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Obama Acolyte Introduces Bill to Create Concentration Camps for Dissidents
The Republican Liberty Caucus ^ | 2.4.2009 | Free Thought

Posted on 02/04/2009 6:02:21 AM PST by obamaisandrogynous

Writer Jerome Corsi is reporting on WorldNetDaily that former, disgraced federal judge, now Rep. Alcee L. Hastings (D-Fla.), an Obama apparatchik, has introduced a new bill calling for the government to establish six concentration camps for “corralling civilians on military installations.”

The bill, HR 645, creates camps that are similar to the concentration camps used to house political dissidents in Nazi Germany.

According to the proposed bill, the purpose of the National Emergency Centers is “to provide temporary housing as well as medical, and humanitarian assistance to individuals and families dislocated due to an emergency or major disaster.

The broad parameters of the bill contribute to concern that the “national emergency” purpose could be utilized by the secretary of homeland security to include any kind of situation the government wants to contain or otherwise control, Corsi reports.

Rep. Hastings created controversy during the 2008 presidential campaign with his provocative comments concerning Republican vice presidential candidate Sarah Palin.

“If Sarah Palin ain’t enough of a reason for you to get over whatever your problem is with Barack Obama, then you damn well had better pay attention,” Hastings said, as reported by ABC News. “Anybody toting guns and stripping moose don’t care too much about what they do with Jews and blacks. So, you just think this through.”

Uh huh. We’re thinking through what you want to do with your bill, Mr. Hastings.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: concentrationcamps; deathcamps; forcedindoctrination; gitmo; hastings; hr645; obama; terrorists
Yeah, let's get this straight: Democrats want to free terrorists from GITMO. But they want to create six GITMOs to imprison American conservatives. Seems totally reasonable.
1 posted on 02/04/2009 6:02:21 AM PST by obamaisandrogynous
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To: obamaisandrogynous

I doubt they’re for dissidents. More likely to be used in the event of floods, hurricanes etc.

Still is can be used as a club against the democrats.

Swing at will.


2 posted on 02/04/2009 6:04:59 AM PST by cripplecreek (The poor bastards have us surrounded.)
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To: obamaisandrogynous

intolerant, leftist totalitarians anyone?

IMHO


3 posted on 02/04/2009 6:05:48 AM PST by ripley
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To: obamaisandrogynous
>>Democrats want to free terrorists from GITMO. But they want to create six GITMOs to imprison American conservatives<<

NEWS FLASH!!!! - This effort began under the Bush administration.

If you read the article closely, you will see that millions have ALREADY been spent converting and constructing centers for training and emergency response....with the capability of detaining individuals during times of national emergency defined by the president w/o congressional oversight.

Hint hint.....civil unrest due to economic hardtimes could very well be construed as a national emergency.

The government in Iceland was brought down by massive “non-violent protest” recently. Just a thought and my humble lil ol opinion.

4 posted on 02/04/2009 6:08:58 AM PST by servantboy777
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To: obamaisandrogynous

The article does not say a thing about the government having the power to compel people to go to those. It authorizes the government to create places for disaster displaced people. Unless it is true that the bill (which probably has little support anyway) allows the government to force people to these places it seems to me the author of the piece is a black helicopter chicken little.

The WND original article also says nothing about the government being able to force people to these either. Barring that critical piece of information its impossible to come to their paranoid comparison linking this to Nazi Germany and even then it takes a gigantic leap.


5 posted on 02/04/2009 6:09:03 AM PST by DemonDeac
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To: obamaisandrogynous
"Work will make you Free"I don't remember the German for it but it was over the gates at the camps in the Reich.
6 posted on 02/04/2009 6:11:35 AM PST by Don Corleone (Leave the gun..take the cannoli now reads "Oil the gun..eat the cannolis.")
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To: Don Corleone

“Arbeit Mach Frei”


7 posted on 02/04/2009 6:16:45 AM PST by The FIGHTIN Illini (Got yur gun yet?)
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To: obamaisandrogynous
But they want to create six GITMOs to imprison American conservatives

Where did you read that? It isn't in the bill and you have to use a lot of imagination to put it there.

Aside from this being posted no less than a dozen time already this week, these stories are short on fact and long on speculation. Yours especially.

