Skip to comments.White House provides plane to senator for key stimulus vote
Posted on 02/13/2009 9:41:35 PM PST by james500
The White House has provided the use of a government airplane to a key Democratic senator in order to ensure the availability of what may prove to be the deciding 60th vote in favor of the $787 billion economic stimulus package.
Sen. Sherrod Brown, D-Ohio, has returned to his home state to attend a wake for his 88-year-old mother, who died February 2 from complications from leukemia. At the end of the wake, Brown will be flown from Mansfield, Ohio, to Andrews Air Force Base.
After he casts his vote, he will return to Ohio for his mother's funeral early Saturday.
The plane is being provided by the White House, Brown's office said, because the vote is considered "official business," and there are no commercial flights available that would allow him to cast the vote and return to Ohio for his mother's funeral Saturday morning.
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So much for the separation of powers. We live in a fascist state.
Fetid Dem Senators grill bank CEOs and excoriate them about having private aircraft. Then same Fetid Dem Senators fly on military aircraft to get to a vote. Even worse, Queen Pelosi has a 767 at her beck and call to fly between CA and DC. Good God, I hate the ruling class in the US. Why can’t we throw all these schmucks into a swamp and elect some real Americans who understand representative democracy?
“Um, teacher? I have a question, teacher! I thought you said that Congress and the presidency were two separate branches of government!”
Good grief! This has to be passed so urgently, they are flying a man in between the wake and funeral of his mother!!
This is a bloody nightmare.
So if he is the 60th vote, who voted for Coleman/Franken seat and who is the official deadtome Republican that voted for it?
The Obama Regime is recapitulating the history of the Democrat party isn't it.
So it is written, so it is done.
PharOh will provide.
He should’ve driven a Chevy.
Equal but SEPERATE...
I want my children to study this fact very clearly. This article is the exact moment in time that the Republic known as the United States of America ceased to exist as we knew it.
Could you imagine if President Bush pulled the same thing for an important vote in Congress? Oberwoman would have blown a fuse.
I am just going to copy what I wrote on another thread about this. The short version is that any multi-hundred-billion-dollar company that sends its CEO around on commercial airlines is grossly irresponsible. This is class warfare of the most distorted kind. The time of a top-level officer of such a company genuinely IS worth more than the cost of charter air travel. The cost of having said ceo spend 100 hours a year checking in, 2 full work-days a year lost to missed connections/delays, etc., is huge. My previous post -
“the entire class warfare stuff about corporate planes is really being distorted beyond reason, at least in terms of the need of corporate officers to get to point B from point A without spending the night in atlanta (or DFW ORD DTW MSP etc) when their flight is late and their connection gone, not to mention the hours spend in check-in, baggage claim, etc.
If you are CEO or other major officer of a major company (billions in revenue), the cost to the company of you being out of functional circulation, particularly unplanned as in cxled flights, is just too high to justify risking flying Delta. Whether the company charters, leases, owns, etc., is in part semantics. I dont doubt that planes are used by officers for recreational motives also, but imagine one of those ceos at the congressional hearing not showing up because delta had an equipment issue.”
Exactly right.The issue isn’t the gas spent on a one passenger mission, it is the Executive Branch directly facilitating a critical Legislative function. In the past even the worst Presidents would have known that it was just wrong. The music has died.
**berating the use of corporate jets as wasteful spending **
Exactly. Obama is guilty here. Wasting fuel and energy.
Gas and spending has nothing to do with this!
The EXECUTIVE BRANCH jetted a member of the LEGISLATIVE branch to do the EXECUTIVE BRANCH’s bidding.
Do you NOT UNDERSTAND THE IMPLICATIONS HERE?
DO YOU NOT UNDERSTAND WHAT THIS MEANS FOR OUR ONCE NATION?
I’M SCREAMING BECAUSE THIS IS HUGE!
Does anyone understand this except Controlling Legal Authority???
Posts #3 10 and 14 “get” it.
Thank you SpaceBar. I should have read more clearly thier posts. I just kept seeing gas and corporate jets and it was flying right over everyone’s head it seemed.
Oh, and #14 was the “Controlling Legal Authority” I was talking about.
If Brown had voted NAY, would he have had to walk home?
Queen Bee Pelosi's plane is taking her and cohorts on a week long European tour. They left today (Friday 13). I believe Drudge had an item on it.
I’m suprised Barack (piss be upon him) didn’t command the senator to delay his mother’s funeral like The One did with his “Typical white person” granny.
