Skip to comments.ALERT: "They've Cut A Deal With Three Of Our Guys" [Byron York]
Posted on 02/06/2009 10:23:52 AM PST by Blue Turtle
Just got off the phone with an influential Republican senator. I asked how things stood with the stimulus, and he answered instantly, "They've cut a deal with three of our guys. They're delaying us from offering amendments. I suspect that as soon as they've got it written, they will offer it as an amendment, vote on it, and that will be it." He didn't have details on what the deal might be, but most Republicans seem to suspect it will involve relatively small cuts and very little change in the price tag of the bill from the House version that will be touted as a major bipartisan compromise. My senator suspects hopes? that no more than four Republicans will vote for the bill.
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DITTOS.. put me in your ‘militia’ too!
I’ve been trying to reach Specter’s office since 0800 and all I’ve gotten was a busy signal.
Was able to speak with a staffer at Casey’s office. Not much of a conversation, simply told him Casey should vote “no”, or else get used to being called, “the former senator Casey”.
Kick them out of the party.
At least that would be the most effective strategy to maintaining a “zero republican” policy on this abomination. It would also HIGHLIGHT the level of republican opposition to this disaster.
Disclaimer: I honestly don’t care what the republicans do. I no longer consider myself one, nor do I support the liberal members of that party. My above comment is simply what I would do in that situation.
Hah!...I think we still 'win' ... (although this is a contest -- who has the worst Senators - which has no winners) but barely... What is it about the West Coast?
When did the pod people invade our land?
It IS on the Internet.
Bill title is H.R. 1
My pleasure! The rinos are hiding behind ‘busy lines’...ie phones off the hook!
Maybe we can get a message to them through the RNC!
Publish names and phone numbers and vote them out of office at the first opportunity. I also urge each of us to call them to tell them what we think of their duplicity.
But, occasionally, McQueeg goes nuts and does something out of character, like suspending a presidential campaign to vote for Porkulus the First.
The 3 Moderate Stooges? no offense intended to Larry Curly or Moe..
Totally meaningless if they only got 3 Republicans to vote for their welfare and pork disaster.
You might be right on Lugar. I just heard Obama was going to Indiana on Monday.
I wonder...did this "deal" involve revealing the location of a certain "missing" quart of strawberries?
‘’And Grindsey Laham!’’
He wouldn’t dare after his performance on TV yesterday. It’s still possible he could go “for” it and then come out to say that the bill had been changed therefore, he felt compelled blah blah blah.......
In the scheme of the actual bill, no. This should be used as a time to cull any “Republican” of monetary support for election or re-election in the future though. I want Steele to cut them off!!
I think saying true would have been clearer in my last post.
Start melting the phone lines to these Senators:
Olympia Snowe: 202-434-5344
Susan Collins: 202-224-2523
Arlen Specter: 202-224-4254
Mel Martinez: 202-224-3041
Doesn’t this still have to go to the Conference Committee to join the two bills together with more “ironing” out?
Tell him to PUBLICLY and LOUDLY disassociate the republican party from those members who choose to aid the democrats.
That will throw a can of kerosene on the fire and attract even more attention to the disgusting tumor that is this “stimulus” bill.
I swear, I am ready to march. I am that angry.
“Tin soldiers & Obama coming....”
Anyway, Bush had his plusses. Going out on a limb for conservatives in tough cases was NOT one of them. It would be great if Toomey could gain some momentum.
I’ve already been told that Lugar will vote for the porkulus package. It’s common knowledge in Indiana. I sent him an email telling him not to vote for it but he doesn’t listen to the “uninformed masses.”
I just called Lugar’s office in DC and got right through. When I told the guy that answerered why I was calling and that I wanted Lugar to vote no, etc., etc., he sounded kind of disappointed.
I just read that Specter is the ring leader. I’ve been hitting redial for 20 minutes and nothing but a busy signal from his office. He should be tried for treason.
>>How can anybody with half a brain and a conscious vote for this crap?<<
They no longer have souls.
Three republicans does not a bi-partisan compromise make.
Collins office wouldn’t say whether she plans to vote for or against the bill. I’ll assume that means she has caved.
Ben Nelson (Democrat, Nebraska)
I'll see your Murray and Cantwell and raise you a Little Dick and Burris (guy who replaced the Messiah)
Either he was setting us up with some pre-surrender saber rattling, or he's going to try to show us what a Republican he is. (The latter being as laughable as when his buddy McCain claimed to be a "foot soldier in the Reagan Revolution").
I still predict that wobbly Mister Grahamnesty has his surrender flag at the ready; however, I would welcome some pleasent (however fake) courage under fire.
We know that Collins, Snowe, voinovich and Spectre are weak links in the republican side of the senate. What about Nelson, Dorgan,Who replaced Sanchez in CO, Hillary’s replacement, Bidens replacement and Burris. They have a chance to make history.
Thansk, Kansas Girl. It’s Dick Lugar, but he’s sounding more and more like Chuck Hagel, so the name change kinda fits. :-)
Yes, I do believe Specter has taken his phone off the hook. I did get through to Collins and Lugar’s DC offices. Neither office would say how they plan to vote.
HA! Oops, you are right! LOL.
Well, this deal Obamas got the better hand: theres just no way that it makes political sense for Republican Senators from any but the most conservative states to be standing there for any length of time while Obamas on national television every night saying This week we lost another hundred thousand American jobs while we waited for the Senate to act. He wont even have to mention Republicans - he will stand there, sounding bipartisan - and let the talking heads make his point for him - being tarred as obstructionist was deadly for Republicans when “they shut down the government during the Gingrich years and would probably even more damaging now.
So a lot of the Republican Senators who will be in front of cameras next week denouncing whatever package finally passes, and who will be appearing on Sunday talk shows to bemoan the Republican defectors who allow the bill to pass pass the following weekend, know perfectly well that those same sellouts took one for the team, allowing Republican senators in conservative states to oppose the bill without the national party paying the political price for preventing its passage.
This is just the down payment in a prolonged battle over stimulus/bailout/tax packages, depending on how the economy goes we are looking - including bailing out the financial sector, which absolutely must be propped up - at a minimum two .$2.5-$3 trillion dollars over the next two years, and if things really get out of control - which they just might - we could be looking at 5 trillion over the next few years.
So both sides are going to be digging in for the long haul.
Voinivich I am hearing is the 4th one.
Denial is one of the steps of grieving. It's not a pretty process, best done in private.
It doesn't matter. The final amendment will be in the form of a substitute for the entire bill on the floor, wiping out the original bill and all amendmenmts passed up to that point.
for what it’s worth I wrote my 2 Dem Senators
Of the two women from Maine, Collins is the least likely to vote for the stimulus package and thus needs calls like yesterday.
Don’t forget Voinivich who can NEVER be counted on to vote with Republicans.
Specter for sure!
Pick up the phone, FRiend!!
That will happen soon enough. If you know what you said. And the timeframe Crosby, Stills and Nash came out with that song.
So far, Obama has pissed off about 10 countries and got about twice that scared as hell.
But is 3 or 4 enough to give Obama the cover he needs??
Agree. I got an email from McCain saying he does NOT support the bill. But, of course, he may cave.
Not even close to being enough cover. The ones voting are the liberal Republicans so IMHO there is no cover for ZERO.
When you get Lindsey Graham and John McCain saying this bill is full of pork and a bad bill, then we have all the Fiscal Conservatives on board which is the vast majority of what is left of Republicans in the Senate.
Should be interesting. I have the Senate telecast on mute as Dodd speaks with his forked tongue.