8 posted on 02/04/2009 6:22:23 AM PST by Eagle Eye (Libs- If you don't have to play the rules then neither do we...THINK ABOUT IT!)
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To: Don Corleone

Arbeit Macht Frei


9 posted on 02/04/2009 6:22:27 AM PST by IYAS9YAS (Obama - what you get when you mix Affirmative Action with the Peter Principle.)
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To: servantboy777
Did someone say Iceland?


10 posted on 02/04/2009 6:23:55 AM PST by WakeUpAndVote (INGSOC starts 1.20.09)
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To: obamaisandrogynous

Alcee’s got some land he wants to sell the government for these “camps”.


11 posted on 02/04/2009 6:24:13 AM PST by neocon1984
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To: obamaisandrogynous

It may be a little premature and paranoid to call them concentration camps. But you can decide for yourself.

Go to:

http://thomas.loc.gov/

Type in HR 645, select the ‘Bill Number’ radio button and hit Search.


12 posted on 02/04/2009 6:29:45 AM PST by newheart (Obama. We kind of underestimated the creepiness.)
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To: obamaisandrogynous

Its something to keep in mind that if it was to be these concentration or detention centers there would be a massive shutdown of any facts concerning who is there, the spin would be “terrorists, dangerous dissidents” but in truth could be your next door neighbors family.

We should be prepared to implement ways and means to storm these these camps of holding Americans against their free will regardless of the consequences that in fact may very well harbor real criminals, but then again if we need many many “Dirty Dozens” then it shall be done, and I for one would not hesitate to consider existing incarceration areas if push came to shove.

Imagine the squeals of concern from the libtards if they were told there was a possibility extremist groups would break into prisons all across America to recruit prisoners to re-take back and re-instate a legal government?

Oh the horrors if it was ever imagined that pardons could be issued if former prisoners agree to take up arms that ordinary citizens could not and form a well maintained militia as stated in our Constitution.

Ohh the huge-manatee!

Just thinking about a scenario is interesting.


13 posted on 02/04/2009 6:39:18 AM PST by Eye of Unk (How strangely will the Tools of a Tyrant pervert the plain Meaning of Words! SA)
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To: cripplecreek

“Swing” carefully,
lest you appear to be a kook.

I’d point at the record and the statements of the bill’s sponsor, as relates to what he’d like to do with dissidents.


14 posted on 02/04/2009 6:43:58 AM PST by MrB (The 0bamanation: Marxism, Infanticide, Appeasement, Depression, Thuggery, and Censorship)
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To: DemonDeac

However, Hastings rant concerning Sarah Palin is a strong indication of what he wants these camps for.


15 posted on 02/04/2009 6:47:17 AM PST by rcofdayton
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To: DemonDeac

However, Hastings rant concerning Sarah Palin is a strong indication of what he wants these camps for.


16 posted on 02/04/2009 6:49:06 AM PST by rcofdayton
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To: servantboy777; obamaisandrogynous; cripplecreek
Newsflash, there are already over 600 of these in the US and it was started under Reagan.

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread59023/pg1

and

http://uweb.txstate.edu/~lf14/conspire/rex84.html

17 posted on 02/04/2009 6:50:48 AM PST by YellowRoseofTx (Evil is not the opposite of God; it's the absence of God)
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To: obamaisandrogynous

Well let’s look at the historical record of the 20th century:

It was a ‘Rat President (FDR) that rounded up Japanese and put them into internment camps.

How many Republican Presidents have acted likewise?


18 posted on 02/04/2009 6:51:30 AM PST by mkjessup
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To: obamaisandrogynous
“Anybody toting guns and stripping moose don’t care too much about what they do with Jews and blacks..."

I fail to see the correlation. And what's with the lousy grammar?

19 posted on 02/04/2009 6:53:11 AM PST by The Duke (I have met the enemy, and he is named 'Apathy'!)
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To: YellowRoseofTx

The only problem with these secret detention centers is the fact that they don’t exist. I’ve been to the Raco field “detention center” within the last year and I hate to tell you but it’s not there.


