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Is it selfish to have more than two children? [Greenie weenie nit wit alert.......]
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Posted on 02/18/2009 8:18:28 AM PST by Sub-Driver

Is it selfish to have more than two children?

By Margaret Ryan BBC News Is having more than two children selfish? The future of the planet rarely plays a part when planning a family, but that's got to change, say environmental campaigners.

Parents who have more than two children are "irresponsible" for placing an intolerable burden on resources and increasing damage to eco-systems, says a leading green campaigner.

Curbing population growth through contraception must play a role in fighting global warming, argues Jonathon Porritt.

This week, the Optimum Population Trust (OPT), of which Mr Porrit is a patron, launched its "Stop at Two" online pledge to encourage couples to limit their family's size.

(Excerpt) Read more at news.bbc.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: envirowhackos; nannystate
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for crying out loud...........
1 posted on 02/18/2009 8:18:28 AM PST by Sub-Driver
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To: Sub-Driver
I am very selfish, I have 5 children:)
2 posted on 02/18/2009 8:19:42 AM PST by TornadoAlley3 (Obama is everything Oklahoma is not.)
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To: Sub-Driver

Guilty!!! Father of six.


3 posted on 02/18/2009 8:20:05 AM PST by ConorMacNessa (HM/2 USN, 3/5 Marines, RVN 1969. St. Michael the Archangel defend us in battle!)
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To: Sub-Driver

No, it is selfish to be a liberal.


4 posted on 02/18/2009 8:20:10 AM PST by svcw (This maybe my last transmission - God have mercy on us.)
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To: svcw

I thought liberals were “pro-choice?”


5 posted on 02/18/2009 8:20:42 AM PST by Boiling Pots (The Gov't trying to fix the economy is like the Three Stooges trying to fix your plumbing)
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To: Sub-Driver

Just cut it off Jonathon. We’ll feel better. You’ll feel better.


6 posted on 02/18/2009 8:20:57 AM PST by muawiyah
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To: Sub-Driver

I guess they would look down their noses at my husband and I with out 5 kids and 11 grandkids and counting—LOL!


7 posted on 02/18/2009 8:21:04 AM PST by basil ( It's time to eliminate all "Gun Free Zones")
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To: Sub-Driver

Is it selfish to try to tell other people what to do?


8 posted on 02/18/2009 8:21:15 AM PST by A_Former_Democrat
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To: TornadoAlley3

Guilty here too! Father of 4.


9 posted on 02/18/2009 8:22:28 AM PST by icwhatudo
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To: Sub-Driver

This is a prime example of why London now looks like Londonistan.


10 posted on 02/18/2009 8:22:31 AM PST by tgusa (Gun control: deep breath, sight alignment, squeeze the trigger ....)
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To: Sub-Driver

Liberalism is an insidiously evil mental disease with no known cure....


11 posted on 02/18/2009 8:24:04 AM PST by lgjhn23
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To: Sub-Driver
Guilty. Come get my kids, after you get my guns, from my cold dead hands.

And then you'd have to get my guns from my kids' cold dead hands (they all know how to shoot).

12 posted on 02/18/2009 8:24:09 AM PST by DTogo (Time to bring back the Sons of Liberty.)
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To: Boiling Pots

hahahahah, (wiping tear from eye) Thanks I need a good laugh this morning.


13 posted on 02/18/2009 8:24:24 AM PST by svcw (This maybe my last transmission - God have mercy on us.)
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To: Sub-Driver

Idiot liberals are unaware that the replacement rate to maintain a population without any increase is more than two children per couple.

Liberals tend to be mathematically illiterate.


14 posted on 02/18/2009 8:24:35 AM PST by MrEdd (Heck? Geewhiz Cripes, thats the place where people who don't believe in Gosh think they aint going.)
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To: ConorMacNessa

Proud mother of seven here.


15 posted on 02/18/2009 8:25:14 AM PST by sfimom (I am John Galt. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4nmERuCXTyw)
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To: Sub-Driver

I thought I was considered selfish because I have none.


16 posted on 02/18/2009 8:27:55 AM PST by Roccus (I am a RINO...............I am a Conservative.)
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To: Sub-Driver

Unfortunatly those in high income countries across the world are faced with declining birth rates while the poor in other countries are still rapidly increasing their numbers Eventually populations with large numbers of young people will start pushing into the richer countries and we won’t have the numbers to stop them.

Just look at Russia, if it isn’t happening already I’m sure the chinese will begin to settle north of their border within twenty years. And Russia will be stretched too thin to put up much of a fight.

If the west and the east want to surive all of us need to start having babies and not bow to this pc crap. I notice the liberals don’t try to limit the exploding populations in Africa and the middle east. They just pick easy targets like us.


