we want your vote above all else and our parties principals are secondary to winnin elections...

Welcome to the new and improved Republican party 2.0 complete with Myspace, Facebook, YouTube, Twitter and the next trendy idea that comes along. Don’t worry that the same RINO message is the same, this time for 2010 and 2012, it is a can’t lose, we have the INTERNETS!!!

great post
trouble is that even there are a couple here who are pro homo and pro abortion so even on this conservative website there are liberal republican supporters and while we have them then we will keep getting RINO’s

the homo’s know our platform, traditional marriage and homosexuality or it’s agenda of marriage, teaching in schools and adopting is not the platform of the GOP that is the Dem platform of which most of this country is against.
It was the war and the media which clouded their voting


422 posted on 02/02/2009 1:32:38 PM PST by manc (Marriage is between a man and a woman no sick MA,CT sham marriage end racism end affirmative action)
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To: UCFRoadWarrior
Will somebody get rid of the nothern republicans in positions of power in the party and put in somebody who actually understands the base!
423 posted on 02/02/2009 1:32:48 PM PST by Lady Heron
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To: wagglebee

God help us!


424 posted on 02/02/2009 1:34:41 PM PST by fetal heart beats by 21st day (If you defend baby-killing in this life, you will have no defense in the after-life.)
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To: Lady Heron

Well the way I see it is you’re going to have a demi-lite mee too party, RINO, big-corporate welfare party, then you’ll have a Libertarian-Consitutionalist-RR Conservative-Christian Party. And you’re right the RINO party will probably go the way of the WHIGS and ~Never~ win another election ~ever~ again!


425 posted on 02/02/2009 1:34:45 PM PST by JSDude1 (R(epublicans) In Name Only SUCK; D(emocrats) In Name Only are worth their weight..)
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To: MadIsh32

I’m not religious but I find homosexuality disgusting as do most of the country.

I don’t fall the I know a homo and he is nice crap either, They are different people when they are with their own on their freak parades


426 posted on 02/02/2009 1:35:36 PM PST by manc (Marriage is between a man and a woman no sick MA,CT sham marriage end racism end affirmative action)
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To: jla

It’s explicitly true, for the simple reason that we have 377,000 registered voters in CA.


427 posted on 02/02/2009 1:36:55 PM PST by EternalVigilance (Check our our little party at AIPNEWS.com...founded by FReepers and already the nation's 3rd largest)
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To: ForeignDude

Oh, I see. Life no longer goes with liberty and the pursuit of happiness. Choosing infanticide is synomous with freedom now! Wouldn’t the founders be surprised!


428 posted on 02/02/2009 1:38:08 PM PST by liberalism is suicide (Communism,fascism-no matter how you slice socialism, its still baloney)
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To: Always Right
Actually there is! You cannot find common ground on either issue, because their activists want things their way or the highway. No such thing as common ground.

We need to be done with group think all together, we need to be about individualism, NOT VICTIM and group mentality!

429 posted on 02/02/2009 1:38:38 PM PST by gidget7 (Duncan Hunter-Valley Forge Republican!)
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To: UCFRoadWarrior

He was chosen because he is black.


430 posted on 02/02/2009 1:38:41 PM PST by LanaTurnerOverdrive ("I've done a few things in my life I'm not proud of, and the things I am proud of are disgusting.")
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To: UCFRoadWarrior

The Republicans are doing nothing but going tit for tat with the dems. Dems have Hillary Reps. have Sarah Palin (who I like btw), Dems have a black President, Reps. have a black Chairman of the GOP.

I know many people here love Michael Steele but whenever I’ve seen him, he’s seemed kind of wishy washy to me. It does not surprise me in the least that he wants to court the gay community and the pro-choice crowd.


431 posted on 02/02/2009 1:39:59 PM PST by panthermom
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To: manc

You see, I guess I’m in the middle here.

I’m all for, 1)Strong Defense, low Taxes and the U.S. Constitution first,..

but I’m also Pro-Choice and believe Gay’s and Lesbians actually exist and aren’t some make believe mental illness. Not that they should be married, but we also shouldn’t keep their freedoms of life commitment away from them.

I am also Agnostic, not Atheist, I just can’t choose one of the 600,000 religions in the world yet but fully enjoy all of them just as much and their diversity.

This is why a definition of what is a Conservative/ Republican is can be fuzzy.

