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What Is Science?
AiG ^ | Roger Patterson

Posted on 02/19/2009 9:24:24 AM PST by GodGunsGuts

What Is Science?

"Even if all the data point to an intelligent designer, such an hypothesis is excluded from science because it is not naturalistic."

—Dr. Scott Todd, Kansas State University, Nature 401(6752):423, Sept. 30, 1999

What You Will Learn

Many people do not realize that science was actually developed in Christian Europe by men who assumed that God created an orderly universe. If the universe is a product of random chance or a group of gods that interfere in the universe, there is really no reason to expect order in nature. Many of the founders of the principle scientific fields, such as Bacon, Galileo, Kepler, and Newton, were believers in a recently created earth. The idea that science cannot accept a creationist perspective is a denial of scientific history...

(Excerpt) Read more at answersingenesis.org ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: creation; evolution; intelligentdesign; science
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To: TinCan

The Adam and Eve question? I did. I’m getting bored, though—got any more?


201 posted on 02/19/2009 9:03:40 PM PST by Buck W. (The President of the United States IS named Schickelgruber...)
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To: tpanther
Things need evidence to rise above a hypothesis. None of those things you mentioned are a central part of science or a productive part of science.

Do you think somehow that the sciences of geology or biology or chemistry or physics are somehow changed or discredited because some theoretical physicist published some musings about the “multi-verse”?

If it is a productive hypothesis it will be embraced and expounded upon.

If it is not productive they will wonder “what was he smoking”.

That is how science works. We have a mechanism for sorting out the productive ideas from the useless ones.

202 posted on 02/19/2009 9:06:07 PM PST by allmendream ("Wealth is EARNED not distributed, so how could it be redistributed?")
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To: Rhino371; metmom; Jim Robinson
Public schools can’t teach your religion it is illegal. And you don’t want them to since then school would have to present both sides, and trust me you don’t want them proving the bible is full of lies in school. Take your kid to church if you want them to learn your mythology.

Rhino, it appears you've stumbled onto the wrong website...do yourself a favor and learn up on what FR is all about, before you make yourself look even more foolish than you already have! Not that this is remotely possible.

203 posted on 02/19/2009 9:08:25 PM PST by tpanther (The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing---Edmund Burke)
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To: ColdWater

Do you need a citation the sky is blue also?


204 posted on 02/19/2009 9:08:58 PM PST by tpanther (The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing---Edmund Burke)
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To: Buck W.
No you didn't you asked another question. I also asked what is your definition of a Christian
205 posted on 02/19/2009 9:09:27 PM PST by TinCan
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To: tpanther
Do you need a citation the sky is blue also?

No. But when someone says the sky is red I ask for a citation.

206 posted on 02/19/2009 9:10:02 PM PST by ColdWater
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To: tpanther

[[Do you need a citation the sky is blue also?]]

A peer reviewed one preferably, if it’s not ‘peer reviewed’ it’s not ‘science’


207 posted on 02/19/2009 9:10:31 PM PST by CottShop (Scientific belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge)
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To: tpanther; Rhino371
Rhino, it appears you've stumbled onto the wrong website...do yourself a favor and learn up on what FR is all about, before you make yourself look even more foolish than you already have! Not that this is remotely possible.

I see that you do not want both sides presented.

208 posted on 02/19/2009 9:11:36 PM PST by ColdWater
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To: tpanther

I do wonder at some of the handles and always supposed there was some sort of message there. Mine I thought was good advice I learned early in life. The tagline I learned a bit later, but both work for me.


209 posted on 02/19/2009 9:11:40 PM PST by count-your-change (You don't have be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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To: metmom
Thank you so much for sharing your insights!


211 posted on 02/19/2009 9:13:18 PM PST by Alamo-Girl
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To: tpanther

Not only have I never called for removal of the religious courses, I have never proposed that they should teach both sides of the question.


212 posted on 02/19/2009 9:13:57 PM PST by ColdWater
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To: TinCan

So you really don’t know the difference between lie and allegory?

As for the other question, a Christian is one who follows the teachings of Jesus Christ, and tries not to be annoying to bystanders by wearing his faith out on his sleeve. I am a Christian.


213 posted on 02/19/2009 9:14:21 PM PST by Buck W. (The President of the United States IS named Schickelgruber...)
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To: ColdWater

Let’s see, you haven’t seen a lawsuit that’s forced creation from public schools...

then do a google...I suggest:

creation, lawsuit, public schools.

How has the earth been determined to not be at the center of the universe?


214 posted on 02/19/2009 9:17:31 PM PST by tpanther (The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing---Edmund Burke)
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To: Buck W.

I’m asking a question that you asserted was conclusively proven by your own assertion.


215 posted on 02/19/2009 9:18:43 PM PST by tpanther (The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing---Edmund Burke)
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To: ColdWater

[[I see that you do not want both sides presented. ]]

Both sides are fien as long as the other side isn’t rife with assinine bleeting points from the far left that have NO basis in reality


216 posted on 02/19/2009 9:19:41 PM PST by CottShop (Scientific belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge)
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To: ColdWater

How do you think that creation was forced out of the schools to begin with? If it wasn’t direct lawsuits, it was the threat of them. Lawsuits are the evoatheists knee jerk reaction to anything that hints of intelligence in the classroom.

Do you know of schools where creation is taught and it is not illegal to teach it? Where’s that?

http://www.au.org/site/News2?abbr=pr&page=NewsArticle&id=5178

http://www.thefreelibrary.com/Federal+court+clears+way+for+Pa.+lawsuit+against+%27intelligent+design%27-a0138443449

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edwards_v._Aguillard

http://archives.cnn.com/2002/EDUCATION/09/26/creationism.evolution/


217 posted on 02/19/2009 9:20:30 PM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: CottShop
Both sides are fien as long as the other side isn’t rife with assinine bleeting points from the far left that have NO basis in reality

What about assinine bleeting points from the far right taht have NO basis in reality?

218 posted on 02/19/2009 9:20:43 PM PST by ColdWater
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To: tpanther
Then my work here is done! I'll give you a day or so, you can think up a few more red herring questions, and perhaps we'll play again.

There are quite a few of the belligerently uninformed here!

219 posted on 02/19/2009 9:21:24 PM PST by Buck W. (The President of the United States IS named Schickelgruber...)
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To: metmom
Do you know of schools where creation is taught and it is not illegal to teach it? Where’s that?

I've already posted one that requires it.

220 posted on 02/19/2009 9:21:32 PM PST by ColdWater
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