17 posted on 02/18/2009 8:28:43 AM PST by utherdoul
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To: MrEdd

Liberals reject reality.


18 posted on 02/18/2009 8:28:48 AM PST by hoosierham (Waddaya mean Freedom isn't free ?;will you take a credit card?)
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To: Sub-Driver

It’s not selfish to have children.

It is selfish to raise your children to be liberals.


19 posted on 02/18/2009 8:28:49 AM PST by keats5
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To: Sub-Driver

Not nearly as selfish as having more liberals.


20 posted on 02/18/2009 8:28:50 AM PST by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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To: Sub-Driver

It’s very selfish for Mr. Porrit to continue living, when he’s obviously a waste of scarce resources.


21 posted on 02/18/2009 8:30:13 AM PST by Tax-chick ("Global leadership means never having to say you're sorry." ~IBD)
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To: Sub-Driver

What a dilemma for these nitwit socialists. If everyone has fewer children in order to save the planet, there won’t be enough taxpayers to pick up all the tax burden to cover all the pensioners and folks on the dole. All I can say is Hahahahaha...


22 posted on 02/18/2009 8:30:38 AM PST by gate2wire
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To: Sub-Driver

None of Government’s GD business.


23 posted on 02/18/2009 8:30:52 AM PST by Unam Sanctam
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To: Sub-Driver

I LOVE to see/hear about big families! (We only have 1 child between us, my husband and I for lots of different reasons....therefore, we want OTHERS to have what we could not.)


24 posted on 02/18/2009 8:30:54 AM PST by goodnesswins (Conservative and fighting for freedom and liberty....whether you like it or not.)
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To: Sub-Driver

The only time it is selfish is when you expect others to pay for them somewhere along the way.


25 posted on 02/18/2009 8:31:17 AM PST by Melinda
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To: Sub-Driver

Some married couple who choose to have zero children are called “selfish.”


26 posted on 02/18/2009 8:31:20 AM PST by Atlas Sneezed
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To: Sub-Driver

Is it selfish to be a misinformed moron who can’t think for yourself?


27 posted on 02/18/2009 8:31:37 AM PST by ronnyquest ("Those who hammer their guns into plows will plow for those who do not." -- Thomas Jefferson)
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To: Sub-Driver

That’s not the question. The question is whether or
not it is wrong to have more than two liberal crackpot journalists.


28 posted on 02/18/2009 8:31:57 AM PST by righttackle44 (Forgiveness is not my strong suit, but I'm trying . . .)
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To: Sub-Driver

Just think if wack-o people like this don’t reproduce, we should be rid of them in a couple of generations.
Just don’t let them indoctrinate your kids.


29 posted on 02/18/2009 8:32:54 AM PST by antceecee (Bless us Father.. have mercy on us and protect us from evil.)
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To: Roccus

So in the name of saving the planet we should not continue to populate it with more than two children? What about survival of the species? Well, I guess we’ll be gone a species but at least the planet will survive.


30 posted on 02/18/2009 8:32:59 AM PST by Hythloday
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To: Sub-Driver

Guilty as charged....Father of 3


31 posted on 02/18/2009 8:33:43 AM PST by joe fonebone (When you ask God for help, sometimes he sends the Marines.)
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To: Sub-Driver
Curbing population growth through contraception must play a role in fighting global warming, argues Jonathon Porritt.
And as soon as the Green Party nutjobs get to power, “contraception” will be quickly replaced by “forced sterilization.” Hey, it worked for the Nazis! And if it’s necessary to save the planet, who is going to object?
32 posted on 02/18/2009 8:36:50 AM PST by cartan
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To: Sub-Driver
The USA — and Europe, but I don't care about Europe — needs married couples of all races who are law-abiding and financially solvent — whether working class or rich — to have as many children as they believe they can handle. The criminal and/or addicted-to-welfare underclass in the USA is large and growing, and will explode now that the modest welfare reforms of the nineties are being rolled back. As a citizen, I say, “Hats off” to married people who have large families.
33 posted on 02/18/2009 8:38:33 AM PST by utahagen
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To: Sub-Driver

I think it’s selfish to have fewer than 3!


34 posted on 02/18/2009 8:39:13 AM PST by brytlea (You can fool enough of the people enough of the time.)
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To: Sub-Driver
Anyone who actually asks the question should have none!
35 posted on 02/18/2009 8:39:16 AM PST by Niteranger68 (Make Obama voters suffer!)
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To: TornadoAlley3
Can someone tell this Greenie Weenie to get his hands of our reproductive choices?

The dirty secret is that having one or lots of children can be a JOY, a blast, an adventure, a boon for others when you raise them right as best you can.

