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(Dem) Senator Jim Webb says Pork bill has 100 billion fat in it

Posted on 02/05/2009 6:20:52 PM PST by HD1200

We keep hearing that the pork in the bill is 1% of the total. Tonight while channel flipping MSNBC, Maddow, had a reporterette on that said even Senator Jim Webb is upset with this "stimulus" bill quoting him as saying there is at least 100 billion of costs that do not belong in this bill. No vote tonight. Harry Reid was "mistaken" about having the votes. Dems are losing moderate Democratic Senators on this bill.


TOPICS: US: Virginia; Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: 111th; bhostimulus; jimwebb; pork; slowitdown
To top it off, Barack Obama goes on TV tonight from the Democratic junket in Virginia that is costing taxpayers about $80,000 and thanks them for the event because it gave him the opportunity to fly Air Force One to the event. Then he gives a totally partisan blame the republicans speech. What a SLIME BALL!
1 posted on 02/05/2009 6:20:52 PM PST by HD1200
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To: HD1200

Jim Webb knows where the American public (= his constituents from a conservative state) stand on it.


2 posted on 02/05/2009 6:22:48 PM PST by libh8er
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To: HD1200

Webb and Warner may both bail on the bill. There isn’t enough stimulus in the stimulus package.


3 posted on 02/05/2009 6:24:06 PM PST by AppyPappy (If you aren't part of the solution, there is good money to be made prolonging the problem.)
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To: HD1200

I’m thinking more around $400,000,000,000.


4 posted on 02/05/2009 6:24:30 PM PST by originalbuckeye
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To: HD1200

You know, if we provide one or two votes to get them past a filibuster, I’d be ok with that - provided the Dems all vote for it.

I want this to pass, and then have our crash tied exclusively to the Dems. It’s ugly for the country, but needs to happen for our long-term survival.


5 posted on 02/05/2009 6:25:09 PM PST by BobL
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To: HD1200

oh here comes the setup—he’s inviting the RINO’s to cross the aisle now and sign the POS after shaving $100B off it. Stupid RINOs will do it, and the plan will be fulfilled. Dems never intended to get all they asked for anyway..just wait, next week it’ll pass and we will be told that everybody wins! yippeee


6 posted on 02/05/2009 6:25:56 PM PST by Conservatives_Unite
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To: HD1200
(Dem) Senator Jim Webb says Pork bill has 100 billion fat in it

I would suggest that the esteemed senator has it backwards. Perhaps, and I say again, perhaps there might be 100 billion that is not fat … and that would be a generous assessment. ;-)

7 posted on 02/05/2009 6:26:35 PM PST by doc1019 (We are in great need of another revolution in this country!)
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To: HD1200

Only 100 billion in pork? Somehow I think that amount is much much greater.


8 posted on 02/05/2009 6:26:40 PM PST by SoldierDad (Proud Dad of a U.S. Army Infantry Soldier presently instructing at Ft. Benning.)
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To: HD1200
The Senate pukes (mainly demonRATS) added 100 billion of crap to the House bill, probably just so they could trim 100 billion and say they trimmed out the pork.

They MUST think we are all stupid out here in the real world.

Well, at least half of us ARE stupid (the half that votes for SOCIALISTS).

9 posted on 02/05/2009 6:26:48 PM PST by DocH (Keep your powder dry and keep it in the black, fellow freedom-loving Patriots)
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To: BobL

I think I’m with you- burn, baby, burn


10 posted on 02/05/2009 6:27:18 PM PST by Conservatives_Unite
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To: HD1200

He used AF-1 to fly 131 miles. That is totally STUPID! It costs around $7,000 an hour to operate the AVERAGE 747. You can bet it is 10X as much for AF-1.


11 posted on 02/05/2009 6:27:51 PM PST by Islander7 (If you want to anger conservatives, lie to them. If you want to anger liberals, tell them the truth.)
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To: HD1200

Reparations.


