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Doctor loses license in live birth abortion case (Dr. Pierre Jean-Jacques Renelique)
CNN ^ | February 7, 2009 | Kim Segal

Posted on 02/07/2009 3:06:49 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

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To: festus

53% of the voters in the US (let’s not talk about vote fraud) obviously approve of this procedure as a woman’s right.


21 posted on 02/07/2009 4:20:26 PM PST by Eagles6 ( Typical White Guy: Christian, Constitutionalist, Heterosexual, Redneck. (Let them eat arugula!))
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

What is it about murder that liberals don’t understand?? IT IS THE WILLFUL TAKING OF A HUMAN LIFE unless it is on the battlefield or for self defense. I hardly think a newborn baby represents a threat.


22 posted on 02/07/2009 4:21:30 PM PST by jesseam (Been there and done that!)
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To: nobama08

The mother went for an abortion with the intent of killing her child, but the doctor failed to kill the child until after it was born and now the mother who wanted the child dead is suing because the child is dead? I’m confused.


“This is not about a pot of gold,” said Tom Pennekamp, her attorney

There’s your answer. She saw a pot of gold.


23 posted on 02/07/2009 4:46:05 PM PST by eaglestar
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Don’t worry. Obama will protect this guy. Remember, he voted against making the Boran alive Infants protection Act, which would have outlawed this very practice.


24 posted on 02/07/2009 4:47:33 PM PST by TBP
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To: nobama08
The mother went for an abortion with the intent of killing her child, but the doctor failed to kill the child until after it was born and now the mother who wanted the child dead is suing because the child is dead? I’m confused.

Indeed... As am I, but neither of us are more "confused" than this "mother" apparently is...

the infowarrior

25 posted on 02/07/2009 9:54:58 PM PST by infowarrior
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To: Jean S
The staff worker who dropped the live baby into a bag should be arrested for murder too.

Oh absolutely!

How in the world can any thinking person do such a thing?

26 posted on 02/08/2009 4:27:34 AM PST by Northern Yankee (Freedom Needs A Soldier)
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To: reaganbooster
Wrong. If one wants to kill the children that God gave them the responsibility to raise then that is no one else's business. Just as Jesus Christ told Peter to put away the sword so too should we Christians trust God and let Him defend His children.

Radical I know but you can't show me one place in scripture where God's people are instructed to interfere in other people's family business. Likewise those families should not force me to pay for their ungodly, unholy decisions.

If a liberal tramp wants to murder her child... let her. Then enforce whatever laws society has to punish a murderer and implement them on all that took part in the torture and execution of another human being.

JMHO

PS... {Mark 10:18b} there is none good (innocent) but one, that is, God. -- {Romans 3:23} For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God; -- {Exodus 20:5b} I the LORD thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me; -- {John 3:3) Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God. (This includes babies)

27 posted on 02/08/2009 5:50:02 AM PST by The Anti-One (So likewise ye, when ye shall see all these things, know that it is near, even at the doors.)
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To: The Anti-One

I certainly love yur passion on this issue, but I think we will have to agree to disagree.

My Christian beliefs tell me that abortion is murder. If you lived next door to this same liberal mother and she was was threatening to kill her child in the back yard, would you just let it happen? I won’t speak for you, but I would physically intervene or call police. I would feel pretty bad if I watched this mother kill her child right in front of me. At this point, the mothers politics don’t mean squat to me. Abortion is no different, except that it is done in a private legal medical setting. The Bible says to help your neighbor. It doesn’t say only help those people who believe in God. Our Christian ideals and beliefs of helping every human being makes us unique. I don’t think God put us on this earth to ignore people(or babies) that are in physical or moral danger. Some of the most committed Christians in the world are those liberal
tramps who somehow, through the grace of God, were convinced the errors of their ways. We shold never stop striving to reach those souls.

I agree with you that I hate this current system. I truly despise it. But, if we don’t oppose all abortions as morally wrong, we will never have the chance to overturn the current liberal laws.


28 posted on 02/08/2009 6:27:45 AM PST by reaganbooster
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To: reaganbooster
Ok... Here we are, both calling ourselves Christians, both hating the murder of babies but for me.... I personally hate the murder of anyone and like sin, in my mind there is NO degree of sin any greater than another except for blaspheme of the Holy Ghost. Murdering either an adult or a child is equally just as morally repulsive as the other and society has laws to deal with those that commit the crimes.
My issue is do I, as a Christian, have any moral responsibility to stop people from sinning? Who gives me the authority to step in and violate another person's free and sovereign will? Certainly not God. If God were into violating people's free and sovereign will no one would ever sin.
No... Christians like me are "in the world but not of the world." It's not my job to force anyone to accept God. My job is to "preach the gospel" and let God's word do it's work. I've learned to Trust God.

Now... I asked for scriptural support for forcing our enemies to stop killing themselves.
Do you have any?
29 posted on 02/08/2009 6:56:09 AM PST by The Anti-One (So likewise ye, when ye shall see all these things, know that it is near, even at the doors.)
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To: The Anti-One

Love thy neighbor. I interpret this basic bible passage as helping my neighbor in need. Yes, that means saving his or her life or the life of others in their family. I think this is pretty basic and clear. I’m not forcing them to stop killing themselves or believe in God but I should make an attempt to convince them that there is another way.


30 posted on 02/08/2009 7:06:08 AM PST by reaganbooster
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

This entire sick mindset befuddles me. Besides the obvious incredulity that a baby would be put in a bag alive and thrown in the garbage (which is the focus of the story), you have a girl who was trying to kill her baby who is now upset, and seeking damages because her baby was killed in a different manner than she wanted it killed.


31 posted on 02/08/2009 7:13:21 AM PST by big'ol_freeper (You tell me that you've got everything you want, And your bird can sing, But you don't get me)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Has Obama come to the defense of the murderous doctor yet?


32 posted on 02/08/2009 7:15:24 AM PST by comps4spice
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To: reaganbooster

Do what makes you happy.


33 posted on 02/08/2009 7:25:06 AM PST by The Anti-One (So likewise ye, when ye shall see all these things, know that it is near, even at the doors.)
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To: The Anti-One

James 1:27
Religion that God our Father accepts as pure and faultless is this: to look after orphans and widows in their distress and to keep oneself from being polluted by the world.

I believe that once a mother decides to have an abortion, the child is an orphan. I don’t think allowing our “enemies” to kill their own is in any way justifiable before God. I understand your argument of free and sovreign will, but to allow murder of children is to take away the will of that child, who we don’t what he/she will decide to do with their own life.


34 posted on 02/08/2009 9:43:17 AM PST by 3xIraqVet
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To: 3xIraqVet
James 1:27 - Pure religion and undefiled before God and the Father is this, To visit the fatherless and widows in their affliction, and to keep himself unspotted from the world. (KJV)

Revamped scriptures don't work with me. You all can do what you want but know this. God demonstrated for us how He handled others murdering others. He let it happen and then administered His just judgments.
I wouldn't be here if abortion were legal 80 years ago and neither would any of my seven siblings or my four children or my grandchild. I hate abortion but I know God and His written word. Even in your revamed "New International Version" of the Bible this scripture does NOT tell us stop women from murdering their children. What it does tell us however is to not be soiled by their deeds. We are NOT to partake in any way which for me means I am not to assist them in their debauchery in any way including paying for it.

You want to stand up against Congress' desire to make me pay for the murder of children I am with you all the way but I'll not stop someone from inflicting harm upon their own.

Sorry!

35 posted on 02/08/2009 10:47:39 AM PST by The Anti-One (So likewise ye, when ye shall see all these things, know that it is near, even at the doors.)
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