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Islam group urges forest fire jihad
Canada Free Press ^ | September 7, 2008 | Josh Gordon

Posted on 02/09/2009 8:55:05 AM PST by george76

AUSTRALIA has been singled out as a target for “forest jihad” by a group of Islamic extremists urging Muslims to deliberately light bushfires as a weapon of terror.

US intelligence channels earlier this year identified a website calling on Muslims in Australia, the US, Europe and Russia to “start forest fires”, claiming “scholars have justified chopping down and burning the infidels’ forests when they do the same to our lands”.

The website, posted by a group called the Al-Ikhlas Islamic Network, argues in Arabic that lighting fires is an effective form of terrorism justified in Islamic law under the “eye for an eye” doctrine.

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TOPICS: Australia/New Zealand; Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: arson; bushfire; forestfire; forestfires; forestjihad; globaljihad; gwot; islam; jihad; muslim; muslims; religionofpeace; rop; terrorism; tm; trop; wot
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1 posted on 02/09/2009 8:55:05 AM PST by george76
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To: george76

scary stuff.....stay alert


2 posted on 02/09/2009 8:57:07 AM PST by anniegetyourgun
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To: Aussie Dasher

Ping.


3 posted on 02/09/2009 8:57:14 AM PST by Army Air Corps (Four fried chickens and a coke)
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To: txflake; nuconvert; Bender2; CedarDave

Ping.

Considering how dry much of the US southwest is these days, we may want to keep our eyes sharp.


4 posted on 02/09/2009 8:59:05 AM PST by Army Air Corps (Four fried chickens and a coke)
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To: george76

Then I guess we really can’t blame the Aussies for torching every mosque they can find.


5 posted on 02/09/2009 8:59:38 AM PST by Trod Upon (The Left killed my country.)
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To: george76

I thought “Climate Change” was causing the fires? Whatever will the libbies do now? You can’t burn down the trees, but you can’t offend the Muslims either! What a quandary, indeed. </sarc>


6 posted on 02/09/2009 9:01:03 AM PST by Red Reign (Storm clouds gather. Fear not, it's a Red Reign that's coming.)
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To: george76

“scholars have justified chopping down and burning the infidels’ forests when they do the same to our lands”.”

Forests? Forests grow in the sand? what ever...

Our forests will be burned down by the Mexican drug cartels growing dope in them before the Jihadi’s get around to it.


7 posted on 02/09/2009 9:03:37 AM PST by AuntB (The right to vote in America: Blacks 1870; Women 1920; Native Americans 1925; Foreigners 2008)
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To: anniegetyourgun

Do you think they’ll torch the WH?


8 posted on 02/09/2009 9:03:40 AM PST by Conservativegreatgrandma (When the righteous rule, the people rejoice; when the wicked rule the people mourn. Proverbs 29;2)
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To: george76
Too bad Australia has banned guns. They are under attack by the Islamists.
9 posted on 02/09/2009 9:04:49 AM PST by Myrddin
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To: Army Air Corps

yup


10 posted on 02/09/2009 9:05:09 AM PST by nuconvert ( Khomeini promised change too // Hail, Chairman O)
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To: Trod Upon

“Then I guess we really can’t blame the Aussies for torching every mosque they can find.”

Whether that is a justified response or not, but is surely to happen.


11 posted on 02/09/2009 9:05:27 AM PST by DonaldC
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To: Army Air Corps
Considering how dry much of the US southwest is these days, we may want to keep our eyes sharp.

I'm firmly convinced that most of the fires in California last year and the year before were acts of arson. Idaho had bad fires around Ketchum last year. The year before, we had over 2 million acres burned. We went for weeks with smoke in the air in eastern Idaho.

12 posted on 02/09/2009 9:06:47 AM PST by Myrddin
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To: naturalman1975

Ping


13 posted on 02/09/2009 9:07:17 AM PST by null and void (We are now in day 21 of our national holiday from reality.)
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To: george76
AUSTRALIA has been singled out as a target for “forest jihad” by a group of Islamic extremists urging Muslims to deliberately light bushfires as a weapon of terror.

Considering how much of Australia's gone up in recent firestorms, I'd say someone's already started down this path.

14 posted on 02/09/2009 9:07:38 AM PST by Centurion2000 (01-20-2009 : The end of the PAX AMERICANA.)
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To: DonaldC
Time to round them up and deport them from the country.
15 posted on 02/09/2009 9:07:52 AM PST by Myrddin
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To: george76

Interestingly, they haven’t identified the two youths who were arrested.