12 posted on 02/05/2009 6:30:09 PM PST by Crawdad (Barack Obama hates black people.)
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To: libh8er

Try about 500 billion , Clifton.


13 posted on 02/05/2009 6:30:17 PM PST by Carl LaFong (Experts say experts should be ignored.)
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To: HD1200

A short trip over to Virginia from D.C. Wouldn’t it have been a lot cheaper to fly over in the Marine One helicopter rather than the 747.


14 posted on 02/05/2009 6:30:22 PM PST by Sig Sauer P220 (There ought to be one day -- just one -- when there is open season on Senators --- Will Rogers)
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To: HD1200

Man, it’s Madcow....Madcow IS a man. Obama is the worst since Carter. Wasting taxpayer money on his big boy jet.


15 posted on 02/05/2009 6:30:55 PM PST by shankbear (Al-Qaeda grew while Monica blew)
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To: AppyPappy

Webb is a traitor who writes Vietnam war novels about oral sex with young boys.


16 posted on 02/05/2009 6:31:59 PM PST by Frantzie (Boycott GE - they own NBC, MSNBC, CNBC & Universal. Boycott Disney - they own ABC)
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To: HD1200
They need to shave at lease $400,000,000,000 off this thing...not $100,000,000,000.

The cost of this thing is beyond obscene.

17 posted on 02/05/2009 6:34:54 PM PST by what's up
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To: HD1200

Kill the Porkulus...for the children!


18 posted on 02/05/2009 6:35:37 PM PST by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: originalbuckeye
I’m thinking more around $400,000,000,000.

Don't sell the pork short. I'll go out on a limb and say there's about $930 billion worth of HORSESH*T in that bill.

19 posted on 02/05/2009 6:36:34 PM PST by GOPyouth ("Uhhhhhhhhhh." - President B. Hussein Obama)
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To: Islander7

I was thinking the same thing. What a waste of taxpayer money! Not only that, he used it to go to a Dem retreat which we, the taxpayers, are paying for also!


20 posted on 02/05/2009 6:37:26 PM PST by originalbuckeye
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To: Frantzie

And gives his gun to a friend to carry into the capitol building, then throws him under the bus when the guy gets caught.


21 posted on 02/05/2009 6:37:47 PM PST by cripplecreek (The poor bastards have us surrounded.)
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To: Islander7

He used AF-1 to fly 131 miles to attend a Congressional Democratic retreat. Wonder who is picking up the tab for the retreat? Ironic this is happening at the same time the government is telling companies to cancel junkets.


22 posted on 02/05/2009 6:38:52 PM PST by USNBandit (sarcasm engaged at all times)
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To: Conservatives_Unite

Make public if any RINO’s go for that!!!!

This bill has to be SCRAPPED and areal stimulus bill.


23 posted on 02/05/2009 6:39:04 PM PST by Recovering Ex-hippie (FREE BLAGO !!! LET HIM SPEAK TRUTH TO POWER !!!)
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To: GOPyouth

I read that there were around $400,000,000,000 in ‘tax cuts’ but I suspect that some of those are the welfare payments to people who don’t pay taxes.


24 posted on 02/05/2009 6:40:06 PM PST by originalbuckeye
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To: Frantzie

Good God! Can’t stand him, never knew THAT.


25 posted on 02/05/2009 6:40:06 PM PST by Recovering Ex-hippie (FREE BLAGO !!! LET HIM SPEAK TRUTH TO POWER !!!)
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To: USNBandit

Don’t worry. If any stink is raised over the retreat, Zero will claim he doesn’t know anything about it.


26 posted on 02/05/2009 6:40:56 PM PST by cripplecreek (The poor bastards have us surrounded.)
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To: BobL

I want this to pass, and then have our crash tied exclusively to the Dems. It’s ugly for the country, but needs to happen for our long-term survival.”

Yes, it is the only thing we got left.