Yes, it's hard work, but so is riding in a Greenpeace boat trying to stop whaling...who's to judge? (sarcasm)

If you have children, you might have something to fight for...oh, can't have that. Any thinking about the future might cause sheeple to question their handlers.

36 posted on 02/18/2009 8:40:39 AM PST by elk ((A Member of the Silent 58)TM)
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To: ConorMacNessa

Guilty here as well. Six children.


37 posted on 02/18/2009 8:41:19 AM PST by Carpe Cerevisi
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To: Sub-Driver
The very surest population control program? Progress.

As nations move from agricultural societies to predominantly manufacturing and service economies, birthrate invariably goes down. If liberals only understood that, they'd get the hell out of our way in trying to export our civilization to the rest of the planet.

38 posted on 02/18/2009 8:42:06 AM PST by hunter112 (SHRUG - Stop Hussein's Radical Utopian Gameplan!)
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To: Beelzebubba; All

Or people who married to a spouse that seems kinda nervous or keep putting it off to have children is selfish (in my book)..


39 posted on 02/18/2009 8:43:37 AM PST by KevinDavis (No one should question our "Dear Leader"!)
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To: Sub-Driver
Can someone tell me why this jackass is having a story written about him and his "ideas"? I think this story sums up, more than any other reason, is what is wrong with the news today.

This ass-clown has no point to his story, and is hopefully practicing what he preaches. If he never pro-creates we can all be that much happier that he is not spreading his idiocy...

40 posted on 02/18/2009 8:44:23 AM PST by Fedupwithit (This is it? This has where "progress" has taken us?)
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To: Sub-Driver

No, but it’s the definition of selfishness to want to have the planet to yourself.


41 posted on 02/18/2009 8:47:13 AM PST by LibWhacker
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To: Sub-Driver

It is only ok if it is Muslim children.


42 posted on 02/18/2009 8:49:24 AM PST by Retired Greyhound
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To: Boiling Pots

Of course they are as long as you choose what they want you to!


43 posted on 02/18/2009 8:50:23 AM PST by christianhomeschoolmommaof3 (I homeschool because I have seen the village and I dont want it raising my children.)
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To: Tax-chick

I’d like to introduce you to the authors ... your very existence would make their heads explode.


44 posted on 02/18/2009 8:51:53 AM PST by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: Sub-Driver

from the comments “I have three children. I feel it is my duty to attempt to repopulate the World with intelligent individuals in an attempt to offset Mr Porritt’s stupidity. Idiocy-offsetting, kind of like carbon offsetting, just a little more immediate. Kirstine Berry, Bracknell”

LOL now that is funny!


45 posted on 02/18/2009 8:54:32 AM PST by christianhomeschoolmommaof3 (I homeschool because I have seen the village and I dont want it raising my children.)
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To: ArrogantBustard

I love being a societal crisis. It’s so much more fulfilling than just doing laundry and selling Girl Scout cookies and drinking cheap wine.

Mr. Porrit, the useless eater, has been discussed here before, I think. Why he thinks he’s going to last when Britain is ruled by Shari’a is beyond me.


46 posted on 02/18/2009 8:55:43 AM PST by Tax-chick ("Global leadership means never having to say you're sorry." ~IBD)
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To: gate2wire

NAH, just roll out the “Children of Men” solution.


47 posted on 02/18/2009 8:56:46 AM PST by tbw2 (Freeper sci-fi - "Humanity's Edge" - on amazon.com)
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To: tbw2

What’s that?


48 posted on 02/18/2009 8:58:36 AM PST by gate2wire
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To: Sub-Driver

Not in and of itself. Apropos the lovely Miss Suleman, her problem is less that she’s selfish and more that she’s crazier than an outhouse mouse.


49 posted on 02/18/2009 8:59:12 AM PST by RichInOC (No! BAD Rich! (What'd I say?))
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To: Sub-Driver
Is it selfish to have more than two children? [Greenie weenie nit wit alert.......]

Is it selfish to have less than two children? Are those parents of zero or one the spoiled yuppie types who want to save their income (or more likely their available credit) for European vacations with their only child or as childless perpetual teens?

I know my question is as dumb as theirs. Really, what's peculiar is that so many people want to make those decisions for others. I am proud of my children, all of them. I am almost as thrilled that some of the most pathetic liberals are opting out of the gene pool. I assume that people will make good decisions based on their needs and desires, and I would never, ever criticize the childbearing choices of someone who had a large family that they supported on their own.

50 posted on 02/18/2009 9:13:03 AM PST by MathDoc (If there ever was a time that Obama looked like an amateur, it's right now.)
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