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Householders to be charged for each flush of toilet
news.com.au ^ | November 16, 2008 03:00pm??? | n/a

Posted on 02/16/2009 6:48:40 PM PST by Jet Jaguar

HOUSEHOLDERS would be charged for each flush under a radical new toilet tax designed to help beat the drought.

The scheme would replace the current system, which sees sewage charges based on a home's value - not its waste water output.

CSIRO Policy and Economic Research Unit member Jim McColl and Adelaide University Water Management Professor Mike Young plan to promote the move to state and federal politicians and experts across the country.

"It would encourage people to reduce their sewage output by taking shorter showers,recycling washing machine water or connecting rainwater tanks to internal plumbingto reduce their charges,''Professor Young said.

"Some people may go as far as not flushing their toilet as often because the less sewage you produce, the less sewage rate you pay.''

Professor Young said sewer pricing needed to be addressed as part of the response to the water crisis.

"People have been frightened to talk about sewage because it is yucky stuff, but it is critically important to address it, as part of the whole water cycle,'' he said.

"We are looking at reforming the way sewage is priced and this plan will drive interest in the different ways water is used throughout Australia.''

The reform would see the abolition of the property-based charge with one based on a pay-as-you-go rate and a small fixed annual fee to cover the cost of meter readings and pipeline maintenance, Professor Young said.

The pay-as-you-go rate would provide financial savings for those who reduce their waste water output.

Professor Young and Mr McColl will promote the plan nationally through their Droplet, a newsletter whose 6000 subscribers include state and federal politicians, water policy specialists and economists around the country.

Professor Young said a sewage pricing plan, like the one proposed, was already used in the US.

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TOPICS: Australia/New Zealand; Business/Economy; Constitution/Conservatism; Front Page News
KEYWORDS: envirowhackos; sanitation; water
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To: Jet Jaguar

Don’t these houses have water meters? I thought that was how you measured water usage.


21 posted on 02/16/2009 6:57:52 PM PST by Larry Lucido
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To: Jet Jaguar

Constipation to become the latest trend via lifestyle...


22 posted on 02/16/2009 6:58:59 PM PST by EGPWS (Trust in God, Question everyone else)
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To: Jet Jaguar

23 posted on 02/16/2009 7:00:21 PM PST by Dallas59 ("You know the one with the big ears? He might be yours, but he ain't my president.")
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To: tom h

I pay for water and waste. Nothing new here. Since most of Australia is arrid, this will encourage using rain and grey water to flush toilets.


24 posted on 02/16/2009 7:00:44 PM PST by ffusco (Maecilius Fuscus,Governor of Longovicium , Manchester, Englan d. 238-244 AD)
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To: Jet Jaguar

> My backyard would see a lot more watering.

Actually, a little human scent near the garden helps keep the bunnies, woodchucks, and especially the deer away. Backing it up with some birdshot from time to time helps to make that scent something for them to avoid.

It helps to leave the dead chuck or bunny nearby. It really does help discourage unwelcome visitors, while attracting carrion predators, which also discourages the little varmints.

So water yer lawn, mate. It’s good ecology in all respects.


25 posted on 02/16/2009 7:00:48 PM PST by Westbrook (Having more children does not divide your love, it multiplies it.)
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To: Jet Jaguar

I recall some years ago a Dem in Mass. proposed the same thing, but it was dropped just as soon as it hit the press. Who wants to bet it isn’t proposed again here in the States?
California, Oregon, Mass, or NY. They will tax the **** out of us.


26 posted on 02/16/2009 7:01:49 PM PST by theDentist (Qwerty ergo typo : I type, therefore I misspelll)
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To: Jet Jaguar

THis is a hoax. THey can’t measure your water that you flush down the drain.

And the day they do, people will be disconnecting sinks and tubs and showers from their sewer lines and discharging them into the back yard.


27 posted on 02/16/2009 7:03:30 PM PST by mamelukesabre
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To: Jet Jaguar
We had that in Connecticut for years. Peeps get charged a sewer fee based on their water bill. They get you coming and going.

Now, of course, it's unconstitutional because its "legally vague" since your water does not necessarily equal your sewage use (e.g- watering lawns). The only accurate way to measure would be to put a meter in your sewage line- which I understand some states do.