27 posted on 02/05/2009 6:42:47 PM PST by lookout88 (.)
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To: HD1200

Obama rants and raves about the excesses of Wall St CEOs.
He goes on tv almost hourly telling the American people how dire and precarious our lives are.
And then he brags about having an excuse to short hop on AF1 as if he was taking a test drive at the Prius dealer.
Tonight he was tone deaf , agitated, unpresidential and nasty.


28 posted on 02/05/2009 6:42:58 PM PST by Wild Irish Rogue
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To: HD1200
I have heard the "1 billion can be cut" crap most of the day, as well. I call BS. This is a dem setup, to get the sheeple and the weak sister RINOs on board with this fiasco...

No vote tonight. Harry Reid was "mistaken" about having the votes. Dems are losing moderate Democratic Senators on this bill.

Is this your speculation, or was this reported???

29 posted on 02/05/2009 6:44:06 PM PST by MamaLucci (Let's ALL "forget" to pay our taxes.....hey, Nobody's perfect....)
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To: HD1200
Webb the pedophile loving author farts and its sounds like he said something.

LLS

30 posted on 02/05/2009 6:47:08 PM PST by LibLieSlayer (hussein will NEVER be my president... NEVER!)
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To: HD1200

Thank God there are some D’s that actually think.


31 posted on 02/05/2009 6:47:11 PM PST by TribalPrincess2U (Welcome to Obama's America... Be afraid, be very afraid)
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To: Islander7

I’m with you. I posted the following on another thread:

And he took AIR FORCE ONE!!!

The distance from Wash ro Williamburg is about 150 miles. Why did he not take one of his three helicopters?? No, instead he probably racked up plus $200K in costs for security, flight and special seats for his friends and, in the process, actually took longer to get there!

More of the same from our elected royalty!


32 posted on 02/05/2009 6:47:32 PM PST by TCats
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To: originalbuckeye
...some of those are the welfare payments to people who don’t pay taxes.

My wife and I were ranting about that today. Irritated the ever living hell out of me that we're about to blow this deficit to the moon.

Now that I think about it. The moon race only cost about $237billion. Ok, we're gonna shoot this deficit to Saturn.

I'm quite curious how the tax cuts and massive welfare checks will compare to the expiration of the Bush tax cuts that are around the corner.

33 posted on 02/05/2009 6:47:33 PM PST by GOPyouth ("Uhhhhhhhhhh." - President B. Hussein Obama)
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To: Travis McGee

Is that pic photoshopped?


34 posted on 02/05/2009 6:47:37 PM PST by GQuagmire
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To: lookout88

Don’t waste any opportunities to remind liberals that the democrats could pass this any time they want but haven’t.


35 posted on 02/05/2009 6:48:03 PM PST by cripplecreek (The poor bastards have us surrounded.)
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To: GQuagmire

Not sure but I think there was some doubt about it.

In my opinion, it is. The hog is blurred and the boy is not.


36 posted on 02/05/2009 6:49:18 PM PST by TribalPrincess2U (Welcome to Obama's America... Be afraid, be very afraid)
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To: GQuagmire

It is a real picture and real story.


37 posted on 02/05/2009 6:53:24 PM PST by Boanarges
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To: Boanarges

Mmmmm.....bacon


38 posted on 02/05/2009 6:56:58 PM PST by GQuagmire
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To: GQuagmire
Looks like the boy is several feet behind the pig, and the shot is taken near the ground, very close to the pig.

Kind of like a picture of the moon between your index finger and thumb.

39 posted on 02/05/2009 6:57:08 PM PST by GOPyouth ("Uhhhhhhhhhh." - President B. Hussein Obama)
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To: HD1200

If a Dem says it has $100 Billion in fat, then we know that this bill must actually be 99.9% fat (which it is).


40 posted on 02/05/2009 7:07:14 PM PST by TheBattman (Pray for our country....)
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To: HD1200
From a Newt Gingrich email.

I'm sure by now you've heard of the almost one trillion dollar stimulus package moving through the U.S. Senate.