16 posted on 02/09/2009 9:08:18 AM PST by bgill
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To: george76

islam justifies all terrorism


17 posted on 02/09/2009 9:10:21 AM PST by machogirl (not one of Rush's top-ten gal names)
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To: bgill
Yutes? I thought they only burned Peugeots. (Who can blame them for that?)
18 posted on 02/09/2009 9:19:20 AM PST by null and void (We are now in day 21 of our national holiday from reality.)
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To: george76

—good to see Summit County (Colorado) working on prevention—

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/2180955/posts


19 posted on 02/09/2009 9:22:45 AM PST by rellimpank (--don't believe anything the MSM tells you about firearms or explosives--NRA Benefactor)
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To: rellimpank

Everyone should work on prevention.

BHO is bring Hamas to America.

http://www.newmediajournal.us/staff/p_williams/2009/print/02072009.htm


20 posted on 02/09/2009 9:27:54 AM PST by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: Myrddin

I agree with your assessment...


21 posted on 02/09/2009 9:29:36 AM PST by Dubh_Ghlase (Therefore, send not to know For whom the bell tolls, It tolls for thee.)
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To: george76
Very interesting indeed.... wow if it's true...?
22 posted on 02/09/2009 9:33:06 AM PST by vimto (To do the right thing you don't have to be intelligent - you have to be brave (Sasz))
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To: vimto

the Islamic Crusade is going West.

some Protestant theologians, in their writings, are using the phrase “post-Christian” era – and they mean now?


23 posted on 02/09/2009 9:35:49 AM PST by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: Dubh_Ghlase
The current rain will bring lots of new grass in the Spring. That will be tinder dry by July. How will California pay the firefighters in the coming fire season? It's coming whether there is money or not.
24 posted on 02/09/2009 9:42:13 AM PST by Myrddin
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To: george76

Now, we’re not supposed to say these murderers are Muslims, urged on by Muslim clerics. That would be politically incorrect. Report to your left-wing commissar immediately!


25 posted on 02/09/2009 9:47:19 AM PST by popdonnelly (The problem with Obama is that he believes his own hype.)
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To: george76

Islam is of the devil.


26 posted on 02/09/2009 9:51:57 AM PST by GinaLolaB (=^..^=)
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To: popdonnelly

BHO does not say : War on Terror.


27 posted on 02/09/2009 9:52:48 AM PST by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: george76

I’ve been predicting this for Southern California since 9-11. I’m glad that I’ve been wrong so far.


28 posted on 02/09/2009 9:59:01 AM PST by TommyTrojan
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To: TommyTrojan

Get ready.

BHO is bringing Hamas to America.


29 posted on 02/09/2009 10:01:01 AM PST by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: Myrddin
Too bad Australia has banned guns.

I heard somewhere (can't recall source, sorry) that there was a run on large-diameter PVC pipe right after that law passed. Can't think why.

30 posted on 02/09/2009 10:55:15 AM PST by nina0113 (Hugh Akston is my hero.)
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To: george76

News reports from Australia state that not all these fires are “natural”
They have been started on purpose.

When will the American populace see Islam for what it really is?


31 posted on 02/09/2009 11:10:25 AM PST by ridesthemiles
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To: george76
Oh yes, in truth we have been post Christian for some time in terms of lack of belief.

But theologians (Protestant and Catholic) see it not only about belief but more generally the influence that the faith has on society in terms of values, morals, law, culture, politics, music etc....

The left's agenda has been to hasten this ‘brave new world’ where everything is relative and no viewpoint more valid than another.

If there is one thing to be said for Islam - they have never fallen for this liberal lie. Islam has been too ignorant to say ‘yes' to the multi-culti dream, too many Christians have been to effete to say ‘no’ to it.

32 posted on 02/09/2009 11:11:41 AM PST by vimto (To do the right thing you don't have to be intelligent - you have to be brave (Sasz))
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To: george76

I’m willing to bet my next issue of the Limbaugh Letter that none of this gets into the mainstream media. Even if it’s proven that the fires were set by members of the Cult of Death.


33 posted on 02/09/2009 12:14:47 PM PST by Leftism is Mentally Deranged (liberalism = serious mental deficiency)
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To: george76
We can start fires in their countries, too.


34 posted on 02/09/2009 12:17:56 PM PST by Lazamataz (Proudly misinterpreting article headlines since 1999.)
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To: Myrddin

Australia hasn’t banned guns. There are strict restrictions on ‘high powered’ weapons (some of which are actually high powered) and handguns and you need the right licences to own them, but there are millions of firearms in private hands in Australia.