The Air Force doesn't have any 767s and you need to do some reading
Email this to everyone in your address book:
During the past three or so weeks I’ve seen more abuse of power from the obama administration than I could ever imagine. Talk about the enemy of the state. There is a total disregard of the Constitution by obama and his progressive caucus comrades in the house. I don’t believe the so-called blue dogs are conservative about anything after seeing them vote in favor of the spending bill.
We have to mobilize and get conservatives elected in 2010.
NIXON IS SPINNING IN HIS GRAVE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Snopes also says that Obama is an American citizen. Yep. we should take snopes word for everything.
“IM SCREAMING BECAUSE THIS IS HUGE!”
“I just kept seeing gas and corporate jets and it was flying right over everyones head it seemed.”
It’s not unprecedented and it’s not illegal. Perhaps you can cite the specific Act or law that has been violated. All I see is a hypocritical White House and some possible bad PR but as you pointed out, I’m not particularly bright.
I am more angry at the 3 sell outs - without them this would not pass.
Time for them to spend those greenbacks while they're worth more than the paper they're printed on.
Party first, re-election second...country comes in around ten or eleven.
#1. Dear Leader and Community-Organizer-in-Chief-for-Life Barack Obama, list of offenses building rapidly
#2. James Buchanan, chose not to respond to the start of the Civil War
#3. Bill Clinton, perjury, abuse of power, and related offenses
#4. Richard Nixon, burglary and abuse of power
I expected the Affirmative Action "president" to make the top of the list of the worst leaders in our country's history, but not quite so quickly. Obama has now wasted more money in a few weeks than Bush did in his first 7 1/2 years. He has trampled the enumerated powers, the separation of powers, and the fundamentals under which the United States was formed. The scary part is that I think he's just getting warmed up - the big crimes against humanity are still in his future.
[We live in a fascist state.]
This is why we need a conservative party and the GOP is liberal lite.
And Nixon? He had the decency to resign and shut-up, so I think he's moving toward the middle of the pack.
“corporate jets as wasteful spending by corporations...”
Not to mention the great damage is costing to the environment, well, not a “biggie,” that’s the price we must paid for the Messiah.
Well yes, for them; “The end always justifies the means.”
And his name will live in infamy.
The problem here, as I see it, is that something that is “just known and understood” by anyone with a basic knowledge of our system of government’s separation of powers concept wouldn’t even consider spending money and offering executive branch resources to a legislator to facilitate a unique function of the legislator, especially when the President wants that legislator to perform his function in a way that furthers the President’s ambitions. It is not that it is wrong or a violation of the Constitution for the President to offer a ride to a congressman on a plane, say, if the President happens to be giving a speech in Legislator’s home town with him present and offers him an empty seat on the flight back to Washington. But when it is done to specifically further the Executive’s interest in a piece of pending legislation, and when the President wants that legislator’s vote, it clearly and obviously crosses the line.
When we are considering things like this, there can’t be a statute or regulation to cover everything that could happen.
We must depend upon the President (or any other governmental member of the other 2 branches) to know when a particular act, even if not a violation of a particular statute or regulation, is a violation of the separation of powers concept or any other Constitutional requirement.
The really sad thing is to me is that I doubt if they(the white house) had any idea or thought that to do this infringes on the Constitution. It would take a statute or reg before they would even consider their actions in light of the Constitution. We can’t even begin to think of what they may do in the future that isn’t directly controlled by a statute or regulation.
My prediction is that if they aren’t called on this they will continue to do whatever they think they can, regardless of the Constitution, in order to “save the country”.
When I read this I immediately thought that we were heading down the path of the Roman Senate calling upon Julius Ceaser to save the Republic and it doesn’t matter how it is done. And that very act thus ends the Republic as we once knew it.
Three things: 1) If the nation survives until 2010 2) IF we even have free elections in 2010. 3) What can be done before 2010?
We need to start by contacting the RNC Chairman’s office and ask how we can ensure that conservative candidates are available for primaries in our own districts. We will need names of candidates and organizatiuons supporting them. Then we need to contact them and get involved either by working full time, part-time or or whatever time we can.
Obama fancies himself emperor. The sycophantic media that snuck his no talent a$$ into office are the willing accomplices who would have eviscerated any republican for providing or receiving such a perk.
This is only the beginning. I pray for our country, the United States of America (not the brainless zombies who voted for this wretch — they can all go to hell).
Yes, the executive did just breach a rigorous interpretation of constitutional jurisprudence for personal advantage. He started small, he'll keep doing it until he gets out of hand. It won't shock me if he winds up impeached.
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