/left New England long ago


432 posted on 02/02/2009 1:40:29 PM PST by Pawtucket Patriot
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To: UCFRoadWarrior
Okay I thought we had hope here, my mistake. Steele isn't my kind of “Conservative”.
If there are Conservative gays out there fine, but I am not looking for Pro-Abortion Republicans.
Well the Bloom came off that Rose real quick.
Damn is this Party going to do anything but continually shoot itself in both feet and it's ASS??????????????
433 posted on 02/02/2009 1:40:30 PM PST by Captain Peter Blood
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To: Responsibility2nd
Dark, I'm still waiting for that FReepmail. Or a reply from someone who thinks like you do - who thinks I'm an idiot. So far - nothing. nada. zip.

Funny, you have NOW changed from "proving" I called for the GOP to move left, to focusing on a one-liner I added at the end of a post.

No mention that by YOUR standards, Palin is pro-gay.

No mention that you LIED about me supposedly saying the GOP should go left.

So that's your big, final defense--you can't post A SINGLE CLIP "proving" I claimed the GOP should move to the left...so you say "Ha, no one's FReepmailed me!" in response to a wisecrack...and that proves...what?

But as you can see - I've pinged a few FReepers who have taken you to task. A few FReepers who have tried - as I have to point out the foolishness of your posts.

They have? They haven't posted anything to me.

Nothing, nada. Zip.

So again--where are all these cut-and-pastes of my words "proving" your lie that I have repeatedly said on this thread that we should move to the left?

Nothing. Nada. Zip.

Where is your proof that I didn't post that Palin did so because of the constitutionality--which I posted before you even brought it up?

Nothing. Nada. Zip.

Looks like you are outnumbered.

So far it's you and...you. And your constant shifting of your claims each time you are shown to be wrong.

You are not alone in voicing your support for Steele and his call for more gays and more pro-abortion voters.

What does "you are not alone" mean? I thought your point is I AM alone.

But you are in the minority. And you are wrong.

In my hoping more people can be converted to conservative beliefs, like Reagan?

If you want to be against Reagan, who went from pro-abortion to pro-life, from Democrat to Republican, I'll take being "alone" over being with people like you--who lie, and are caught looking stupid over and over again--any day.

But what do I know. I'm an idiot, huh?

I'm glad you finally admitted it.

You've been challenged on your lies.

You couldn't come up with any facts.

You stand exposed as a liar who doesn't know what he's talking about--insisting Palin's first veto WASN'T about same-sex partnerships, posting some completely unrelated thing about budgets, and when proved wrong say "Oh, I MEANT to do that."

At least you admit your idiocy, in a weird way, but at least you've done it.

Thanks for that, at least.

Game, set, and match to DW.

Bye. And please--let this be a lesson to you; next time, you really should look things up before shooting your mouth off and displaying your ignorance.

434 posted on 02/02/2009 1:41:18 PM PST by Darkwolf377 (Pro-Life Capitalist American Atheist and Free-Speech Junkie)
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To: donna

Try this:

http://www.freestateproject.org/
,
http://christianexodus.org/

two examples

http://www.republicoflakotah.com/


435 posted on 02/02/2009 1:42:27 PM PST by JSDude1 (R(epublicans) In Name Only SUCK; D(emocrats) In Name Only are worth their weight..)
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To: Retired Greyhound

Ronald Reagan had a gay way back when on his staff when he was Governor, his attitude was live and let live.
What I don’t like ,and I am sure Reagan didn’t either, was extreme Left Wing in your Face gays and I am with him there.


436 posted on 02/02/2009 1:42:49 PM PST by Captain Peter Blood
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To: EternalVigilance
377,000 in CA? That's impressive. I was looking at the AIP site yesterday. Agree with everything that org is about. Good luck.

But, if Palin is at the top of the (G.O.P.) ticket in 2012 I expect the AIP to support her.

437 posted on 02/02/2009 1:44:15 PM PST by jla (Sarah! sarahpac.com)
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To: manc; Pinkbell; Jim Robinson; wagglebee; cpforlife.org; Kevmo; narses

From the Constitution:

“nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law;” (5th amendment)

“No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.” (14th amendment)

The US Constitution acknowledges, and codifies, the fact that government has no legal authority to take life without due process of law-ie-the person is accused, tried, and convicted of a capital crime.

So, yes, conservatives are PROLIFE.

