Skip to comments.Darwin Losing in the Polls (bad news for Darwin's Bicentennial "Celebration")
Posted on 02/12/2009 10:39:56 AM PST by GodGunsGuts
Darwin Losing in the Polls
Feb 12, 2009 Many scientists are celebrating Darwin as the greatest scientist in history on his Bicentennial, but public support for his theory is slipping. A new Zogby poll shows significant erosion over the past few years over the question of whether evolution only should be taught, and a new Gallup poll shows only a minority believe in evolution.
The results of the Zogby poll are explained on Evolution News with graphs. The demographics indicate that it is not just church-goers who support academic freedom to teach the strengths and weaknesses of evolutionary theory; a large majority of those calling themselves liberals, college grads and Democrats also responded affirmative to the question, Would you strongly agree, somewhat agree, somewhat disagree, or strongly disagree that teachers and students should have the academic freedom to discuss both the strengths and weaknesses of evolution as a scientific theory? Young adults were among the strongest in agreement.
Evolution News in another article pointed out that the poll shows support for teaching strengths and weaknesses of evolution has risen 9 percentage points since a similar poll in 2006....
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...dedicated to the proposition that all men are created equal.... that this nation, under God, shall have a new birth of freedom....
Abraham Lincoln, Gettysburg Address, 1863.
But then with me the horrid doubt always arises whether the convictions of mans mind, which has been developed from the mind of the lower animals, are of any value or at all trustworthy. Would any one trust in the convictions of a monkey's mind, if there are any convictions in such a mind?
Charles Darwin, Letter to William Graham, 1881. Died 1882.
Darwin Bicentennial Ping!
Whereas, on the twelfth day of February, in the year of our Lord two thousand nine, a proclamation was issued by the, people of the world, containing, among other things, the following, to wit:
That on the twelfth day of February, in the year of our Lord two thousand nine,
all Darwin doubters held as captives within any scientific community or designated
part of an academic institution, the people whereof shall then be in rebellion
against the Darwin Party, shall be then, thenceforward, and forever free; and the
administration of any institution, including the hiring and firing authority thereof,
will recognize and maintain the freedom of such persons, and will do no act or
acts to expel such persons, or any of them, in any efforts they may make for
their actual freedom of inquiry.
That on this day, hereby to be designated Academic Freedom Day, that inquiries
into the actual nature of the living things, including their design, and their
functional information, and their origins, shall henceforth be decoupled from any
and all slavish requirement of metaphysical naturalism, or any other such limits
on free and honest investigation toward following the evidence where it leads, as
befits the quest to discover and understand the sources and operations of nature.
And upon this act, sincerely believed to be an act of justice, warranted by the
principles of noble science, upon academic necessity, I invoke the considerate
judgment of mankind, and the gracious favor of Almighty God.
The Spirit of A. Lincoln
Academic Freedom Day
Dumbest poll question of the year to date.
A better question would have been:
Should Evolution and Creationism be taught in public schools?
Those results would be much more interesting than a question that actually reflects what Darwin proposed in the first place.
anti-science folks are almost as good at playing the victim card as Liberals
Evolution should be taught in school. Creationism should be taught in sunday school. If parents dont like it, home school your children.
How does this mean Darwin is ‘losing’ in the Polls? Just because people support the academic freedom to debate the strengths and weaknesses of his theory and those of ID, doesn’t mean they support ID instead of evolution.
I mean, everyone should support academic freedom, right? Doesn’t mean you can’t think some of the theories being discussed aren’t a load of contrived rubbish....
Incidently, I wonder if Darwin himself would have agreed with the idea that his idea should be the only one discussed and that ID should be banned from discourse. I doubt it....
I clarify further: evolution should be taught in science class. Creation should be taught in religion class.
Losing at the polls means a scientific theory is wrong?
That implies that Republicans losing elections means conservatism is wrong.
you forget that Republicans are not conservative
I always liked the first part of evolution where random minerals evolved into living tissue.
It's almost like a miracle, isn't it?
I homeschool (and teach evolution, for the record) and could not agree with you more.
Happy Birthday, Charles Darwin!
You're confusing evolution by means of natural selection with abiogenesis. Evolution states simply that populations change over time.
Re: the poll in the article... truth isn't decided by a vote.
I thought the article was going to be about a opinion poll taken on the greatest scientists. I haven’t read anything touting Darwin as the greatest scientist. I wouldn’t even place him in the top 100 using those parameters of determination I think valid.
I do not care one bit whether anyone ever learns about evolution or not. The theory produces nothing of value nor is it likely ever to do so. I suppose I see the best scientific discovery as that which is beneficial to mankind and moves us forward and not that which has little or no benefit and mires us in the time and chance of ooze.
This is absolutely unequivocally untrue. But what does one expect from a Creationist website?
There are Darwin Bicentennial celebrations going on all over the world and in the US as we speak.
It is...that is why it is the basis of Theistic evolution.
Looks like a couple of trends to me,based on age and education.
The scientific method does not include the use of polls as proof of a theory.
Nope, not even close. It would have been a miracle if the raw elements of the universe did not evolve into life given the conditions we know to have existed.
“The scientific method does not include the use of polls as proof of a theory.”
Except when the evos say, “there’s a scientific consensus on evolution.”
Consensus is a euphemism for “can’t be tested and shown to be true”.
Who said this? Please provide a link that shows the context of this being said.
I am tired of these Keith Olbermann type half truths creeping into the debates about evolution. Since when did it become okay for conservatives to use the tactics of the liberal left?
Don't you guys ever get tired of this old straw man.
No one here is anti-science, it is always about junk science, declared to be real science.
Many science fields are bought and sold to the highest bidder, either directly or through grants. Many so called Scientist propagate these threads, getting all offended by the luddites that point out their inanities.
Scientists can and does lie, either to support their agenda, or for money.
Anyone that can show that this never happens, be my guest.
If we know the conditions that existed I guess it won't be long until those conditions are duplicated in a lab somewhere and we will have some new life forms created by man. No extraterrestrial deity needed if it just takes some scientists, primordial goop and energy.
Maybe they could brew up some carrier pigeons - I would like to see them come back.
That will probably happen right after they figure out how to make an efficient alternative fuel to replace petroleum - one that doesn't take more energy to produce than it makes.
That's why Creationists use the Community Organizing method.
Thanks for the ping!
I actually agree that science goes to the highest bidder, I see it all the time
I just get sick of people trying to use the Bible as a science text. By all means, let’s line up evolution and Genesis side by side and see which is better supported by the evidence. It will take all of about 2 seconds and then we can move on.
How would you feel if someone said “my kid’s science class does not mention that lightening is actually Zeus throwing bolts from Mt Olympus, so my theory needs equal treatment” ?