But it's not really a stimulus bill.  It's a big government, big corruption, and big pork bill.

Among many other wasteful, non-stimulative projects, it includes $650 million for digital TV coupons, $1 billion for climate satellite and habitat restoration programs, and $600 million to replace a portion of the federal government vehicle fleet.

In the video below, I lay out in stark terms exactly why this bill, as currently written, is not worthy of our support. Please take a moment to watch.




The Gallup Poll found that 54% of Americans either want to see major changes to the current plan, or they outright reject it.  Other surveys are also indicating that public support is plummeting.   Politicians can call it stimulus and they can call it change, but it's just more of the same - and the American people are starting to realize it.

That's why the time to act is now. With so much at stake, our elected officials need to hear from us.

Here is what you can do - pick up your phone and call your Senators right now at 202-224-3121. Let them know exactly what you think about how they intend to spend your hard-earned money.

The Senate is voting at the end of this week, so please make the call today.


41 posted on 02/05/2009 7:13:29 PM PST by Salvation ( †With God all things are possible.†)
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To: libh8er

“Jim Webb knows where the American public (= his constituents from a conservative state) stand on it.”

I’ll best my last dollar that his phones are ringing off the hook...”NO, NO, NO, NO, NO,”

This bill going down in flames will be good for the (somewhat) conservative blue-dogs. There power will increase proportionally to the loss of Pelosi-power.


42 posted on 02/05/2009 7:18:18 PM PST by jackofhearts (Unko bachana kaun chahega (Who will want to save them)??)
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To: Travis McGee
You have to understand DC inside baseball. Pork = some other politicians "earmark," and not your own. An earmark is something that is sponsored by a particular congressman, for his district and is specifically directed targeted spending within a bill, and not under the nominal discretion of the agency through whom the pork passes. What you all are complaining about is waste, which in DC is affectionately known as "programs." Program expenditures, after appropriation, are nominally under the control and oversight of the agency through whom the waste passes [though some "telephonic" direction may come from powerful committee chairmen].

Useful expenditures are also called programs so it is all very confusing to the unwashed.

43 posted on 02/05/2009 7:20:56 PM PST by AndyJackson
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To: lookout88

“Yes, it is the only thing we got left.”

Agree...unfortunately. We’ll be blamed for everything if we do manage to stop it (exclusively).


44 posted on 02/05/2009 7:35:07 PM PST by BobL
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To: BobL

We can’t stop it!! Rats have the votes. Let them own it. I hope Collins and Snowe vote for it. No one else.


45 posted on 02/05/2009 7:36:59 PM PST by lookout88 (.combat officer's dad,)
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To: AppyPappy

I emailed both Webb and Warner the day this bill passed the House. They responded saying that we need a stimulus but they recognized there are things in this bill that have to go.

Neither wants to be a one-term Senator.


46 posted on 02/05/2009 7:39:47 PM PST by ktupper
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To: HD1200

I would say more like 900 billion fat. Get rid of it.


47 posted on 02/05/2009 8:01:11 PM PST by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote.)
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To: freekitty

+1


48 posted on 02/05/2009 8:13:27 PM PST by mike-zed
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To: TCats

I seriously doubt they got the flaps up. That must have left a nice carbon footprint. No gas for you.


49 posted on 02/05/2009 8:17:19 PM PST by depressed in 06 (I'm becoming nostalgic for the incompetence of Carter.)
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To: AppyPappy

They remain in a panic. It’s a lot different when you have to answer for what you are so they will try and keep up the charade because Virginia isn’t that blue yet, but there is no doubt their true natures would like to tow the party line. This is proof the Demonrats don’t want to own this and their policies are nice in rhetoric yet a complete disaster they don’t want to take the fall for. Lost, empty, wicked souls every last one of ‘em.


50 posted on 02/06/2009 6:15:38 AM PST by bushfamfan (United States of America: July 4, 1776-November 4, 2008)
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