Conservatives are conserving US Constitutional law AND honoring God’s laws-which the Declaration of Independence & US Constitution set out to do as well.


438 posted on 02/02/2009 1:44:57 PM PST by fetal heart beats by 21st day (If you defend baby-killing in this life, you will have no defense in the after-life.)
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To: Protect the Bill of Rights

Personhood *(universal personhood-Life, Liberty and “pursuit of happiness”) is the front to fight abortion on.

http://personhoodusa.com/


439 posted on 02/02/2009 1:47:24 PM PST by JSDude1 (R(epublicans) In Name Only SUCK; D(emocrats) In Name Only are worth their weight..)
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To: UCFRoadWarrior

The Republican Party is not a conservative party, it is a moderate party. To the left is the Democrat Party, I am not sure which party is to the right of the Republicans.


440 posted on 02/02/2009 1:48:11 PM PST by Zombie Sakana (Democrat motto: Kill a baby, save a terrorist.)
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To: manc

I am not for special rights, but I support anyone to live the life they want to live..just not force it on me. I am pro choice, I hate abortion, but I don’t see how it can be outlawed now...it is not the issue I care the most about. Anything else you want to know? I live in Arizona.


441 posted on 02/02/2009 1:49:34 PM PST by Hildy
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To: UCFRoadWarrior

Noooooooooooooo!!!


442 posted on 02/02/2009 1:50:14 PM PST by Jim Robinson
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To: manc

Great point!

LLS


443 posted on 02/02/2009 1:50:46 PM PST by LibLieSlayer (hussein will NEVER be my president... NEVER!)
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To: Beagle8U

:-)

LLS


444 posted on 02/02/2009 1:51:23 PM PST by LibLieSlayer (hussein will NEVER be my president... NEVER!)
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To: JSDude1

I agree about the personhood part.


445 posted on 02/02/2009 1:51:48 PM PST by fetal heart beats by 21st day (If you defend baby-killing in this life, you will have no defense in the after-life.)
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To: Responsibility2nd
Your kind of “idiot” is spelled PATRIOT!

LLS

446 posted on 02/02/2009 1:52:55 PM PST by LibLieSlayer (hussein will NEVER be my president... NEVER!)
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To: Darkwolf377

Wow!

I sure struck a nerve with you!

I guess I should be flattered that you read, dissect, cut and paste every word I say in your feeble attempt to hate and insult me.

But dude. Let it go. Please feel free to ignore me. I really didn’t mean to cause you so much anger and stress as you have shown this afternoon.

Just let it go.

Or continue to hate on me.

Whatever. You have my permission.


447 posted on 02/02/2009 1:54:00 PM PST by Responsibility2nd
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To: UCFRoadWarrior

I saw the entire interview....you might try that sometime, before you fall into their little traps again.

I have NO problem with anything Steele said in this interview.- NONE... and I am adamantly pro-life.

It amazes me that FREEPers KNOW that a Republican can give a 30 minute interview, and media will use the one, worst phrase they can gather and use it to tear us apart, and we actually fall for it.

geeshk...


448 posted on 02/02/2009 1:54:06 PM PST by eeevil conservative (GIVE ME A PLACE TO STAND AND I WILL MOVE THE EARTH....Archimedes)
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To: Captain Peter Blood

I agree with you.

I think most of us conservatives are the “live and let live” type.

The In Your Face lefties have gone haywire. I don’t think that Steele is suggesting we reach out to them.


449 posted on 02/02/2009 2:00:30 PM PST by Retired Greyhound
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To: fetal heart beats by 21st day
So any Conservative that supported the war on Terror, you know, the killing of terrorists, Iraq Republican Guard, Taliban, etc. that's not really killing because they've been tried and convicted to death already? Or are pacifists only Conservatives then by your strict interpretation?

(14th Amendment) By that definition, wouldn't keeping Homosexual's from having the liberty to choose a life together be unconstitutional? Or does the mental image of two men naked rolling in the sack together make you shiver so much that you're going to go all biblical on us?

I think I have a solution to all of this.

Some of you get together and start the "Little Baby Jesus" party. It'll be made up of all the things you can dream about being the perfect white, Christian fundamentalist conservatives that you think you are and then you can rise to power as one. Sound good?
450 posted on 02/02/2009 2:00:39 PM PST by Pawtucket Patriot
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