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A CONCURRENT RESOLUTION (South Carolina)
South Carolina General Assembly ^ | 02/12/2009 | South Carolina General Assembly

Posted on 02/17/2009 7:00:47 AM PST by neal1960

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To: MrB
Increase the numbers on your W4.

I'm no tax lawyer by any means but from what I understand, there is a penalty if you owe Uncle Sam to much money at the end of the year....

61 posted on 02/17/2009 9:03:41 AM PST by Getsmart64
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To: ChinaThreat
Ok, I’m going to Charleston. Load the cannon shot. Lets fire on Ft. Sumter again!

Those poor park rangers :)

62 posted on 02/17/2009 9:04:37 AM PST by mainepatsfan
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To: ChinaThreat

May you remember this also:

“Each State, in ratifying the Constitution, is considered as a sovereign body, independent of all others, and only to be bound by its own voluntary act. In this relation, then, the new Constitution will, if established, be a FEDERAL, and not a NATIONAL constitution.”
—James Madison, Federalist No. 39


63 posted on 02/17/2009 9:04:54 AM PST by PeaRidge
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To: cyberaxe
"The Institute will be heard from today."

This one served our boys well at New Market, and it has been known to fly from my porch every April 15th. Advance the Colors!:
Thus Always to Tyrants
64 posted on 02/17/2009 9:08:11 AM PST by PowderMonkey (Will Work for Ammo)
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To: Getsmart64
there is a penalty if you owe Uncle Sam to much money at the end of the year....

Yes, there is. And I'm not sure what "too much" is,
but if you got a refund last year, you can pretty easily calculate a "safe" number that will put you near even.

65 posted on 02/17/2009 9:13:49 AM PST by MrB (The 0bamanation: Marxism, Infanticide, Appeasement, Depression, Thuggery, and Censorship)
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To: Mojave

Do you know nothing about Gov. Mark Sanford? He has been the most vocal critic of the nonstimulus bill.


66 posted on 02/17/2009 9:16:35 AM PST by conservativeinferno (My SUV is the urban squirrel's worst predator.)
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To: Zuben Elgenubi

“Who announced this? Jefferson Davis?”

If he knew the future, Abe Lincoln would have announced it happily.


67 posted on 02/17/2009 9:22:30 AM PST by VanDeKoik (Just another day for you and me in Obama paradise...)
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To: OldNavyVet

But if a state did pull out, would Obama even try to stop them? Would the military actually fire on them?

Something tell me it wouldn’t happen.


68 posted on 02/17/2009 9:24:06 AM PST by VanDeKoik (Just another day for you and me in Obama paradise...)
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To: Jvette
The ultimate issue affecting State sovereignty is the 14th, but they'll never get there without reconstructing the Senate.
69 posted on 02/17/2009 9:31:48 AM PST by Carry_Okie (The fouth estate is the fifth column.)
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To: Hoodat
You seemed to have forgotten this part:

The right of property in slaves was recognized by giving to free persons distinct political rights, by giving them the right to represent, and burthening them with direct taxes for three�fifths of their slaves; by authorizing the importation of slaves for twenty years, and by stipulating for the rendition of fugitives from labor.

We affirm that these ends, for which this Government was instituted, have been defeated, and the government itself has been made destructive of them by the action of the non�slaveholding states. Those states have assumed the right of deciding upon the propriety of our domestic institutions; and have denied the rights of property established in fifteen of the states and recognized by the constitution; they have denounced as sinful the institution of slavery; they have permitted the open establishment among them of societies, whose avowed object is to disturb the peace and to eloign the property of the citizens of other states. They have encouraged and assisted thousands of our slaves to leave their homes, and those who remain have been incited by emissaries, books and pictures to servile insurrection. But of course, it wasn't about slavery.

70 posted on 02/17/2009 9:33:09 AM PST by snarky conservative
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To: neal1960

I have been reading more and more about this stuff going on. How long has it been happening that the states are declaring sovereignty?


71 posted on 02/17/2009 9:33:50 AM PST by Munz (Infiltrate Interrogate Eradicate NEXT!)
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To: Jvette
Your comment made me think of something that I had never considered before:

Fair tax, flat tax, income tax, whatever...doesn't matter how the number is arrived at. But what if we individuals and businesses paid our taxes ONLY to the state govt, who in turn paid a state's share tax to the Feds? Would give us more control and would bring a free market approach to taxes inasmuch that those with lower tax rates would see increases in business and population. Would also allow one state to use a flat tax and another to use the Fair tax, etc. At first glance, I'm not seeing a downside here...

72 posted on 02/17/2009 9:39:27 AM PST by Axeslinger (Where has my country gone?)
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To: Lucky9teen

Thanks for this URL.


73 posted on 02/17/2009 9:40:06 AM PST by matthew fuller (God bless the United Socialist States of America.)
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To: snarky conservative
You seemed to have forgotten this part:

What in the heck are you talking about? It's not about why a state wants to secede. It's about whether they have the right to secede.

Do you know of any law which prohibits a state from leaving the Union?

74 posted on 02/17/2009 9:47:51 AM PST by Hoodat (For the weapons of our warfare are mighty in God for pulling down strongholds.)
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To: Axeslinger

I don’t know alot about the economy. What I do know is that the federal government takes from the states and then the states must whore themselves to get some of it back.

If it was done the way the founders intended, then states that want government supplemented health care could have it, states that want a larger welfare state could have it. My point is that across this country, funds are used to support programs in states that are not beneficial to all states. Money must then be taken from each state to support the growing dependency on federal hand outs.

People would then have the opportunity to determine if they are happy with the way their state spends its money. Or they could move to a state that spends it the way they want. Then all of these liberal states could take in the socialists and leave the federalist states alone.

Your idea about each state paying a share to the feds raises a question. How was it done before the 16th Amendment? I am ashamed to admit I don’t know.


75 posted on 02/17/2009 9:50:00 AM PST by Jvette
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To: Munz
I have been reading about it for a few weeks now. It seems to have picked up steam since Jan. Th.
76 posted on 02/17/2009 9:52:34 AM PST by neal1960 (This space for rent.)
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To: neal1960

Jan. 20th.


77 posted on 02/17/2009 9:53:01 AM PST by neal1960 (This space for rent.)
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To: anniegetyourgun

Under current law, you can indeed file for an extension, but said extension does not mean you can delay paying what the tax codes says you owe. The extension is granted to allow you to file all of the paper work at a later date. You have to pay what you owe when you file for the extension. Gotcha!


78 posted on 02/17/2009 10:04:23 AM PST by HattonFarmer (Fear the government that fears your gun.)
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To: OldTCS

It remains to be seen whether we yet in fact have sovereign states, or a federated republic. I await being told that one or more state legislatures have officially adopted one of these fine sounding resolutions, and after that, the practical consequences of such act.


79 posted on 02/17/2009 10:09:11 AM PST by Elsiejay
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To: Hoodat
We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.

Notice, it's the people that define the authority of the United States of America - Not the States. The only way the US can be dissolved (and that's what you traitors want to happen) is through the will of the people. If the States had the power to dissolve the Union, they would have given the states that power. But of course, you neo-confederates don't really care about the Constitution.

Talking about secession is just as stupid when the Libtards talk about moving to France or Canada.

Finally it should be noted, that if South Carolina tried to make it on it's own it would be bankrupt in about a year.

80 posted on 02/17/2009 10:17:12 AM PST by snarky conservative
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