20 posted on 02/04/2009 6:53:19 AM PST by cripplecreek (The poor bastards have us surrounded.)
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To: cripplecreek

I can’t speak for any of them, only going by others I’ve heard speak about having been to some, found some, etc....and the articles I’ve read with pictures of some.


21 posted on 02/04/2009 7:27:49 AM PST by YellowRoseofTx (Evil is not the opposite of God; it's the absence of God)
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To: obamaisandrogynous

“Anybody toting guns and stripping moose don’t care too much about what they do with Jews and blacks. So, you just think this through.”

Holy Cow! I can’t believe this! This guy equates Jews and Blacks to Moose? HE is the one with the problem. This guy also needs to review a 5th grade grammar text.


22 posted on 02/04/2009 7:30:17 AM PST by Dudoight
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To: cripplecreek

bttt


23 posted on 02/04/2009 7:30:38 AM PST by Guenevere (..........".If you don't run, you won't win".....)
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To: DemonDeac
DemonDeac wrote:
The WND original article also says nothing about the government being able to force people to these either. Barring that critical piece of information its impossible to come to their paranoid comparison linking this to Nazi Germany and even then it takes a gigantic leap.
The actual bill, H.R.645, National Emergency Centers Establishment Act, also doesn't say anything about forcing people into these emergency centers.

Sometimes WND takes huge leaps that aren't supported by the facts at all. This looks like one of those leaps. The bill calls for the establishment of six emergency centers for the purpose of disaster relief. It comes under FEMA, under the Homeland Security department.

24 posted on 02/04/2009 7:56:02 AM PST by cc2k
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To: cripplecreek; 2CAVTrooper

“I doubt they’re for dissidents. More likely to be used in the event of floods, hurricanes etc.”

C’mon - you’re smarter than that.

2CavTrooper summed it up very well:

Military bases are already used for staging areas in case of disaster.

Every time there is a hurricane that’s going to hit the gulf coast, there are hundreds of tractor trailers loaded with food, water, ice, blankets, cots, tents, etc that are prepositioned at Maxwell AFB.

Some refugees from Katrina were housed on military bases.

At no time in our history did we ever need these permanent camps.

The great Chicago fire was handled without these camps.

The San Fransisco earthquake and fire was handled without these camps.

Mount St. Helens was handled without these camps.

The Galveston blast was handled without these camps.

And there were numerous storms and other natural disasters that were handled without these camps.

So the question should really be why is an America hating ‘rat congressman hell bent for leather to establish these ‘camps’ now?


25 posted on 02/04/2009 7:59:33 AM PST by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: obamaisandrogynous
The "concentration camp" crticism is uncontrolled hyperbole, although what is revealed of this proposal has real problems.

I see it as a domestic "West Bank." guaranteed to grow 500,000 disaster victims into 4 million dispossesed "victims" in a few generations. Anyone else remember how Katrina victims refused to leave the "refugee" camps (and hotel rooms) when the crisis was long over?

Another potential HUGE and PERMANENT welfare program. Great time to be "investing" in growing our domestic human pet population.

26 posted on 02/04/2009 9:08:01 AM PST by Publius6961 (Change is not a plan; Hope is not a strategy.)
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To: DuncanWaring; All

IIRC Ft Hood TX is another place that FEMA has used in the past to preposition supplies for hurricane treats to the gulf coast.

Here is the breakdown for hurricane Gustav:
http://www.fema.gov/news/newsrelease.fema?id=45583

Here is the response to hurricane Ivan:
http://www.fema.gov/news/newsrelease.fema?id=14390

As I have said before the question we ought to be asking is why an America hating ‘rat congressman is pushing to establish permanent relocation camps when none were ever needed before?


27 posted on 02/04/2009 11:40:06 AM PST by 2CAVTrooper (Man is not free unless government is limited.)
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To: servantboy777

The government in Iceland was brought down by massive “non-violent protest” recently. Just a thought and my humble lil ol opinion.

Tax revolt ; )


28 posted on 02/04/2009 11:42:13 AM PST by mojitojoe
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To: rcofdayton

owever, Hastings rant concerning Sarah Palin is a strong indication of what he wants these camps for.

Rather telling, isn’t it?


29 posted on 02/04/2009 11:53:44 AM PST by mojitojoe
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