To all you Red-staters---welcome to my world. -:)

28 posted on 02/16/2009 7:09:14 PM PST by VinL (VinL---former username (wegotsarah.com))
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To: Jet Jaguar

This reminds me of the farmer that sprayed down a court house or city council building with chicken crap. I tried to find the video but couldn’t so if anyone knows a link please post it.


29 posted on 02/16/2009 7:11:11 PM PST by enduserindy (I hope he proves us wrong. Really, I do.)
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To: mamelukesabre
THis is a hoax. THey can’t measure your water that you flush down the drain.

Actually, it's quite easy. It'll either be done with an average estimate from water used, or a flow meter to the waste piping -which they own.
The water folks here can tell what my bill is by simply driving by and activating a radio receiver for my meter's transmitter. They don't even have to stop to read it.
30 posted on 02/16/2009 7:13:23 PM PST by RandallFlagg (Satisfaction was my sin)
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To: VinL

Here is Maryland we pay sewage rates based on our water usage. Doesn’t matter if the water is going into an in-ground pool and will never see the sewer line, you pay sewage rate on that water also.


31 posted on 02/16/2009 7:13:56 PM PST by Abby4116
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To: Jet Jaguar

Guess I start using the public rest rooms at city hall now.....aka the steps !


32 posted on 02/16/2009 7:14:22 PM PST by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But have a plan to kill everyone you meet)
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To: Squantos

Yep, daily trip.


33 posted on 02/16/2009 7:15:33 PM PST by Jet Jaguar (Atlas Shrugged Mode: ON)
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To: Abby4116

Forgot to add we also pay a “flush tax” which comes in on the tax bill. That is a set amount ($30 per year) to pay for new, upgraded sewage plants. I think (and there was a big fuss about this) it even applies to those with wells and cess pools.


34 posted on 02/16/2009 7:16:57 PM PST by Abby4116
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To: Jet Jaguar
That's one way to put a damper on the next beer party. I wonder what whiz-kid thought that one up?
35 posted on 02/16/2009 7:18:16 PM PST by .cnI redruM (Change is not always good, and Hope is not a plan.)
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To: Jet Jaguar
I'm not really seeing the cause for outrage unless this is just a sneaky way to get an across the board price increase in. Everywhere I have lived I have paid a metered rate for water and sewer. Where I grew up didn't have a sewer so we just dumped in the back yard (well, it was a septic tank, but same idea). The rate is about 0.6¢ per gallon for combined water and sewer.

If you water your lawn a lot it might make sense to get a water only meter, but then you have to pay for the meter and the quarterly connection fee of about $15. Woe to the person who connects the water only line into the house's water/sewer system.

36 posted on 02/16/2009 7:20:28 PM PST by KarlInOhio (On 9/11 Israel mourned with us while the Palestinians danced in the streets. Who should we support?)
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To: Jet Jaguar

Ol Stinky BO is a sure keeping his promises !

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o5t8GdxFYBU


37 posted on 02/16/2009 7:20:29 PM PST by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But have a plan to kill everyone you meet)
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To: Jet Jaguar
CSIRO Policy and Economic Research Unit member Jim McColl and Adelaide University Water Management Professor Mike Young plan to promote the move to state and federal politicians and experts across the country.

Hey, I'm for it! Only if I get to shove their heads in the bowl while I do it.

38 posted on 02/16/2009 7:21:30 PM PST by He Rides A White Horse (unite)
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To: Abby4116; cardinal4

The people in OZ will have to start scheduling their colonoscopies during rainy season, otherwise they’ll be paying out the wazoo.


39 posted on 02/16/2009 7:21:55 PM PST by Ax (Thanks to global warming,, there are no more polar bears in Panama.)
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To: Jet Jaguar

“The scheme would replace the current system,
which sees sewage charges based on a home’s value...”
- - -
WHAT THE HEY?
I have never had a water bill based on my home value.
My water (and sewage) bill is based on consumption.
The real problem where I live, is the antiquated system
of charging less per gallon for the more you use.
What I mean by this is that
the first 10,000 gallons is charged at one rate; while the
next and the next 10,000 gallons are charged at a reduced rate.
This is an old system that benefited business and industry at the
cost of residential users.


40 posted on 02/16/2009 7:27:07 PM PST by Repeal The 17th
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