35 posted on 02/09/2009 1:19:55 PM PST by naturalman1975 ("America was under attack. Australia was immediately there to help." - John Winston Howard)
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To: ridesthemiles

Heard that some fires were re-started after the fire fighters put them out.

Arson for sure.


36 posted on 02/09/2009 1:26:19 PM PST by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: Leftism is Mentally Deranged

The old media will not report the truth.


37 posted on 02/09/2009 1:27:50 PM PST by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: naturalman1975
Australia hasn’t banned guns. There are strict restrictions on ‘high powered’ weapons (some of which are actually high powered) and handguns and you need the right licences to own them, but there are millions of firearms in private hands in Australia.

That's good news. A few months back a read an article written by a motorcycle magazine reviewer. He rode across southern Australia on a Suzuki DR650 (like the one I purchased last August). It sounded like a rugged trip. 200 miles between gas stations. Extreme heat. Lots of dead kangaroos on the roadside. He enjoyed his visits to the towns along the way. I hope not too many of them have been destroyed in the fire.

I'm trying to resurrect a contact with a train operator who pulls cars from Perth to Adelaide. There was some interest in some monitoring technology I was showing at the Sept 2003 RSI show in Chicago. The technology is better now and more suited to his requirements. It might be an excellent opportunity to pay a visit down under. Take care!

38 posted on 02/09/2009 1:32:48 PM PST by Myrddin
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To: Myrddin

Round ‘em up and set fire to them.

“Eye for an eye”... and all that.


39 posted on 02/09/2009 4:59:58 PM PST by gogogodzilla (Live free or die!)
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To: GinaLolaB
Islam is of the devil.

Even the devil resents such an association.

40 posted on 02/09/2009 5:00:20 PM PST by norraad ("What light!">Blues Brothers)
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To: Myrddin
Too bad Australia has banned guns.
What's the history of that? The people voted gun bans into law?
41 posted on 02/09/2009 5:04:46 PM PST by samtheman
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To: ridesthemiles

>When will the American populace see Islam for what it really is?<

It’ll take a very long time — we just put one in the WH.


42 posted on 02/09/2009 5:05:36 PM PST by 353FMG (The name is Beam, James Beam.)
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To: Lazamataz

We are too politically correct to even contemplate that.


43 posted on 02/09/2009 5:07:17 PM PST by 353FMG (The name is Beam, James Beam.)
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To: Pyro7480; narses; NYer; Salvation; AdmSmith; Aquinasfan; Siobhan; Maeve; XR7; SJackson; ...
US intelligence channels earlier this year identified a website calling on Muslims in Australia, the US, Europe and Russia to “start forest fires”....
The posting — which instructs jihadis to remember “forest jihad” in summer months — says fires cause economic damage and pollution, tie up security agencies and can take months to extinguish so that “this terror will haunt them for an extended period of time”.

jihad ping

44 posted on 02/09/2009 7:16:52 PM PST by Dajjal (Obama is an Ericksonian NLP hypnotist.)
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To: Dajjal
guess there'll be no donations or sympathy from this lot, BUT IT'S GOOD TO KNOW HOW THE AUSTRALIAN MUSLIMS THINK:

"They burned in this life, and will burn in the next. النَّارُ وَعَدَهَا اللَّهُ الَّذِينَ كَفَرُوا ۖ وَبِئْسَ الْمَصِيرُ

"I got an email asking for blood donations, entitled 'Australia's worst bushfire disaster: Victoria 09 - what can we do?' (kind of reminded me of another email - 'Gaza Massacre - what can you do?', but the latter deserved attention, and the former deserved the trash can). There's no way my blood is going to run in the veins of some kaafir, nor will I be going out of my way to show any sympathy, pity or offering help. These people are muharibeen, and under the threat of Allah'a 'adhab.

"So my attitude is ha ha serve you right, but may Allah spare the Muslim Ummah of a similar affliction." "My husband read other news and told me of something phenomenal , the bushfire which they calculated happened and was heading at an expected direction. Families of firefighters and those involved were told to stay at a certain area which they through their technology predicted very safe. The course of the bushfire changed violently and like a sea of fire rushed through and was coming so fast those families didnt have time to escape. It came so fast it burnt the trunks of trees and the leaves on top were still green. It was as if it was a deliberate act of God. For a nation which seem indifferent about the mass murder of other people around the world, it would seem that one ofa small scale has boomeranged home."

SOURCE

45 posted on 02/09/2009 8:23:54 PM PST by Fred Nerks (fair dinkum!)
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To: george76

VICTORIA Police soon expect to release a photofit image of a suspected arsonist in the Churchill area days before the Gippsland inferno.

Crime Department Assistant Commissioner Dannye Moloney said two separate arson investigations were under way in the Churchill area in central Gippsland.

“Approximately five to seven days beforehand there were a number of other fires up in that area,” he said.

“There are suspicious fires out there. The Churchill fires, as far as we can conclude at this stage, must be considered as suspicious and that is being investigated as we speak.”

http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/story/0,21985,25034780-5018723,00.html


46 posted on 02/09/2009 8:39:41 PM PST by Fred Nerks (fair dinkum!)
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To: Fred Nerks

Thanks.

I hope that you, your family, and friends are ok.


47 posted on 02/09/2009 9:45:16 PM PST by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: george76

We are thousands of miles away, but I grew up in Victoria and know the region where the fires are very well. It’s always very dry in summer, but this year has been particularly hot and dry, with temperatures around 117 degrees.

Can’t do much but donate and pray...and hope the arsonists are caught and locked up.


48 posted on 02/09/2009 10:35:30 PM PST by Fred Nerks (fair dinkum!)
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To: Dajjal

Thanks for the ping.

This Australian summer (2009), we have had extreme weather (and a heatwave, in southern parts of Australia, mostly “inland” - but even Tasmania!). Victoria and South Australia to mention two key States for bushfires. Temperatures in upper 30’s, and, up to mid 40’s Celsius, on an ongoing basis & continuous days, longer than usual (and, no respite inbetween). These bushland/forest areas usually are dry, much more so this summer, with tragic results (not just due to bushfires).

Similarly, extreme weather conditions caused massive flooding in Northern Queensland (Ingham for example) in Feb 2009.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2009/02/07/2484964.htm

Other factors to consider: Dry & strong winds, mostly from mid Australia, which is mainly desert, little to no percipitation, close to both Victorian and South Australian States. A combination of very strong winds, some close to 30kms per hour or stronger, which can change direction at very little notice in advance for the weather bureau, hard to forecast in advance, can combine with dry weather conditions, and bush/forest areas, to add fuel to fire, resulting in what we have seen this summer in parts of Australia.

Unlike the US, where rural residents are forced to evacuate well before the flames arrive, many of those living in Australia’s sparsely populated bush are prepared to defend their homes from wildfire. National radio spots commonly remind people to be ready or leave early: If you can see the flames, it is too late to leave.

The stay and defend approach became common practice throughout Australia after the country’s previous most deadly fires in 1983, when 75 people were killed – most in their own homes. Officials stress that those who are not prepared to stay – or lack the nerve to see it through – should not attempt the strategy.

Quite of few who died this summer, according to Australian MSM, chose to leave the fire-storm affected areas too late.

Major Australian bushfires:

February 1967 - The Tasmanian fires killed 62 people and burnt through 264,270 hectares in the state’s south in the space of five hours. The worst of the 110 fires was a blaze which ripped through Hobart, destroying many homes.

February 1983 - The Ash Wednesday bushfires claimed 47 lives in Victoria and 28 in South Australia. About 180 bushfires raged in both states, the largest of them starting in Victoria. Within days the fires had burnt through 520,000 hectares, destroying 3700 buildings, 1000 farms, 340,000 sheep and 18,000 cattle.

January 1994 - Four people died and a million hectares of bushland was destroyed when fires spread out of control in Sydney and surrounding areas.

January 1997 - Three people died in Dandenong Ranges fires in Victoria.

January 2003 - Firestorms fanned by high winds hit Canberra on Saturday January 18, 2003, killing four people. The fires swept through several suburbs causing massive destruction of homes, forests and parklands.

January 2005 - A bushfire killed at least eight people* and destroyed property on South Australia’s Eyre Peninsula. The death toll is expected to climb as the blaze continues to burn out of control.

http://www.smh.com.au/news/National/Major-bushfires-in-Australias-history/2005/01/11/1105423483769.html

Prior to 2009, we have not had so many deaths due to bushfires in Australia.

Arsonists have ALWAYS been suspected (since 1983 at least), and, mostly, are responsible for deliberately lighting fires, during summer and in extreme heat in Australia. Without wanting to hold a specific group of persons responsible for such callous and murderous acts, these “arsonists”, I think, should be held for more than just arson. And, Australian authorities should always improve both their anticipation of such situations & weather conditions, as well as their ability to deal with it, before, and during these events, and all around.

“Victoria bushfires stoked by green vote”

http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,25197,25031389-7583,00.html


49 posted on 02/10/2009 3:46:09 AM PST by odds
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To: george76; nuconvert

See #49


50 posted on 02/10/2009 3:50:05 AM PST by odds
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